Last Call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-03-04 Thread HorseLotti
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Hi Listers;

OK - anyone wanting to send a flyer for the Minnesota Horse Expo please do so 
immediately.  I need to get the info bags organized asap due to our upcoming 
move. 

Thanks - Linda Lottie in MN



fencing and forums

2003-03-04 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 3/4/2003 9:50:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> COME BOARD HERE I don't blame the horses I blame the boarders...
> (LOL)... the only escapes I have is when a HUMAN forgets to shut the gates
> properly No harm done... I just gather up the horses and put them
> back...

OK, I'll be right over ;-) I imagine Fjord breeder/trainers don't think twice 
about having secure facilities. 

Going boarding shopping as soon as Dagrun returns from her business trip. In 
the meantime, I'm spending as much time with "the boys" as possible. If I see 
them at least every other day, play with and feed them grass/grain, they 
don't escape. When I'm not around, they get bored and hungry. Feeding times 
are random. Last weekend, I saw the horses get fed at 10AM and 3PM! Then 
today, I was at the barn from 3-6PM and no feeding. So, either they were fed 
"dinner" at like 2PM or they weren't fed.

Fjord forums: Catherine, I'd love to have some photos and write ups about 
your events at Hestehaven for the Fjordings West web site.


Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
Fjords 
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>Fjordings 
West



Fjords & fences (the saga continues!)

2003-03-04 Thread FjordAmy
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OK, what do we have the only weird Fjords in America or what?  

Our girls will stay in just about anything faintly resembling a fence. 
Regular stock wire, hot wire (with or without and extra fencing), bailing 
twine made to remotely resemble hot wire, or a piece of rope tied around 
trees.  We divide our pasture in spring & summer with just a single strand of 
hot wire - the thin stuff, not the wide tape - and we never have escapes even 
when they get the section they are on chewed down darn near the dirt and 
there's lush stuff right on the other side of that fragile, single wire.  We 
even have a little 8 inch high fake hot wire around the front yard to 
discourage the dog from using it as a bathroom, and the horses won't cross 
it. 

Last year at a "camp-out-driving-event" we attend, where there are little 
pole corrals for the horses, a young warmblood filly broke down the poles 
into the pen Taffy & Emily were in, and also the other side where a Morgan 
mare was housed. Our girls stayed in their own pen, and even shared space 
with the filly when the old Morgan decided she needed two pens (since the 
filly had already torn the fence down).

Just kind of blows me away how much trouble everyone else seems to have 
keeping them in! 

Amy

Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #59

2003-03-04 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Gail,
> what are these brackets called 

>   I would make very good use of such a product, and gladly pay a pretty 
>penny for them! as I have some persistently pushy ponies in pipe panel pens, 
>pursuing one and other's plunder, the  plight of the pens is a pathetic one 
>at times.

LOLAs far as I am concerned, no pipe panel pen is secure without
themat least not when there is grass available.

You might look on the net for Martin Ranch Supply in Sonoma County (They are
in Cotati or Rohnert Park) and send them an e-mail.  I think they must have
web site. .  They are not heavy, so the easiest thing to do might be to ship
to you.  I know they drill out the Bakelite part of the assembly...so it
could be something they get someplace special. I am not living at home right
now (while house being remodelled) so cannot go out and look at how they are
set up.  

I do know that they need to be the right size, and might not fit on a pipe
panel that is oval shaped (instead of perfectly round pipe).  They DO fit on
1 3/8 pipe...and I think they have some for 1 5/8 as well.  Martins is
having a sale...so maybe I will take time to go down there and have a look
for you.

Gail



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #59

2003-03-04 Thread Samsbarefootfarm
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  Gail,
 what are these brackets called or better yet is there a company name 
they are sold under that I could look up?
   I would make very good use of such a product, and gladly pay a pretty 
penny for them! as I have some persistently pushy ponies in pipe panel pens, 
pursuing one and other's plunder, the  plight of the pens is a pathetic one 
at times.
sam



Re: Rottweilers and Fjords

2003-03-04 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey Jean !

If you want to pick nit, split hairs, dissect, or what have you go right
ahead! Isn't that what biologists just naturally do? =

After all, I brought horses into a dog discussion, so I guess you can put
humans in there also if you like. I do see your point. I'm so used to
speaking in terms of pet rescue that I forget there's a world beyond.

Heard they're calling the Iditarod the "Iditadetour" on account of no snow
up there!  =)))

Fjords, I must get Fjords in here somehow... ? Have they shed yet? Don't see
much evidence of it here.

Ruthie, nw mt


>
> Ruthie, not to nit pick  but sterilization is not the same, exactly, as
> neutering/spaying!  Yes, if neutered, spayed, or castrated,  these animals
> are "sterilized" BUT, A vasectomy also results in sterilization, as does a
> woman getting her tubes tied.  Now you wouldn't just want to vasectomize
> your stud colts, would you?  or your male dogs, or tie the tubes of your
> female dogs?  No, the object is to "neuter", removing the hormones that
> cause the stallion's studdy behavior, The females going into heat.
>
> Just had to point that out, (nothing better to do with my time this
> morning! LOL)
>
> Jean
>
> >socialization, often sterilization, curtailment and supervision all
for a
> >well behaved and manageable horse!
> >
> >All provisions that dogs need also--!! a bit of know-how, discipline from
> >early on, socialization, sterilizing, restraint, and supervision.
> ..>70% of all dog bites are by UN-sterilized dogs (can you just
imagine
> the
> >pandemonium if three stallions were allowed to run wild in the
neighborhood?)
> >A spayed/neutered dog makes for a much more compliant pet, a
> 
> Jean Ernest
> Fairbanks, Alaska
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #59

2003-03-04 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have had good luck with post and rail with electric:  I have electric
tape or wire below the bottom rail (two rail fence) to keep them from
reaching under to eat, an electric tape or wire BETWEEN the two rails to
keep them from reaching through to eat, and then if they start to eat the
rails themslves, a wire or tape on entension type insulaters ON the  rails
to keep them from eating the rails.  This also keeps them from rubbing
butts and knocking the fence down that way.  My top rails are 5 ft  high;
If you needed a higer fence youi could put electic wire or tape on
extension type insulaters ABOVE the top rail.

The small pasture is fenced with post and rail only, and those darn fjords
will stick their head through the rails to eat grass outside the pasture,
even when there is plenty inside.  Guess the grass is always greener on the
other side! They have broken posts this way.  If I were going to keep them
in that field for longer periods of time than a couple hours I would put
electric fencing on the wooden fence also.

Jean in still balmy Fairbanks ALaska, a little snow and +32F


>
>We put electric on all of our pipe corrals.  Local farm supply sells a
>bracket that goes on our 1 3/8 round panel pipe.  Not cheap, but really
>works to keep them from bending the pipe.  HOWEVER...Rom has an "eating
>injury" from kneeling to sneak his nose under for a little grass...

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



re:Updated AI Breeding Agreement

2003-03-04 Thread John & Eunice
This message is from: "John & Eunice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Peg ... Is your "AI breeding Agreement"  as entertaining as your postings
to the Fjord Digest?

<>

There must be some award for such an act.Maybe you are a
candidate
for the FEAR FACTOR show. :>)

Eunice in s-w Ontario where winter just doesn't want to end.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #59

2003-03-04 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We put electric on all of our pipe corrals.  Local farm supply sells a
bracket that goes on our 1 3/8 round panel pipe.  Not cheap, but really
works to keep them from bending the pipe.  HOWEVER...Rom has an "eating
injury" from kneeling to sneak his nose under for a little grassa lump
on his knee that appears to be permanent.  Evaluators noted it as "old knee
injury."
>
>Fencing is a tough issue.   Especially with the Fjords.  Gustav knows he can
>push over pipe corral panels,



Re: Rottweilers and Fjords

2003-03-04 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ruthie, not to nit pick  but sterilization is not the same, exactly, as
neutering/spaying!  Yes, if neutered, spayed, or castrated,  these animals
are "sterilized" BUT, A vasectomy also results in sterilization, as does a
woman getting her tubes tied.  Now you wouldn't just want to vasectomize
your stud colts, would you?  or your male dogs, or tie the tubes of your
female dogs?  No, the object is to "neuter", removing the hormones that
cause the stallion's studdy behavior, The females going into heat.

Just had to point that out, (nothing better to do with my time this
morning! LOL)

Jean

>socialization, often sterilization, curtailment and supervision all for a
>well behaved and manageable horse!
>
>All provisions that dogs need also--!! a bit of know-how, discipline from
>early on, socialization, sterilizing, restraint, and supervision.
..>70% of all dog bites are by UN-sterilized dogs (can you just imagine
the
>pandemonium if three stallions were allowed to run wild in the neighborhood?)
>A spayed/neutered dog makes for a much more compliant pet, a

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Rottweilers and Fjords

2003-03-04 Thread ruth bushnell
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One of the most wonderful dogs I have ever had was a purebred Rottweiler, very
sensitive, loving, and responsive.

I see a clear analogy between horse ownership and dog ownership; both call for
responsible management. We all require training of our horses, imprinting and
socialization, often sterilization, curtailment and supervision all for a
well behaved and manageable horse!

All provisions that dogs need also--!! a bit of know-how, discipline from
early on, socialization, sterilizing, restraint, and supervision.
Unfortunately, many people fail to teach their cute little puppies obedience
at the time it is needed most... (a must for a Rottweiler!)
And if you don't have a fenced yard don't have a dog! or don't let that
dog roam freely.

70% of all dog bites are by UN-sterilized dogs (can you just imagine the
pandemonium if three stallions were allowed to run wild in the neighborhood?)
A spayed/neutered dog makes for a much more compliant pet, and much safer! Not
to mention remedying the terrible pet surplus problem we are facing as a
nation.

I know I'm preaching to the choir but it's a good message that can't
be said nearly enough, and one that might prevent tragedy.

Ruthie, nw mt



Wyoming Fjords 4 sell ?? Lost your email! :-(

2003-03-04 Thread RkyMtnTrls
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Hello -

I was emailing to a gentleman in Wyoming who has unregistered, trail riding 
ready Fjords.  I lost your last post!:-( 

I remember what your wrote, but today when I tried to write back, found that 
I must have frustratingly deleted it by mistake.  

Your prices are very reasonable and I am very intersted!  I am only a 2-3 
hour drive from you.  I would like to come up this spring (if you are not 
sold out) when I should have enough to buy with.  (I say "should" as I did 
see the + behind the prices and understand that means that was the starting 
price not the final price.)

If you see this, please send your phone # again!  I was out of town for a 
week, and was just now getting your mail.

Thank you,

Sher Olson in Aurora, Colorado



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #59

2003-03-04 Thread Lassesen
This message is from: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

FENCES and BOARDING

COME BOARD HERE I don't blame the horses I blame the boarders...
(LOL)... the only escapes I have is when a HUMAN forgets to shut the gates
properly No harm done... I just gather up the horses and put them
back...

My boarders are COOL... they even will fill water containers if they think
they are low... I cannot complain... They love it here also... Big arena and
lots of trails...

PEGGY
Glad to see you are back... two words... STONE BOAT Brian Jensen will be
coming down this way from his place... can he pick it up to deliver here???

My girl, Korlina is on DAY 336... She is not right there yet.  Her normal is
344.


WEST COAST FJORD FORUM II
April 4,5,6, 2003
Speaker: Karen Maas - from Michigan
Subject: In- hand showing both for NFHR Evaluations and OPEN shows
(showmanship) & Riding the NFHR Evaluation patterns and tests...

This is your chance to practice and ride the patterns for practice with a
NFHR Evaluator. She will be able to instruct you on the how to's and show
you where you need to practice in order to ride the best test possible for
your Fjord's talents.  DO NOT MISS THIS we have limited number of stalls
and riding spots... DO BOOK NOW... so you will not be sorry...

We do have unlimited auditing space $45.00 for the weekend.

FUN NEWS... the Casino & Hotel is having an ELVIS show during this FORUM...
so if you stay at the casino... you may see three different Elvis walking
around the facility (how fun!)

More FORUM NEWS... Friday is a MINI-POKER RIDE... This is a trail ride in
the hills around our facility.  Saturday will be a classroom session then
the inhand session followed by the riding sessions on Sunday.

CONTACT ME at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call at
541-825-3027 for more information.
-

I am a CREATIVE MEMORIES Consultant...
Please check out how YOU can preserve your HORSEY photos!
Go to my CM Website!
http://www.CreativeMemories.com/catherinelassesen
Thanks!
Catherine Lassesen



Re: missing digests?

2003-03-04 Thread SUSAN GIARGIARI
This message is from: SUSAN GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Jean! I too thought maybe the digest hadn't been coming but my Lion letter 
was sent in reply to the last digest I got.and it is in the next digest 
that I received! That letter was received on 2/28 and the # digest was 
55.so now my questions is..what happened to # 56-#58? This 
replay is to # 59!!  I checked the archives but mispelled the request so I will 
do it again and see if those digests really exist!!  Sue in 0 degree 
Northfield, MA.no way I am sticking my nose out the door!!



Re: Rottweilers

2003-03-04 Thread AJMandSGS
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It's not the breed of dog.  It could happen with ANY breed.  I believe one of 
the the most common biters is the cocker spaniel, it's just the bites are not 
usually fatal or horribly disfiguring.
The problem is a small child will often exhibit behyavoir that these dogs 
(and any other) consider threatening or challenging;i.e. staring, being at 
eye level, et al.
Best solution?  Don't leave any child alone with ANY dog.
I had a rottie.  She was a sweetheart, BUT I wouldn't leave her unattended 
with a child, she was just too big and she did feel threatened when one made 
direct eye contact for long periods of time.  
Now we have 3 Italian greyhounds (12lbs or less each) that I wouldn't leave 
alone with a child.  They wouldn't bite, but they play with their "hands" 
rearing up and striking with their front paws and can leave a nasty scratch 
on bare skin.  We also have 2 weimeraners.  I doubt they'd bite in malice, 
but I'm sure they could do severe damage in play.
Bottom line for the safety of both the child and the animal, don't leave them 
alone together.



Re: Rottweilers

2003-03-04 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My farrier has a Rottweiler that rides with him in the truck.  This one is
a young one, replacing his old dog that had that duty previously.  The
young one is a big lovable "dufus", pops his head up from the rear seat
with a squeaky toy in his mouth and given the chance and least bit of
encouragement, will lovingly slobber all over you.  the old dog was the
same, both well trained by their owner, never threatening, nice with other
dogs, etc.

Jean in  Fairabanks, Alaska, still mild, was +39 yesterday with melting, to
start the Iditarod dog sled race here in Fairbanks (no snow in Anchorage!)

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Rottweilers

2003-03-04 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 3/4/2003 8:00:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Any dog can bite, or kill. Breed makes little difference.

Very well said Brigid.  

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Rottweilers

2003-03-04 Thread Epona1971
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Sue-

Not to worry, your Rottie pup will not suddenly turn vicious! 

Any dog can bite, or kill. Breed makes little difference. Often, folks buy 
Rottweilers or Pit Bulls because they like the tough image. These dogs are 
more often than not unsocialized, untrained, and spend much of their time in 
a garage or on a chain. Sometimes they are even encouraged to show 
aggression, and rewarded for it. 

More than one dog together will form a pack mentality, and be far more 
dangerous. Many dogs do not see children as people -- they are some alien 
small animal. I can only imagine what happened as that child wandered out, 
unsupervised, into the yard. Probably doing things that small kids do, 
running around, screaming, all prey animal behaviors. Just horrible to think 
of. 

I am very much against "breedism." When I worked in the shelter, one year the 
highest incidence of dog bites occurred from -- you'll never guess -- 
Labrador Retrievers! Seems people buy this breed because of its great 
reputation (Fjord anyone?) as a safe family pet. Since of course they are 
born trained, the dog is inconsistently handled, not disciplined, and left 
unsupervised with young children. A recipe for disaster...



Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
Fjords 
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>Fjordings 
West



Re: Rottweilers

2003-03-04 Thread Bossmare
This message is from: "Bossmare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm not an expert on Rottweilers but I can share some observations regarding
our 140 lb. German Shepherd (neutered male).

He has the most fabulous disposition.  He has never growled or snapped at
anything including the cats.  However he has some herding and guarding
tendencies...tries to herd us at times, tries to herd the ponies who totally
ignore him.  He is also alert to anything he thinks is "wrong" including the
ponies rolling
or a child crying.  He barks at deer and turkeys but does not chase them.
They look at him knowing that.

He is wonderful with our grandchildren ranging in age from 6 to 12.  He is
taller than our youngest.  They can do almost anything with him and he is
incredibly good natured.  However, we do not leave small children alone with
him nor would I leave small children alone with any large dog of any breed
and especially if there would be a group of such dogs.  In that scenario
there is a pack dog mentality that seems to supercede an individual dog's
tendency for aggression but even in the one wonderful dog scenario there is
possibility of that dog becoming overly excited by a running or screaming
child and that can lead to a tendency to become dominant and perhaps act out
in normally uncharacteristic ways.  I have seen our wonderful dog get a
change of expression in his eyes when the kids get too boisterous and we
correct him on that.  Bottom line is that I simply would not leave small
children alone with any large dog.  Conversely for the sake of the dog I
would not leave small children alone with small dogs either.

Lois
- Original Message -
From: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fjord digest" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: Rottweilers


> This message is from: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hi everyoneWell it has been quite awhile since I have felt I had
> anything to say.(:  We have had a good but terribly cold winter.  Peppin
has
> grown and is the same height as Storm now.  He is two this month.  Both
> ponies are hanging onto their winter coats so far.  Randy took them one at
a
> time out on the road  in loose harness, this past Sunday. Both seem to be
> very quiet around the traffic. We hope to get an easy entry cart this
> spring.
> I have a  subject that is a bit off topic on Saturday, there was a dog
> attack in our neighbouring city  of St. John.  It seems, a 4 year old boy
> was mauled to death by 3 Rottweilers that had been staying at his home for
> the past 5 months. A friend of his fathers was the owner. The story goes
> that the child was supposed to be in the house while his dad was working
in
> the basement.  From what I can gather, he must have stepped outside, only
to
> be attacked and killed.  The boy and his dad also owned a Rottweiler of
> their own, but it was tied up on the veranda. The dogs, including the tied
> up innocent one were destroyed. I am noticably upset as anyone would
> be...but we just bought a Rottweiler female puppy before Christmas.  I
have
> searched the internet over and have not found that an unstable temperment
> is mentioned for these dogs.  Our puppy is extremely loveable and does not
> appear to have a mean bone in her body.  She is almost 5 months old.  Why
> would dogs suddenly gang up and attack a helpless child?  Is it something
> with this particular breed?  The authorities are trying to figure what
could
> have went wrong that this child was killed.  I am sitting here with mixed
> feelings about our puppy. Is it the way they are raised or are they like
> lions and tigers born with an instince to kill?  Do any of you out there
> have any of these dogs? What is everyones take on this?  I have a pair of
> little poodles and wonder if she is safe around them. She plays with the
> larger poodle and they appear to be pals. She is kept in the house with
us.
> I can honestly say, we have never owned a more lovable puppy.  Well take
> care everyone, Sue in N.B.  (Desert Storm's and Peppin's mom)



Re: Accepting Consignment Horses to sell at BDF -

2003-03-04 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia

We have two or three places available for consignment horses this summer.

If you have a high quality, nice Fjordhorse to sell, and need help doing it
. . . . Give us a call.

We're only interested in quality Fjords with no bad habits, or bad training.
It's not so vital that the horse is or is not trained.  The fact is that
we'd much rather get a horse with no training, than one that's been poorly
trained or mishandled.  Those horses are tough to rehabilitate!  And, most
owners do not want to pay for the necessary time it takes to turn around
such horses.

So, if you've got a really nice Fjord with no serious behavior problems, and
you need to sell . . .  Please call us!  We can do a wonderful job for you.
We have the customers!  ---  We have the facility!  ---  We have the staff
and trainers!  
Your nice Fjordhorse will be conditioned, trained, and shown to all our
Driving Vacation guests.  In addition, he'll figure in our extensive
advertising and on our beautiful, new website (coming very soon).  --

People tell us that the name of Beaver Dam Farm is synomonous with Quality
Fjordhorses.  We hope so as we've worked hard many long years to achieve
that recognition.  --  So, therefore, when a discriminating prospective
buyer starts to look for a Fjordhorse, it's very likely he'll be in touch
with us, and we try to maintain a few really good horses to satisfy these
customers.

If your Fjord is a good quality horse, we can get you a good price.  You
will be pleased with the job we'll do for you!

Kind Regards,  Carol Rivoire



Rottweilers

2003-03-04 Thread Sue
This message is from: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi everyoneWell it has been quite awhile since I have felt I had
anything to say.(:  We have had a good but terribly cold winter.  Peppin has
grown and is the same height as Storm now.  He is two this month.  Both
ponies are hanging onto their winter coats so far.  Randy took them one at a
time out on the road  in loose harness, this past Sunday. Both seem to be
very quiet around the traffic. We hope to get an easy entry cart this
spring.
I have a  subject that is a bit off topic on Saturday, there was a dog
attack in our neighbouring city  of St. John.  It seems, a 4 year old boy
was mauled to death by 3 Rottweilers that had been staying at his home for
the past 5 months. A friend of his fathers was the owner. The story goes
that the child was supposed to be in the house while his dad was working in
the basement.  From what I can gather, he must have stepped outside, only to
be attacked and killed.  The boy and his dad also owned a Rottweiler of
their own, but it was tied up on the veranda. The dogs, including the tied
up innocent one were destroyed. I am noticably upset as anyone would
be...but we just bought a Rottweiler female puppy before Christmas.  I have
searched the internet over and have not found that an unstable temperment
is mentioned for these dogs.  Our puppy is extremely loveable and does not
appear to have a mean bone in her body.  She is almost 5 months old.  Why
would dogs suddenly gang up and attack a helpless child?  Is it something
with this particular breed?  The authorities are trying to figure what could
have went wrong that this child was killed.  I am sitting here with mixed
feelings about our puppy. Is it the way they are raised or are they like
lions and tigers born with an instince to kill?  Do any of you out there
have any of these dogs? What is everyones take on this?  I have a pair of
little poodles and wonder if she is safe around them. She plays with the
larger poodle and they appear to be pals. She is kept in the house with us.
I can honestly say, we have never owned a more lovable puppy.  Well take
care everyone, Sue in N.B.  (Desert Storm's and Peppin's mom)



Re: So sorry I forgot to delete old messages

2003-03-04 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

.Hi from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm --

Apologies for clogging up the Digest by not deleting old messages.  

Carol



Fjord mare for sale

2003-03-04 Thread Nina Duncan
This message is from: "Nina Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Canadian Papered Fjord Mare for sale in Colorado. She is a 2000 model,
light dun.  Currently 13 hands, very quiet. Has been ridden bareback
for walks. Loves attention (and food) In Colorado. $3500/negotiable to
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SAS flights to Norway

2003-03-04 Thread Camptown Harness: David McWethy
This message is from: "Camptown Harness: David McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I saw this today and thought it might be of interest to anyone thinking of
going to the Norwegian evaluations this year:

SAS Scandinavian Airlines dumped its nonstop flights to Oslo, Norway,
shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But now the service is returning:
SAS will fly two-class 767s between Newark and Oslo six days a week
beginning on March 30. Daily service on the route begins May 10. SAS has
also posted some attractive advance-purchase fares to generate publicity for
the revived flights. For travel between April 1 and May 22, roundtrip fares
are as low as $449 on weekdays and $499 on weekends. Tickets must be
purchased by March 31 and a Saturday-night stay is required. Information:
800-221-2350.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #59

2003-03-04 Thread Reena Giola
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I don't know what is going on other then somehow I was put on digest without
signing up for it.   I went and signed up for individual email again but so
far haven't received it yet.

Fencing is a tough issue.   Especially with the Fjords.  Gustav knows he can
push over pipe corral panels, and so far has behaved himself in the wood
fenced pasture.but come spring?  all bets are off with the yummy grass
on the other side.I've made the owners aware of spots that are potential
'breakouts' and was assured hot wire will go up in those areas.

Our problems are water tanks getting frozen over..the float is getting
tipped over (why we don't knowhorses?  float old?  who knows) and twice
I've gone out to a tank with 3" ice on it, with the float upside down frozen
into it.   So, here I am, hammering the ice and breaking it up.Boarders
shouldn't have to be doing this.   Anyhow, it's a good thing I am extremely
anal and go CHECK all the time..

Reena and Gustav



Re: No List today?

2003-03-04 Thread HorseLotti
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Jean;

Maybe everyone is on "spring break" - haha!!  

Linda in MN



No List today?

2003-03-04 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, not a single message from the Fjordhorse list...I even checked the
archives to see if any were sent that I didn't get.  What's going on..Is
the Fjordlist "down"?

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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