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2002-05-16 Thread linda bezdek
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I had my first experience with a horse foundering this year.  She has been
on pasture all year --here in rainy Roseburg Oregon.  Soo I thought no
problem. I put her out on a different pasture loaded with clover and in a
week or less she looked like a beached whale.  I caught it before it was a
serious problem  but she did walk  like her shoes were to tight for a few
days. She is now on the horsy equivalent of slim fast ---very dry hay. 






Re: Founder rare in Fjords?

2002-05-16 Thread Jean Ernest
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Look through the archives:  There are 177 matches for the word "founder" 
 
http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/
"user name" is "fjordhorse", password is "fjords_rule"

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, with light rain showers and 60 F degrees.


> I am wondering what you various 
>people have experienced. Are Fjords "immune" or 
>"resistant to" founder? I am wondering.
>   Cheers,
>   Alex
>
>
>

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Saddle update

2002-05-16 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
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Hi all,

thought I'd let you know how things went with the wide Ascot dressage saddle
I got on ebay. Not too well, unfortunately. The saddle is indeed wide, and
the width was perfect for Quinn, who has a very round back.

However, he also has a short back, and the seat of this saddle was just too
long for him. It doesn't go behind the ribcage but it is bridging his back a
little. Nothing extreme, but there was clearly less contact in the middle.
Sigh...guess the tree width isn't everything, I was so happy to find a
"U-shaped" rather than "V-shaped" saddle. It is too big for me, too (18")
but I could have lived with that.

(After riding bareback for a long time it felt really strange trying to sit
in the saddle. Like I was miles above the horse.)

Well, we'll try it on Tinn and then maybe on Brigid's fjords, that are
bigger, and hopefully we'll find a use for it. Or if not, maybe  someone
from the list has a big, wide fjord it might fit?

With reflocking of the panels it might actually fit almost well, the
flocking is very "flat" as it is now. Could be "filled more" in the middle.
But I guess that would be spending a lot of money on a cheap saddle that
will never fit perfectly so I won't go there.

I also got a measurement kit from Thorowgood, it has a flexible gauge and
comes with illustrated instructions on how to measure tree width and wither
height. So far Quinn seems perfect for an "extra wide, low wither", so maybe
I'll give it a try... But this time I'll be careful to get the smallest seat
size, it comes in 17 and 17.5 inches and I meant to get the 17.5 but now I
think I will choose the 17" instead. Less length of saddle to match to the
horse's back, hopefully it still has room for my butt;-).

Happy fjording everyone!

Dagrun
San Jose, Ca






RE: Founder rare in Fjords?

2002-05-16 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Alex,

I have the same experience from Norway - to date I haven't known a fjord
that foundered (but some other ponies, yes) - even though I am sure it
happens sometimes. But from what I read here on the list it is a real
problem here in the US.

Dagrun,
San Jose, CA






Founder rare in Fjords?

2002-05-16 Thread FJORDFUN
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   This is from Fjordfun (Alex Wind) in VA
   Every day I pray that my tubby Fjords stay
healthy. The gelding is with another gelding
on four acres. The mare is alone on one acre.
The pasture is not lush; has not been seeded 
in years, just cut for hay once a year. They 
seem to be fine. I feed them about four heaping
cooking spoons (for each animal) of beet pulp 
moistened with hot water, mixed with sweet feed, 
clovite and minerals. That;s basically so I get to 
look at least once a day to check for cuts, apply
fly spray etc.
   Of all the hundreds of Fjords I have looked at
in the ten years I have been researching the breed,
I have only seen one mare that had been foundered.
In the past I have had Welsh ponies that seemed to 
founder easily, despite efforts to restrict their access
to lush grasses. I am wondering what you various 
people have experienced. Are Fjords "immune" or 
"resistant to" founder? I am wondering.
   Cheers,
   Alex






Re: little skin tabs

2002-05-16 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 5/16/02 12:01:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> At
> first I thought, oh no, she has a bunch of ticks! But on looking closer I
> realize it is warts, or skin tabs. They are not crusty or scablike. They
> are about 1 inch - 2 inch apart and there are about 15 of them.
> Any idea what they could be? What should be done about them? They
> aren't bothersome but I am assuming they will grow? She is so young and
> blemish free to this point!
> I thought I'd ask here before I call the vet.
> 

Beats me.  I'd call the vet.  It could be just about anything.  My mind 
immediately popped to sarcoids.  Which maybe they are, maybe they aren't.  
Warts.  Sounds possible.  Sounds like just another little cosmetic worry, but 
probably very treatable.

Pamela
Absolutely no help at all. :/






little skin tabs

2002-05-16 Thread brass-ring-farm
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I have a question about my little yearling filly. I have just
noticed little raised areas on her shoulder and neck in front of the
shoulder, on her newly shed out coat it looked like, well, not smooth. At
first I thought, oh no, she has a bunch of ticks! But on looking closer I
realize it is warts, or skin tabs. They are not crusty or scablike. They
are about 1 inch - 2 inch apart and there are about 15 of them.
Any idea what they could be? What should be done about them? They
aren't bothersome but I am assuming they will grow? She is so young and
blemish free to this point!
I thought I'd ask here before I call the vet.
Thanks for any advice.
Valerie
Columbia, CT






White dun pics on the web

2002-05-16 Thread Sessoms412
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http://www.hest.no/news/?func=archive&id=571






Re: FW: New foal, splints/tetracycline FOAL SIZE QUESTIONS

2002-05-16 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- "Skeels, Mark A (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 > I saw 1 fjord about 8 years ago that was 41 inches
> when born, at Nancy's
> Fjord's in Bigfork Mt., but that was rare I think.
> Does anyone have any
> averages or sizes their foals were that had this
> problem?


We also had a colt born with contracted tendons.  He
was a large foal - stood 41 inches WITH the bowed
legs!  He was a big guy all 'round, making the birth a
tough one as his chest was so deep that it barely fit
through the birth canal.  This one needed gentle help
to be born.  His legs straightened out just fine - and
he is STILL a big boy(I think he matured at around
15.2 and 1400 lbs.)  His nickname is "Largie" - very
appropriate.  He achieved this size even though he was
used as a stallion until he was around 7, then gelded.
 I wonder how big he would have grown had he been
gelded younger?

We also had another filly born from this same
mare/stallion cross that had slightly contracted
tendons in front.  She was shorter - around 39" - but
was also very large boned and had a longer leg-to-body
ratio than usual. Possibly those longer legs didn't
have enough room. There also was some discussion at
the time that over supplementation of the mare during
gestation might be the cause of the contracted
tendons.  We switched our supplements and stopped
feeding "mare and foal" ration in favor of regular
"COB" and had no more contracted tendons among our
other foals.  We always fed local grass hay - no
alfalfa ever.  Apparently it wasn't the protein that
was a problem, but something else in the 'fancier'
supplements/grain mixes.  I don't recall just what the
vet said could be the problem, but I do recall that
changing the supplement/grain program seemed to solve
the problem.

Mary
 

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Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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foal legs

2002-05-16 Thread Snowy Mtn.
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I have been impressed by the line of thoughts and experiences here. Karens
treatment with massage sounded great. Of course I wonder if it would work
with the knock kneed foal. I know my aunt also helped my cousin overcome
being club footed with massage. It is such a gentle way. Good Luck
Lauren






Re:Fløtron

2002-05-16 Thread Brian Thompson
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Congratulations to Fløtron (and of course to Julie, his proud owner) for
having the top three year old offspring in the Norway Stallion show, and the
top three year old mare also!!!  I knew that he was something special and am
glad to see that he passes it on.  I whispered in Alrune's ear that he has a
famous half brother and half sister and he gave me a look that said he
wasn't the least bit surprised:)

Brian Thompson, in rainy Iowa






Re: OTHER leg problems in foals

2002-05-16 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 5/16/02 6:25:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> Our baby ~ Cynric, not yet a week old, was born "Knock Knee'd", right leg 
> shoots out to the side, quite a bit.  I was HOPING with a little exercise 
> it 
> would come back under himbut to no avail.  Vet was out yesterday to 
> gelded my yearling, and looked at him...said to give him another week, but 
> because there hadn't been any real improvement...it wasn't looking good.  
> Surgery was probably in his future.   

My little one is a little knock kneed.  About the same age as your little one 
(3 days old).  The vet said they should come around, not to rush it.  It 
could be a couple of weeks, or even a little longer.  Then he didn't mention 
surgery, but splints.   So see what nature does your your little boy.  It may 
work out for the best.  But if intervention IS needed,  I think the prognosis 
is good.  But your pocket book will be a little bit lighter.

Pamela






OTHER leg problems in foals

2002-05-16 Thread HapDayBMF
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Hi list,
I almost wish a contracted tendon is what I'm facing right now  seems 
like a pretty easy fix, but I'm not.
Our baby ~ Cynric, not yet a week old, was born "Knock Knee'd", right leg 
shoots out to the side, quite a bit.  I was HOPING with a little exercise it 
would come back under himbut to no avail.  Vet was out yesterday to 
gelded my yearling, and looked at him...said to give him another week, but 
because there hadn't been any real improvement...it wasn't looking good.  
Surgery was probably in his future.   We didn't discuss logistics at this 
point...just wanted me to be prepairedhe'll come back in a week and look 
at him again  I was wondering if anyone else has faced this...?  Dr. 
Steve, your imput? :)
He is the most HANDSOME foal I have seen in yearsand it just saddens my 
heart to have him less then perfect.
It sure hasn't held him up anyhe's outside now running laps around 
momflying lead changes and everything :):):)  God he's CUTE !!!  :)
Ok...just thought I'd bring this up...while we're discussing leg problems in 
foals.
Thanks,
Aimee