Re: feed for foals

2002-08-05 Thread FjordAmy
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> What do people feed for the foals? Just pasture, some hay? Any grain?
> 

We do just "Mom" & pasture till weaning time, then depending on the foal and 
how much they stress we might give them a bit of grain.  I'm not a big fan of 
really pumping the grain to babies like they do (or used to do when we were 
breeding) QHs.


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Keeping Fjords In Shape (Help?)

2002-08-05 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 8/4/2002 3:36:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> Do most of you limit your Fjords feed by keeping them 
> in corrals

We do here. Our girls are out on pasture from 4-6 hours a day depending on 
how much grass there actually is, and then put in the dry lot over night.  
They are looking quite nice this year by using this method.  I do shudder to 
think what they'd look like if left on pasture 24-7.

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
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Re: Kely

2002-08-05 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello Griet,

We are so sorry about Kely, our thoughts are with you.  

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords & Shetlands
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
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http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/






address change

2002-08-05 Thread LEHunger
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HelloI would like to have my mailing address changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks for your help in this...
Linda Hungerford






Re: New PNFPG web site

2002-08-05 Thread ruth bushnell
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Very nice Peg except for the one paragraph:
==
"The Norwegian Fjord Horse has a very gentle and engaging personality that
is hard to resist. They are as well suited for families with small children
as they are for the competitive horse enthusiast. Their calm, relaxed
temperament and balanced gaits make them an ideal mount for the young or
inexperienced rider and also an enjoyable and willing partner for the adult
rider or driver."

I don't believe the Fjord horse is well suited for "small children" or "an
ideal mount for the young or inexperienced rider" and I would like to see
that paragraph modified to a more realistic statement.

I wouldn't want anyone to be injured because of a glowing advertising
misconception, nor would I want PNFPG to be sued because of false
misrepresentation.

Fjords are not suitable children's horses because of their draft factor. Too
much horse for a youngster or inexperienced person! I'm certain there are
many older Fjords out there who do qualify as children's or beginner
horses... very well trained,  or within a corral perhaps, but no
rose-colored blanket statements please!

The exceptionally beautiful disposition of the Fjord can lend a false sense
of security and while they do make for lovely pasture petting mates, they
are after all just an animal with all of the potential for natural animal
reactions... only with an additional strength and power that is formidable !

Agreed, Fjords are not mean-spirited, but if they are jumping ahead to avoid
another Fjord higher up on the pecking scale after them, or if they are
frightened and bolt forward--- there's no way a child or inexperienced
person could stop them.

I would have preferred to more tastefully state this off-list, but I wanted
to countermand that website ad and warn all of the potential for great
danger in allowing children and the inexperienced to mount just any Fjord,
just because they are so friendly.

We will not sell a Fjord as a child's horse and I hope others don't either.

Ruthie, nw mt



> This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Check us out at:
> www.pnwfjordgroup.com
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> Nice work, Helsa! More to follow.
>
> Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
> http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/






Re: Kely

2002-08-05 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear Griet,

I am so very sorry to read of the loss of your dear old friend ! You made
the right decision when you decided to end her suffering, but I know it was
a difficult choice for you.

I send you a hug, and a prayer for the healing of your loss.

Best regards, Ruthie, NW MT



> Hi Fjordfolks
>
> It has been a while that I did not write to the list but i do read
> everything.
> Last week we had to give up a Fjordie of ours, and it has been very very
hard.
> For more than a year we tried everything and last saterday we had to
decide
> that it was enough for her. She had a lot of pain and we couldn't stand
the
> sight of her like that anymore.
> She was only 16 years old. I do not now if it is the same name in english
but
> she suffered from 'artrose' and it became worse every week. We will miss
her.
>
> Griet from Belgium.






Re: Kely

2002-08-05 Thread tillie34
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Our thoughts are with you. We are sorry for your loss. 

Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond OR  (541) 548-6018
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589






Kely

2002-08-05 Thread griet vandenbroucke
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Hi Fjordfolks

It has been a while that I did not write to the list but i do read
everything.
Last week we had to give up a Fjordie of ours, and it has been very very hard.
For more than a year we tried everything and last saterday we had to decide
that it was enough for her. She had a lot of pain and we couldn't stand the
sight of her like that anymore.
She was only 16 years old. I do not now if it is the same name in english but
she suffered from 'artrose' and it became worse every week. We will miss her.

Griet from Belgium.






Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #175

2002-08-05 Thread Jean Gayle
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One point re cross breeding is the owner usually makes a pretty good,
sometimes higher than a well trained purebred, profit on a fjord cross
I find that amazing. Jean





Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"



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Date: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #175


>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On 31 Jul 2002 at 19:35, fjordhorse-digest wrote:
>
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>
> Why stop here, why don't we start cross breeding fjords with minis so that
we
>could get an adorable miniature fjord? Pardon me, but isn't it the case
that the stud
>should have his registration pulled? I thought this was something that we
wanted to
>avoid. I think the owner of this stud should have to bear the consequences
of a major
>violation of the registry rule.






Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #175

2002-08-05 Thread wcoli
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On 31 Jul 2002 at 19:35, fjordhorse-digest wrote:

>  Seems the guy who bred her loved
> Fjords but was too tall(legs too long) to ride one
> comfortably.  So he bred his favorite 'other' mare to
> a Fjord stud hoping for a sturdy offspring with a bit
> longer legs. 

Why stop here, why don't we start cross breeding fjords with minis so 
that we 
could get an adorable miniature fjord? Pardon me, but isn't it the case that 
the stud 
should have his registration pulled? I thought this was something that we 
wanted to 
avoid. I think the owner of this stud should have to bear the consequences of a 
major 
violation of the registry rule.






OH Silas, Finger Lakes Show and Heads Up for Middleville - Sept 15

2002-08-05 Thread Cheryl Beillard
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Go right ahead and brag, Patti .. I too like to hear about your growing list of
wins with Silas .. I run out to the barn each time there's a new posting and
tell his mom, Bragda, all about it . .. she's given us a very nice colt by
Flotren this year (soon to be on his way to join Kevlar another Bragda son, at
Barb Jone's barn) and we're hoping for more with the same wonderful conformation
and energy .. but I know that it takes the skill and hard work you have put into
Silas to get consistent performance in the ring -- and paticularly to win in an
all breed show.  Good for you!

FINGER LAKES SHOW  -  Congratulations are also in order for Julie Will and her
co-conspirators in organizing the Finger Lakes Show again this year .. we got
back last night and I'm still unpacking but little vignettes from the weekend
keep playing around in my head .. some very nice horses and performances.I
think there were even more entries than last year, but will wait for the full
report from 'official' sources.  Suffice to say that a good time was had by all,
and it was as usual a friendly and well organized event, which is something
we'll try to match when it comes to organizing the first show for Ontario
(Middleville, Sept. 15)  --  for those of you not going to Libby .. we hope this
is a show you will try to attend.  Look for more information in the next week or
so .. Pat Wolfe has the registration package about ready to go and we need to
fine tune some details re the program, but we are hoping to add a few surprises
for which the details still need to be worked out.

HEADS UP  -- MIDDLEVILLE  - ONTARIO SHOW  As you will remember, we cancelled
what was to be the inaugural show last year because it fell on the w/e after
9/11 and we felt it was just not appropriate .   We anticipate that Ottawa
papers will cover the event because of the presence of the Viking exhibit at the
Canadian Museum of Civilisation and that there will be a significant interest on
the part of the general public (as horse shows go!) because of the coverage we
have managed to generate with the tv interview at the Norwegian Embassy in
December  (Tunica and "W"/Katie) and subsequent
pictures/stories with the Governor Generals winter party and King/Queen of
Norway at the opening of the Exhibit in May.   Over the four days we spent at
the Museum, this time with Tunica and Soleia, we got lots of enquiries from the
general public about the breed and breeders in the region.

Now we are creating an opportunity to bring together the 9 Ontario members of
the NFHR along with
the several breeders in the province who are members of the Canadian
Registry (or both)  and/or lurkers on the List .. you know who you are!) .. AND
to raise
the profile of the breed, because of our proximity to the national capital - our
linkage to the Norwegian government in Canada and the press who are now a little
more sensitized to the uniqueness of these horses ..

ACCESS   -  For our American friends, you should know that Ottawa/Middleville is
only about 3.5 to 4 hrs north of Syracuse .. and an easy drive on good roads
coming up from Vermont (contact me or Pat for advice on directions and which
bridge).

As an aside, to indicate why we think it's important to bring together the
Ontario fjord owners/breeders, many of you may not realize how BIG Ontario is ..
!  It takes 2 days of steady 14 hr days driving to get from east to west in
Ontario .. something I only appreciated when I did a cross country tour in 96
and found that even though we are about 1/3 of the way across, it still took me
over 20 hrs to get to the Manitoba border!)

BREED PROMOTION   Anyhow, the point is .. we have got the attention of the
media, reinforced by the presence of the Viking exhibit (and hence interest of
the federal government and the Norwegian Embassy in promoting all things Nordic)
.. and a newly sensitized general public who now may recognize the horse but
don't really know what it can do.  This is an excellent opportunity to get some
high profile publicity for the breed, and the breeders who attend with their
horses.   We will have a full range of classes, but hope many of you will
bring mares with foals at side not only for the 'hh' factor but to
demonstrate what good stock we are raising in this part of the country .. And it
would be wonderful to see some of the stallions we have on both sides of the
border.

BORDER ISSUES  - NOT  -  For those of you concerned about the crossing, by the
way, I took two horses down to the Finger Lakes Show and it took less than 5
minutes to get the papers stamped on the way down (no vet check needed if you
have the Coggins and 30 day export/import papers completed by your vet and state
authorities in advance) .. and the same coming back last night.  I also had no
trouble at the border in March, when I took W down to be picked up at Julie's en
route to Colorado .. so this should not be an issue.  Pat says h

Re: feed for foals

2002-08-05 Thread Hope Carlson
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What do people feed for the foals? Just pasture, some hay? Any grain?
Thanks, Hope






hello

2002-08-05 Thread steven dipiero
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:59:19 -0700, "Knutsen Fjord Farm"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Check us out at:
> www.pnwfjordgroup.com 
> 
> Nice work, Helsa! More to follow.
> 
> Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA
> http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
> 
>hello,peg
 this is from steve and joan dipiero. we bought a filly
 from you about four plus years ago,that was boarded at
 catherine's horse haven.the one we renamed tinka.
 anyway,we retired in cenral mexico and she is here with
 us.she certainly is a sight here.
 she is a great horse and lots of fun.thanks.
 steve
 

-- 
  steven dipiero
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Re: Training Fjords

2002-08-05 Thread Karen Keith

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I've got two Fjords now.  The first one I bought and assumed I'd break to 
drive.  Doesn't look like it's going to happen.  He's a lovely riding horse, 
great temperament, but just freaks out about rattling stuff behind him.  
He's a rising 5 yr old.


The second Fjord I bought had been broken to harness only a couple of 
months, but her attitude is completely different.  She doesn't worry about 
things, and when something does upset her, it only lasts a moment and she 
calms easily with a word and steadying hand.  She's a 6 yr old.


That's just my experience.  I really, really would like to drive my gelding 
because he's the better of the two in type and movement, but it may never 
happen, and it won't happen without professional intervention.  If I had it 
to do all over again, I'd buy one that was already driving, if driving was 
high on the priority list.


JMO

Karen


...to look for the perfect Fjord, and I have come across one
that I really like. The only downside to him is that he is not broke to
drive. I would really like to have a driving horse.


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Re: Training Fjords

2002-08-05 Thread Mypettaco
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I am an amateur horse trainer and have worked with only my family's Fjords 
but in my experiences they are all very willing horses.  The only difficulty 
I have had with training then is that they are VERY smart.  I have to think 
faster than them.  My Fjords do not like repetition if I want then to by very 
good at an exercise I have to do a little of that exercise then a little of a 
new more challening exercise or they get bored and goof off.  I have not 
worked with enough Fjords to really have a good idea of the Fjord as a whole 
this is just my experience.

Erica






Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #178

2002-08-05 Thread Linda Lehnert
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Congratulations to Dave Walter on his show results.  I have shown Morgans
with QH judges in Western Pleasure and they absolutely do NOT like any
horse who doesn't have his head between his knees like he is looking for
grass and who actually moves faster than cold molasses at the jog and
lope.  They tend to place the upheaded breeds that can move well
(Morgans, Fjords, Arabians, etc) as low as possible.  With Morgans I
found I did better with Arabian judges since Morgans and Arabians are
virtually identical in Western Pleasure.  I think this would´apply to
other upheaded breeds too, including Fjords.  I would suggest trying if
at all possible to avoid QH judges and get Arabian or Morgan judges if
you can't find a show with a Fjord judge.  What kind of a trainer is he
that he didn't know what a Fjord is?  He must not know much about other
breeds.  Their appearance is so distinctive, which makes them very
attractive.  I am now living in Germany and will start looking for a
Fjord since I have had excellent response from the Fjord Horse list and
owners are all so enthusiastic.  Where I live is right in the middle of
"Fjord Country" in the Odenwald.  We have alot of Hafis here too.

Grüssen aus Reichelsheim in der Odenwald,

Linda Lehnert






Re: west nile in colorado

2002-08-05 Thread Jean Gayle
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Karen in So.Mo. What does WNV stand for?  You say, " and two deaths in
horses from WNV."West Nile Virus?  West Nile Vaccine?   Jean


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