Re: Fjord Fun Day - Fixed!
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Fun Day page has been fixed, thanks to Sandy. New photos included. Have fun! http://www.starfirefarm.com Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
If you need a place to stay.... October 12th
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Friends- If you're coming to the Memorial Celebration for Julie Will and need a place to stay, please let me know. I would be very happy to open my home to friends! I live 5 minutes from Old Hickory Farm. Phone - 315-626-2976 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take Care All! Pat McCurdy Cato, NY
Re:Grooming at German National Fjord Show
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda, IMO, I really don't think that the grooming you are seeing in Germany is unusual or "disgusting"...Au natural is pretty much how I turn out my fjords, for all types of showing, except I do pony clip the ears (just the outer edge, none of the interior) and do my "biggest" job of sculpting their heads (goat hairs begone!!), and when I compete in CDE's and I know that the fjords will be encumbered by their early hair coats, I do a trace clip, which even in this climate here in cold N. Nevada, keeps their bodies toasty all winter long. Grooming is what you make it - some folks prefer to remove all hair, and some like to leave it on; what's important is the quality of ANY type of preference in grooming: ugh, who likes the look of a horse with crappy hoof polish job, or a clip job done too close to a showdate, or manure stains still present on an otherwise lovely conditioned hair coat. Anyway, just my .02 cents worth KMac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original Message Follows From: "Linda Lehnert" Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 05:15:48 + If you saw how they groom horses here for show, you would all faint. They do not groom like we do. They leave all the long hairs under the chin and on the cheeks, the muzzle and eye hairs, the ears unclipped, no clipping of the legs, the fetlock joints, the pasterns, etc, no sandpapering of the hoofs with hoof polish and no Show Sheen. It's disgusting. Someone in a tack shop when I went to buy some clippers told me it is not allowed to clip American style here, so I suppose if I show Ricka, I will either have to go German style or run the risk of being disqualified." Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?
This message is from: Janine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi this Janine in Victoria, B.C. I have two fjords and I wouldn't dream of clipping their whiskers or eye lashes, only the "goat hairs" under the chin and throat, (I love the way that was put). I clip these so I can do up the nose band without pulling at the hair. I also clip a bridle path so my bridle will fit on, give them 3 weeks and they wouldn't. I don't show or event anymore so I prefer to leave well enough alone, the hair is there for a reason. My mare grows a very long coat every winter so I give her a modified trace clip that goes from under her throat, down her chest, and stops just behind the girth. It only goes 1/3 up the sides of her neck and 2 inches up from her elbows. I clipped her out on the 24th of Sept. and just did her again yesterday but I have yet to clip out my boy Lorens. I clip them in the winter so they don't sweat up too much, take so long to cool down and dry off, who wants to be wet and cold? I also clip so I can be sure that the girth area is kept clean, who wants girth galls? This is only my humble opinion. - Original Message - From: "Bossmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh? > This message is from: "Bossmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'd like some advice on this one. I have two Fjord mares here in New Jersey. > Both are growing thick coats but our temps are in the 70's. I took the new > mare on a half-mile walk around the farm (stopping on her part occasionally to > make sure the barn was still there) and was surprised to see how warm she was > from the walk. The other mare after a brief (successful, yea!) training > session was also very warm. In fact with the temps in the 60's overnight they > come in from pasture with sweaty patches on belly and neck. > > I do not believe in clipping and have never clipped a horse but neither have I > had any that seemed to sweat this easily with light work, or no work in > moderate temps. Last year I wound up clipping the one mare on her neck and > belly but hated the look as the difference in color was so noticeable and she > looked motheaten. Even with the trace clip she was warm during the mild > winter we had. > > So, what do you folks south of the arctic do with your horses in work or those > you'd like to put in work. I'm more concerned with the health risk of letting > wet long-haired horses dry out than with cosmetics. Is it possible that the > Fjords endure this better than other breeds? I should add that I don't see > any signs of heat distress in breathing or energy, just the damp to wet coat. > > Lois
Re: filly update and big thanks
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hooray for you and the filly that it turned out okay.. What a relief! Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
filly update and big thanks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all I want to thank all of you for your suggestions both on the list and privately. I very much needed the moral support and encouragement. Thanks also to Sue giagiagari for answering the phone at 4:30 am (Richard you're a dear) and taking the time to listen as well as offer advise until the vet showed up, and for driving to my house after a family engagement only to find we had left for tufts, going there, and staying close by to accompany me back in to see her on sun. well beyond the call of duty. A very special chrismas gift is in order I think! (hand made, tufts is not cheap)! I have many friends in the horse world but the fjord bunch live up to their reputation! Ytske will be OK! Fluid therapy was successful we are now waiting till the diarrhea clears up and she can be released. Her in solids foods, hay mainly, was a bit ahead of her ability to handle it, with her interest in nursing decreasing during a bout of diarrhea they can only guess this was the cause. They are continuing to treat for ulcers and have taken her off IV fluids we expect to pick her up in the next day or so. Thanks again all of you. Sam Stanley BAREFOOT FARM FJORDS
Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?
This message is from: "Bossmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Another question: How many times do you need to clip to keep the coat short? Also I've read somewhere (not being an expert at all on this subject) that there is an optimal time to clip, I believe after the winter coat is well established but it seems to me that problems could develop long before that. We had a Friesian mare with a coat similar to a Fjords (very dense) and she had to be clipped year round. She also had problems with heat and cooling out. Last year my Fjord mare grew not only a dense coat early on but longish like dog hair later in the winter. She smelled like one when wet too. Much as I like my horses natural I think if I want to use her she will need clipping. Lois - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh? > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I live in Southern, CA but it does not seem to stop Fjords from growing a > thick winter coat despite year around average temperatures of 70 degrees. It > can be 80 degrees in January. I find clipping a necessity rather than > cosmetic. A horse worked hard in a thick coat is miserable. They breath hard > from overheating and seem lethargic. I do a full body clip which looks just > like their summer coat after a few weeks. Then, I have to blanket on cold > nights. > > I learned the hard way. I didn't clip a Fjord once and he got so stressed and > dehydrated that he started to colic. It took 4 bags of IV fluids to get him > back on track.
Re: Aurora!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HAHA!! Peg, the Minnesota Twins are our baseball team !! They are working their way to the playoffs - game tonight starts at 7pm. It is fun! Linda in MN - colors are almost at peak but the sun is not shining much lately - boo!
Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?
This message is from: bolinsj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If I plan to do a lot of winter driving, I find I need to 'trace clip' Kilar. He just sweats too much otherwise. It is impossible to 'cool him out' after a good driving workout. I am afraid he will catch cold or something. Last year I did not clip because I planned to ride overwinter instead of drive. I wound up driving more than riding and really wished I had clipped him. This year I plan to do a moderate trace clip again. Other than that, I do not clip anything but his mane and the nasty tufts that stick out of his ears. I leave the goat hairs in place. I DO clip the few goat hairs that the mare, Frida gets because it looks more 'feminine'. Martie in MD - where the Fjordies are finally getting their winter coats. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I live in Southern, CA but it does not seem to stop Fjords from growing a thick winter coat despite year around average temperatures of 70 degrees. It can be 80 degrees in January. I find clipping a necessity rather than cosmetic. A horse worked hard in a thick coat is miserable. They breath hard from overheating and seem lethargic. I do a full body clip which looks just like their summer coat after a few weeks. Then, I have to blanket on cold nights.
Re: Fjord Fun Day
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, if you haven't had a chance to look at it already, I've broken the site. I'll have to wait until Sandy comes home so she can fix it. Sorry! There will be additional photos once it's back up. I'll keep you posted. Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
If horses were in high school
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent to me today by my dressage teacher...just had to share. If Horses Were In High School: Quarter Horses: Definitely jocks. Strutting around flexing those muscles, showing off their butts. Not real bright. But get passed on since they are responsible for all the trophies in the glass cases. Thoroughbreds: Preppies. They are athletes, never 'jocks'. Monogrammed blankets, leather halters, Nike eventer shoes, the latest custom trailer and tack. Connemaras: Gorgeous chicks with sultry eyelashes, sexy curves, devil-may-care attitudes. NOT into studying or anything to do with geometry. Great fun to be around, delightful senses of humor, and the world's best pranksters. Can usually be found in the nearest pub, entertaining the masses. Fast and easy. Appaloosas: Could only be the stoners. They like to drop acid so they can watch their spots move. Arabians: RAH! RAH! SIS BOOM BAH! GOOO TEAM!! (need I say more?) Shetland Ponies: Frightening, spiky hairdos, snotty attitude and any color of the rainbow. Gotta be PUNKS. Some even sport tattoos. Friesians: Big, buff, and always in black, they are the biker clique. Cigs hanging out of the corner of their mouths, dangerous glint in the eyes, daring anyone to cross their path. Morgans: They're the nerdy teacher's pets, running around doing everything from yearbook to decorating the gym and ratting out the bikers, stoners and jocks. They have perpetual wedgies. Drafts (all breeds): No real clique, they're just the big guys who sit in the back of the room and fart a lot (and then laugh). Who's going to STOP them? Icelandics and Paso Finos: They're the little squirrelly geeks who flit around a dance trying to fit in and fail miserably. The kind who wear Toughskins jeans from Sears (or would that be ripoff WeathaBeetas??). Ahkle Tekl (Akle Takl? Ackle Tackle!! Akhal Teke!!): Foreign exchange student(s). And no one can spell their names either. Hackney Ponies: A breed this manic would have to be a band geek. Marching along with their knees and heads held high.even going to the bathroom. Warmbloods: The school staff and faculty. Looking down their noses with righteous indignation and disgust. Secretly wishing they were having half as much fun. = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I live in Southern, CA but it does not seem to stop Fjords from growing a thick winter coat despite year around average temperatures of 70 degrees. It can be 80 degrees in January. I find clipping a necessity rather than cosmetic. A horse worked hard in a thick coat is miserable. They breath hard from overheating and seem lethargic. I do a full body clip which looks just like their summer coat after a few weeks. Then, I have to blanket on cold nights. I learned the hard way. I didn't clip a Fjord once and he got so stressed and dehydrated that he started to colic. It took 4 bags of IV fluids to get him back on track.
Re: HEATH ALERT: WNV in Washington State, German National Fjord Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you describe what some of the top Fjords were like in terms of conformation, size and movement? Thanks.
Re: fjord farm visits
This message is from: "John & Eunice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Randall wrote: "We are the only people with Fjords near Niagara (5 minutes from QEW)." Not the only people . Gagliardi's near Fenwick also have a fjord.
Re: Fjord information for announcer
This message is from: Nancy Newport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I will taking my mares to a local breed expo horse show and need a blurb for the announcer to read. Does anyone have something they have edited for this type of occassion? I will download some brochures from the NFHR web site, but I need something for the announcer. Thanks, Nancy Newport Gainesville, FL Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
Fjord Fun Day
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello list, On Sunday we hosted a Fjord Fun Day here at Starfire Farm. Fjords and their people came from all over the Rocky Mountain region (even Wisconsin!) to enjoy a beautiful fall day in Colorado. Fjord owner "wan'na be's" were able to borrow fjordies from us. We played games like a "Relay Puzzle Race", "Ribbon Race", "Champagne Race" and "Jousting." We also had an obstacle course set up for both drivers and riders to enjoy. During our lunch break our various teams composed and recited Fjord poetry, the words and phrases which had been provided by us, to the teams, during the puzzle race. I've put up a new web page on our website: http://www.starfirefarm.com Click on the button: Fjord Fun Day 2002. You'll see photos of some folks familiar to the list, as well as lurkers. Everyone had a wonderful time. There is already talk of making this an annual event! It was such a pleasure to see and share what these horses are truly made for, having fun! Enjoy! Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Clipping Fjords in work...yea or neigh?
This message is from: "Bossmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd like some advice on this one. I have two Fjord mares here in New Jersey. Both are growing thick coats but our temps are in the 70's. I took the new mare on a half-mile walk around the farm (stopping on her part occasionally to make sure the barn was still there) and was surprised to see how warm she was from the walk. The other mare after a brief (successful, yea!) training session was also very warm. In fact with the temps in the 60's overnight they come in from pasture with sweaty patches on belly and neck. I do not believe in clipping and have never clipped a horse but neither have I had any that seemed to sweat this easily with light work, or no work in moderate temps. Last year I wound up clipping the one mare on her neck and belly but hated the look as the difference in color was so noticeable and she looked motheaten. Even with the trace clip she was warm during the mild winter we had. So, what do you folks south of the arctic do with your horses in work or those you'd like to put in work. I'm more concerned with the health risk of letting wet long-haired horses dry out than with cosmetics. Is it possible that the Fjords endure this better than other breeds? I should add that I don't see any signs of heat distress in breathing or energy, just the damp to wet coat. Lois
Re: HEATH ALERT: WNV in Washington State, German NationalFjord Show
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 10/8/2002 12:10:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > If you saw how they groom horses here for show, > > you would all faint. They do not groom like we do. > > One man's meat is another man's poison I guess. I like the lack of clipping. > The only thing I do clip is the goat hairs. I'd never thing of clipping my > horse's muzzle or eye hairs, as they are there for good reason. Hi, The only hair I clip is the bridle path and mane of course. But then I do not show or compete and I figure all that hair is there for a reason. I do trim the eyelashes just a little if they brush on the blinkers. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: HEATH ALERT: WNV in Washington State, German National Fjord Show
This message is from: "Reena G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Guess I must have missed this original message: > > "If you saw how they groom horses here for show" << But I did get the one from Pamela quoting the above! This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "One man's meat is another man's poison I guess. I like the lack of clipping. > The only thing I do clip is the goat hairs." > > Pamela<< Here Here PamelaI have to admit, I don't do any clipping...I used to be WAY into all of that (of course I don't show anymore!) but I brush Gus out like the dickens, curry him alothe had a nice shining summer coat and an has excellent healthy winter coatI left his ears alone along with all of the other supposed 'clipped' parts (meaning they were unclipped)..I do admit, I trimmed down his whiskers a bit, but that is IT!!! I have no clue why you would sandpaper their hooves? can someone enlightened me? Reena
Re: HEATH ALERT: WNV in Washington State, German National Fjord Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/8/2002 12:10:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If you saw how they groom horses here for show, > you would all faint. They do not groom like we do. They leave all the > long hairs under the chin and on the cheeks, the muzzle and eye hairs, > the ears unclipped, no clipping of the legs, the fetlock joints, the > pasterns, etc, no sandpapering of the hoofs with hoof polish and no Show > Sheen. It's disgusting. One man's meat is another man's poison I guess. I like the lack of clipping. The only thing I do clip is the goat hairs. I'd never thing of clipping my horse's muzzle or eye hairs, as they are there for good reason. Along with the ear hairs (which I do trim up just a bit, but just the tufts that tend to stick out). I wouldn't dream of clipping a fjord's pasterns or sandpapering their hooves!!! Show sheen, it has its uses, but good grooming eliminates the need for show sheen. JMO. But I think I'd like the way they groom. Except for not cleaning up the goat hairs. :) Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Odin
This message is from: "David McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I enjoyed Dagrun's account about Odin. She gave us an account of the best elements of horse training, which starts with the deep appreciation of the horse. You could feel the consistency of her efforts with him, the steadiness, and that hardheaded Norwegian persistence she spoke of until the results were achieved! I am certain the best training is pure pleasure for the person and hopefully for the horse. Thanks, Dagrun, for writing all the details. Dave
Re: WNV: driving fjords
This message is from: "sandra church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi-I got a phone call from a neighbor last night who said that the test results of a dead crow came back positive for WNV. He lives less than 1 mile from me. I am so thankful that my horses received their WNV shots last spring. This is just too close to homemakes me want to run to Home Depot & buy a mosquito magnetmaybe it could be an early Xmas present for the entire family.I drove Loki for the first time in the pasture last weekend & he's a totally different fjord out in the open. He all but snores when in the ring but he loves being in the open. He's thinking "wheethis is fun" & I'm thinking "I like the pokey Loki"! More lessons & practice are definitely needed for both of us. Please remember that I'm used to driving a mini & there's a bit of difference in the horse power between Chief & Loki. I enjoyed driving Chief in Richmond's Victorian Carriage Day at Maymont Park. We received 2nd place (out of 4 entries) in our musical presentation with another mini (probably would've done better if I had remembered the pattern) & 2nd place in the People's Choice Award. After hauling 2 daughters to countless competitions for the past 16 years, it's finally MY turn! Hope everyone's enjoying the fall weather which finally arrived in VaSandra Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here
HEATH ALERT: WNV in Washington State, German National Fjord Show
This message is from: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just learned from another list that they have confirmed a case of WNV in a dead bird found near Spokane in western WA State near the Idaho border and there are 10 more birds awaiting testing at the center in WI. The article, reprinted in its entirety from the Seattle paper, urges the usual precautions. I know some of the List members live in that area, so I wanted to pass this along. I went to the German National Fjord Show over the weekend in Thüringen. It was held in an excellent riding center where they breed Fjords and have all types of courses for riders and is only 9 km from the oldest town in Thüringen, Arnstadt, founded in 1250, beautiful and interesting. I saw a Jon Halsnaes (Ricka's sire) son and grandson, a Kvest Halsnaes son, an Ohlson son and Rei Romanow and his son, Reidan (Rei Romanow, a national champion, was the impressive Fjord in the stall beside the IGF booth at Euro Cheval). Kvest Halsnaes and Dylan, one of Reinhold Eitenmüller's other stallions, were there, but I missed them. I got to see Dirk Bindenberger (Rei Romanow's family) jump Reidan and a Kvest Halsnaes son - he can really ride a jumper. These jumps were set up in the indoor arena in an interesting manner, almost in a circle with a space in between some to cross over - it's hard to describe. They only had dressage, jumping and some driving classes, no western unfortunately. Surprisingly, the driving classes did not have many entries, although many people here with Fjords drive them and go to driving shows almost every weekend. The weather was cold, rainy and altogether miserable, creating some of the most beautiful, but muddy Fjords in the country. If you saw how they groom horses here for show, you would all faint. They do not groom like we do. They leave all the long hairs under the chin and on the cheeks, the muzzle and eye hairs, the ears unclipped, no clipping of the legs, the fetlock joints, the pasterns, etc, no sandpapering of the hoofs with hoof polish and no Show Sheen. It's disgusting. Someone in a tack shop when I went to buy some clippers told me it is not allowed to clip American style here, so I suppose if I show Ricka, I will either have to go German style or run the risk of being disqualified. I developed a problem with my left contact lens and had to leave so I could go to the Optik early Monday AM, so I do not know who won the national championship. I will contact Eike Shoen-Peterson to find out and then let everyone know. I hope it was either Kvest Halsnaes or one of his progeny, Dylan, or one of the Jon Halsnaes sons or grandsons. Linda in Reichelsheim Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
Aurora!
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - I've just spent 20 minutes in the cold, clear night air enthralled by the Northern Lights! I always marvel at them, but tonight I somehow felt that Julie was near, for the first time since her death, and I came away feeling very peaceful. What a heavenly gift! PS - Linda - who are these Twins? A soccer team? Bye - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: Tee Shirt Update
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve McIlree wrote: > This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Several folks have asked what was happening with the tee shirts. Hi Steve, I can wait for my T shirt as long as it takes. We aren't having T shirt weather here anyway. Can we rename this "The T shirt nightmare"? -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
