Re: Anyone have anemic fjords?

2002-08-13 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Caitlin, last year my twenty two year old huge Trakehner also had a blood
test and came up short, described as anemic.  I was advised to give him
Lixotinic and still do.  I have not had a further test for him but judging
how he looks and acts he is fine.  But listen to this...this old horse gets,
Lixotinic, northwest supplement, vit C, equine senior, trihist, alfalfa
twice a day and eastern hay once a day. Wetted down, of course . Plus, a
very expensive immune stimulant of herbs, and then apples when the tree lets
go of them.

His anemia came on I think when we gave him some horrendous shots for
sarcoids that about did him in and his immune system got over taxed, I
think. Now we are using xxterra salve which is really working but taking
quite a time. He had a bunch of sarcoids in his groin, on his sheath and his
inner leg.  Takes me about an hour a day to keep up with his needs. But it
is worth it.   Jean





Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
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Re: Anyone have anemic fjords?

2002-08-13 Thread Cait603
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My 14 year old Fjord had not been feeling his usual self.  Therefore I had 
the vet come out and take a look.  She pulled blood and it came back as being 
slightly anemic.  She prescribed the Red Cell and said he would start to feel 
better after that.  Anyone else ever have an anemic horse?  How long does it 
take for themm to start feeling better?
Thanks a lot
Caitlin and her wonderful fjords, Frisk and Bert






Re: Helmets & Being Cool

2002-08-13 Thread NordicKees
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In a message dated 8/13/2002 8:42:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I endorse helmets every time, every event.  There's a national law for 
> wearing seatbelts.

I am with you.  I always wear a helmet.  All it takes is one time and I don't 
care how many years I have ridden without one and haven't gotten hurt, - it 
still only takes one time.
My husband's niece died a few years ago fallling off a horse and she trained 
horses.
She fell on her head and her 10 year old daughter and little baby boy were 
there and saw it happen.  She died instantly.  It was just awful.  And she 
did NOT have a helmet on.  What a tragedy.  She was only 28 years old and a 
beautiful young woman.  Really sad.

Rondi Tyler.
So. Calif.






NO!!!don't just click on 'Reply'

2002-08-13 Thread Ursula Jensen
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DUH!!! what happened with the last Digest.? Did someone just click  'REPLY"
and send us back several volumes of the previous  LIST?.Time to brush up
on how to be a list member and learn to use a new function key on your
keyboard.explore the universe..be adventurous.
Steve..time for a pep-talk?
No big deal really but it's just nice to NOT have to scroll down half of the
Digest to read new messages...
Geeesh, must be the heat!!! I'm getting sassy again.

Ursula & Brian Jensen
Trinity Fjords
Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0
http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
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(250) 547-6303






To wear a helmet or not?

2002-08-13 Thread Debbie Treydte
This message is from: Debbie Treydte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What does one do that rides with a western hat. If you show Western riding with 
the "typical" helmet won't
get it. Do they have some sort of inserts?

Deb T.






Re: fjords as kids horses

2002-08-13 Thread C. Ennis
This message is from: "C. Ennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Take your time, there are a million/trillion issues that we deal with &
encounter with our own human babies, (our children)-and guess what? there are
a million/trillion issues to deal with and encounter with our  4-legged
friends, whichever breed you choose, combine the two & regardless of how you
'feel' about your horse of choice, we, as parents; or caregivers/mentors of
any sort, have to THINK, RESPOND, and KNOW, that there are always changing
conditions that are ongoing-and potentially dangerous. Turn your head for one
moment & that is when the tide may turnbe careful...(wear helmets and
correct footwear, and break-away stirrups-teach emergency dis-mount in walk,
trot & canter: or demand that your child's instructor do so, keep your child
in lessons with a reputable teacher, even if it's once a month-to keep your
child & horse on task)  We are SO lucky, we may have beautiful and inspiring
young people in our lives, and we may have beautiful & challenging horses
(Fjords!!) in our lives...take caution, protect,... be a guide, There are so
many barn/horse activities to learn and do while not on horseback...slow down,
be careful, there is no hurry(and take pictures) D& the boys-
Original Message -
From: Dave Walter
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:08 PM
To: fjord horse
Subject: fjords as kids horses

This message is from: "Dave Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Everything that everyone has been talking about as Fjords for kids is true
with ANY breed.  Why do you just say Fjords.  Sheri Kane hit the nail on the
head, it is a respect issue.  That is true with any breed, just like she
said.
So the Fjords will show their strength or go their own way if they don't
respect you.  Do you know what other breeds do, bolt, rear, buck, bite, they
too will shove, evade the bit, etc etc etc. Fjords can do these too, but for
the most part they get "bully".   I am a 4H leader, I see all year long what
other breeds do with kids.  Some kids are naturally talented both in the
saddle and handling horses, they are strongwilled and let the horse know it,
other kids are timid and afraid.  Guess who has the problems?  Those timid
kids want to ride, but they literally just want to be a passenger up there.
They command no respect from the horse. Those are the kids that need the most
well broke honest horse around.  Basically most kids don't want to "learn" to
ride they just want to ride.  Think it has to do with the "I want things now"
mentality of our society.  Kids have to be taught HOW to handle horses, along
with riding.  I agree that young Fjords and young kids aren't the best
answer.
I tell buyers please go out and buy an older well trained suitable horse for
your child, any breed.

I just think we sometimes forget that Fjords are horses.  A good majority are
great horses for kids and a lot aren't.  You need to know your horse and your
kid. I think the breed in general is by far better off better for kids than
other breeds.  I have had several other breeds of horses and see the Fjords
as
the best with kids yet.  I have had some of my 4H'ers bring my horses to
shows.  I have had some take lessons and even some have bought some Fjords
for
their kids.  We even have taken many out on trail rides.  I THANK GOD, and I
mean that, nothing has ever happened, not even close.  I contribute that to
the Fjords!  When I was in Germany, a large stable there gives riding lessons
to kids.  I believe they have something like 100 kids a week.  He has been
doing it for 30 yrs, NEVER having a serious accident, he too said it was due
to having FJORDS.  They also teach the kids VAULTING on the horse.  Think you
better have a steady breed to do what he is doing, he knows it, that is why
he
has Fjords.  Being a breeder, trainer, and active in our local Fjord club.
The biggest thing that gets me with this breed is the lack of thinking these
are horses.  I think when we have them for a while we forget how other breeds
are, and/or we forget they are a horse.  All different with their own
personality and disposition.  My Fjord may not be like my neighbors, in
looks,
color and disposition/personality.  One Fjord is not the same as every Fjord.
That is what a horse in general is, in any breed.  You have to consider
personality and disposition.  I have not had much terrible with my Fjords, I
expect them to behave.  No ifs, ands or buts.  I have had trouble with
outside
Fjords coming in for training.  I know, Rich Monheim who is a certified John
Lyons trainer in Eagle River Wi would say the same thing.  A lot of very
disrespectful Fjords, who's owners have not taught them to be respectful.
Fjords are horses, they are very smart animals and will walk all over you,
your child, whomever if you let them.  Please people learn HOW to teach your
horse manners.  If you send it off to a trainer, learn from them, otherwise
that horse will come back home and within days or hours it will be the sa

Re: Turlock Horse Show?

2002-08-13 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 8/13/02 9:07:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< I can't find the  Turlock CA Fjord show listed in my Fjord Herald 
 (summer).  Is it still on?  Can anyone tell me the contact person?? >>

Hi Martie-

It sure is! Visit the Fjordings West link in my signature for dates and 
contacts. You can even view the class list and register online.

Brigid M Wasson 
San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>
Fjordings West 
   / )__~  
/L /L  






Re: Turlock Horse Show?

2002-08-13 Thread bolinsj

This message is from: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I can't find the  Turlock CA Fjord show listed in my Fjord Herald 
(summer).  Is it still on?  Can anyone tell me the contact person??


thanks,
Martie in MD






Helmets & Being Cool

2002-08-13 Thread BugEwhip
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I endorse helmets every time, every event.  There's a national law for 
wearing seatbelts.  Why not a law for helmets in sporting events that 
indicate them?  Do you EVER see a highschool, college or pro football player 
on the field without one?

Funny, the people who don't wear helmets are so quick to point out the 
exception to the wisdom.  "Why, I knew of a rider back in '92 who was wearing 
a helmet and he still died."  Yadda, yadda.  The one I love is, "I've never 
worn a helmet and never had an accident."  Hey, I'll bet my paycheck on you.  
Not.

It only takes one head injury to change your whole life and, as an extra 
bonus, the lives of your family, too.

Pamela Garofalo
Nurse in CA






Western classes abroad

2002-08-13 Thread Epona1971
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Hi Linda-

I enjoyed your account of an "American Western" show in Germany. Glad to hear 
there were Fjords competing. Too bad about the preference for the horizontal 
head carriage -- so unnatural and counter to real performance. This is a 
trend that can't die too soon.

I just returned home from Norway, where Western riding is becoming popular. 
Although I never saw anyone riding Western, every shop sells Western saddles, 
chaps, and other things. I was told that there is an accomplished reining 
rider, although I never met him. Because QH's are so rare and expensive to 
import (like $20K!) people use ex-trotters and other breeds for Western 
classes. That must be a sight, to see a harness racer jogging ;-)





Brigid M Wasson 
San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>
Fjordings West 
   / )__~  
/L /L  






Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #185

2002-08-13 Thread Linda Lehnert
This message is from: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To Members of the Fjord Horse List:

I was very sorry to hear about Pam's step-sister,such a loss and with a
young child too.   It's a powerful argument for wearing a helmet. I pray
for Les and Margaret  having to  make a difficult decision on their old
horse.  Losing a horse is always sad, but they can be thankful that he
had a good home all of his life with people who loved him and took care
of him.

Tinkertoy is beautiful, very impressive.  She has a pretty head too. 
This is not surprising since her dam is a beautiful mare and apparently a
good mother too.

About the issue of Fjords and children, I don't have a Fjord yet, but
have an appointment to see some on Thursday.  However, I can write a bit,
so here is my suggestion:

    With their calm, gentle disposition, intelligence and willingness, a
Fjord can be an excellent children's mount when properly supervised by an
adult and when other safety precautions, such as always using a helmet,
are observed.  It is equally  important for the child  to get proper
instruction, so he or she can learn to ride and handle horses
correctly in a safe manner.  Since not all horses are suitable for all
riders, each being an individual, it is important to match a rider or
driver  of any age with a horse that is suitable for that rider's
interests and abilities so that the person  doesn't have "too much horse"
to handle.

Show news from Germany: There were  2 Fjords at the American Western Show
in Mannheim last week.  One, a beautiful horse, athletic, intelligent,
willing and well-trained, won her  trail class and the rider took home a
nice ribbon and beautiful trophy. The other Fjord mare didn't place in
the Western Horsemanship class, although I thought she looked very good. 
Neither showed in western pleasure or western riding, which was just as
well since the show had a QH judge who didn't pick any upheaded horses in
those classes.  What is important is that these 2 Fjords looked good and
showed off their athletic ability and made a good impression on the rail
birds, which is the target market for breed promotion.  The judge already
has a breed preference.  Here, even more than in the US it
appears, western riding and shows are - you guessed it - QH dominated. 
To give credit where it is due the QH people are the best in the business
at breed promotion which is why we have 20,000 QH in Germany and only 175
Morgans.  the Isi Pferde (the Icelandic Horse, Island Pferd in
German) people are also very good at breed promotion 

I always enjoy the FH Digest and reading everyone's comments. 

Grüßen aus Reichelsheim in der Odenwald,

Linda Lehnert

 

 

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fjordhorse-digest)
>Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: fjordhorse-digest V2002
#185 >Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:36:16 -0400 > > >fjordhorse-digest
Monday, August 12 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 185 > > > >In this issue: > >
Re:bucking fjord/ loose horses:) > FWD from CD-L: re Karen McCarthy >
Pamela's step-sister > Various > RE: Tragedy Re: Fjords for Kids & Riding
Helmets > Re: Ruthie's comment on brochure.. > Re: Tinkertoy > Martie
Bolinski's art > Re: Tragedy Re: Fjords for Kids > I'll be dadgummed! A
Fjord mule > Re: Advertisement - Fjord items for sale - delete now if not
interested > Re: Ruthie's comment on brochure.. > fjord mule > Re:
Tragedy Re: Fjords for Kids > Fwd: [ClassicShetlands] stolen horses > Re:
Ruthie's comment on brochure.. > >See the end of the digest for
information on how to retrieve back issues. >
>-- >
>Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:41:12 -0400 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re:bucking fjord/ loose horses:) > >This message is from:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello list, > > Every now and then I relate
to my past episodes with "someone elses horse" ( I'm still horseless and
still a wannabe Fjord owner) however back to loose horses. We live in
Amish country ( Geauga County) Ohio. Plenty of times my hubby and I have
stopped to catch a loose horse and return it to the barn weather the
owner is home or not. Who knows we may have put the wrong horse in the
wrong barn. But, it was out of the road and out of harms way, at least
when we left. A few times the horse just walked up to me when I offered a
handful of grass. Could be couriosity on the horses part, couldn't be
hunger, the whole field was IN FRONT for the eating!!! > > >Beth Ann
Swonger >Swongers Dusty Oaks >Middlefield,Ohio > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: > > >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Pamela, I had
to chuckle at your description of bucking.  Yesterday my > >daughter and
I saddled our fjords - me with "Sven" and she with "Lena" and > >baby
"Hasse" ponied along side.  You might think she would have a more >
>difficult time riding with Hasse trailing along side - NOPE!! -- it was
me > >with good ole' Sven!!! > > > >He was fine while we were side by
si

Re: Meadowbrook carts

2002-08-13 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello Karen,

Great to see you back!  Hope you are feeling much better and the next few 
weeks or so go quickly for you!

Lynda

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords & Shetlands
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
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Sydney Saddleworks

2002-08-13 Thread The Mercers
This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone know anything about Frontier Equestrian and Sydney
Saddleworks Aussie saddles?

Taffy Mercer






Re: Meadowbrook carts

2002-08-13 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Michael,

well, I think you have your Karen's mixed up..but while  have you here, I
can direct you to a neat, economical cart that is NOT a M.B.

It is a version of a road cart, made by Kurt Barnes, KG Enterprises,
Fallon, Nv.

I had a modified one built for training andlowewr level CDE that I am
VERY happy with. Sturdy, attractive, easy to balance, and it cost just
under $1800. Course I picked it up as i live about an hour away, but
still, excellent value for your money.

I hate M.B.s for all the reasons folks talk about, but primarily the
awful balance, and weight of too much wood.

I can fwd a pic of what it looks like if you cannot reach his site,
kgenterprises.net

all the best, Kmac

Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, 
Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original
Message Follows From: Michael H Melbye Reply-To:
fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject:
Re: Meadowbrook carts Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:50:14 -0700 This message
is from: Michael H Melbye Howdy Karen, Thought I would send this again,
as I haven't heard from you. Please send the info as soon as possible.
Thanks, - Forwarded message -- From: Michael H Melbye To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen Keith, Saw the following and was wondering if
you have a website or any info you can send me on these Aussie carriages.
I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks, Michael Melbye 15411 Tubbs
Rd. E. Buckley, WA 98321 [360] 897-8212 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >If you're
looking for a good-looking, easy-entry style cart which will take >you
from pleasure driving to combined driving, contact me privately. I am >an
importer of steel competition carriages from Australia, and the fully
>dismantle-able and adjustable "jinker" may be just what you are looking
for. > >Cheers! > >Karen Keith >Aussie Carriages



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