Re: Differences between Fjords and Haflingers
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lois you make a good point about the cleanliness (or bathroom habits) of fjords. Probably not true of all but it is here. When my warmbloods are in the upper barn, rarely locked in stalls, I have poop detail as they poop all through the stalls and aisle. When I tire of this I shift them to the large field with run in and bring Gunnar up to the barn. What a nice vacation. He never messes in the barn, rarely locked in, and it stays so clean. Like a nice vacation. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
April 5, Troyer's Auction, Anyone know about this fjord...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, folks! This last April 5th, at the Brighton CO Troyer's Auction ... there was a fjord that was ranger ridden in the service. They had a picture of him on the Troyer's preview flyer mailed out to all subscribers. Anyone know how much he went for? I was sick at heart that I could not go --- not enough $$$ in the pocket to make even a remotely realistic bid! :-( I'd love to hear what I missed out on! Also, if you happened to have heard more about that particular - would love to hear about that too. Just wistful curiosity!:-) I live about 25 minutes south of Troyer's. Sher
RE: Team of Geldings for sale.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoever had the team of geldings on the other day - please contact this guy. He's serious about finding a good safe pair for himself & his family. Tristan Klesick < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What a long strange trip it's been (Also single marathon carriage for sale&monthly learn to drive clinics in VT
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vivian Creigh wrote: This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I have just returned from the "sunny south". Olympia "Mira" and the Corgi and I have been away from the farm for over two months. Daughter Wes was with me for two events and husband Sam filled in for the varsity at the last two. I will write this in two installments so for those of you who couldn't care less when you run across my next post just hit delete. I decided that this incredible little mare needed some serious one on one attention to fully develop her amazing talents. Week and a half weeks then off to Georgia Iwill continue the saga in my next installment, but in the meantime... -- Hi Vivian, I love hearing of your accomplishments and thank you for taking the time to post them to the list. I can't wait to read chapter two. Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
RE: Two for the price of one? (long)
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, Congratulations on your latest additions to your herd! Taffy Mercer
RE: Delia's Fjord goodies
This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sher, >I like your bust portrait, very pretty!< I didn't do the watercolor (I'm not that talented!), a gal named Delia did it. I found the site while looking for Fjord items for the PNFPG sales booth at Libby. I used the Café Press site to locate Delia's web site and saw her other paintings, too. The woman is very talented. Taffy Mercer Subject: Re: Delia's Fjord goodies This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for posting aboutwww.cafeshops.com/equinepalace3 and Delia's fjord goodies, Taffy! I just make line drawn cartoons --- couldn't paint photo-like pictures for my life! (grin) I like your bust protrait, very pretty! And about half the things she puts it on, I'd like to get myself. :-)So I book marked her site - will be sending in a order in May (right now, saving up for a stock trailer, so have to wait for May when I have more "fun money" freed up again!) Sher
Re: Delia's Fjord goodies
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for posting aboutwww.cafeshops.com/equinepalace3 and Delia's fjord goodies, Taffy! I just make line drawn cartoons --- couldn't paint photo-like pictures for my life! (grin) I like your bust protrait, very pretty! And about half the things she puts it on, I'd like to get myself. :-)So I book marked her site - will be sending in a order in May (right now, saving up for a stock trailer, so have to wait for May when I have more "fun money" freed up again!) Sher
Re: Two for the price of one? (long)
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations! I thought Rinska would be the one I would get if I had been able to go to the auction ( actually don't need any more truthfully) I liked her bloodlines and her looks from the picture on Starfire website. Sounds like the foal is doing fine. Enjoy them! Jean in messy Fairbanks, Alaska, sloppy breakup, water everywhere! The filly was helped off the trailer and put down in the yard and >once she got her land legs she was racing around the yard bucking and >kicking. > >We had the vet out today. He checked Rinska out and she is fine. He >gave baby an enema, drew blood, put her on antibiotics (precautionary >until we get blood test results) and is worried she might colic. She >seems to be doing fine though. She's pretty active and very friendly. >So, we're keeping our fingers crossed. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: working 3 year olds (LONG reply)
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>thanks for the very detailed explanation of bone
>development. My question is, what is the consequences of
>work at too young an age, and exactly what is 'too much'?
That is a question you should ask Dr. Deb Bennett in her Equine Studies
Forum: http://www.equinestudies.org/board/?topic=topic1 She would probably
to tell you to read the section on conformation!
Down further in this same discussion here is some of what she said: (I have
tried to "concentrate" her discussion to cut the length)
from http://www.equinestudies.org/conformation.htm
Dr. Deb said:
Now, let's turn to the second discussion, which is what I mean by
"starting" and the whole history of that. Many people today - at least in
our privileged country -- do not realize how hard you can actually work a
horse -which is very, very hard. But before you can do that without
significantly damaging the animal, you have to wait for him to mature,
which means - waiting until he is four to six years old before asking him
to carry you on his back. What bad will happen if you put him to work as a
riding horse before that? Two important things - and
probably not what you're thinking of. What is very UNlikely to happen is
that you'll damage the growth plates in his legs. At the worst, there may
be some crushing of the cartilages, but the number of cases of deformed
limbs due to early use is tiny. More likely is that you'll cause
structural damage to his back. There are some bloodlines (in Standardbreds,
Arabians, and American Saddlebreds) known to inherit weak deep
intervertebral ligament sheathing; these
animals are especially prone to the early, sudden onset of "saddle back".
However, individuals belonging to these bloodlines are by no means the only
ones who may have their back "slip" and that's because, as mentioned above,
the stress of weightbearing on the back passes parallel to the growth
plates as well as the intervertebral joints. However, I want to add that
the frequency of slipped backs in horses under 6 years old is also very low.
So, what's to worry about? Well...did you ever wish your horse would "round
up" a little better? Collect a little better? Respond to your leg by
raising his back, coiling his loins, and getting his hindquarter up
underneath him a little better? The young horse knows, by feel and by
"instinct", that having a weight on his back puts him in physical jeopardy.
... so when your foot goes in that stirrup, he takes measures to
protect himself.
The measures he takes are the same ones YOU would take in anticipation of a
load coming onto your back: he stiffens or braces the muscles of his
topline, and to help himself do that he may also brace his legs and hold
his breath ("brace" his diaphragm). The earlier you choose to ride your
horse, the more the animal will do this, and the more often you ride him
young, the more you reinforce in his mind the necessity of responding to
you in this way. So please - don't come crying to me when your 6 year old
(that was started under saddle as a two year old) proves difficult to round
up! If he does not know how to move with his back muscles in release, he
CANNOT round up!!
So - bottom line - if you are one of those who equates "starting" with
"riding," then I guess you better not start your horse until he's four.
That would be the old, traditional, worldwide view: introduce the horse to
equipment (all kinds of equipment and situations) when he's two, crawl on
and off of him at three, saddle him to begin riding him and teaching him to
guide at four, start teaching him maneuvers or the basics of whatever job
he's going to do - cavalletti or stops or something beyond trailing cattle
- at five, and he's on the payroll at 6.
..snip
When I say "start" a horse I do NOT equate that with riding him. .
You, have the following as a minimum list of "things to accomplish"
together with your young horse before he's four years old when you DO start
him under saddle:
1. Comfortable being touched all over. COMFORTABLE not put-upon or
tolerate, but comfortable as in man he
really looks forward to it.
2. This includes interior of mouth, muzzle, jowls, ears, sheath/udder,
tail, front feet and hind feet. Pick 'em up
and they should be floppy.
3. Knows how to lead up. No fear; no drag in the feet.
4. Manners enough to lead at your shoulder, stop or go when he sees your
body get ready to stop or go; if
spooks does not jump toward or onto you, will not violate your space unless
specifically invited to do so.
5. Leads through gate or into stall without charging.
6. Knows how to tie and knows what his options are when tied.
7. Ponies.
8. Carries smooth nonleverage bit in mouth. Lowers head and opens mouth
when asked; bit can be removed
without horse throwing his head up.
9. Will work with a drag (tarp, sack half filled with sand, light tire, or
sledge and harness)
10. Mounts drum or sturdy stand with front
Two for the price of one? (long)
This message is from: Michael H Melbye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy everyone, I'm a long time lurker of the list and have thoroughly enjoyed all the stories and info everyone has shared. But I guess it's time I post my own. Well, it started a few months ago. I saw Tim Hamlett's ad in the Herald about selling his horses. I knew he owned A.S. Rinska and was kicking around the idea of contacting him about buying her, but never did. Then, I saw the post about his horses going to the Waverly auction and decided if I was going to act, I better do something now. So, I contacted a member of the list that I knew was going to the auction and contracted them to purchase Rinska and board her until transportation could be arranged. A.S. Rinska by Modellen (white dun) out of Tilly (German import red dun) was bred to Grabbson on August 28th (we were told). Our contractor won the bid on her, took Rinska to their farm and has had her up until the transport company picked her up last Thursday. So, finally, Rinska is on her way home. Now it gets sticky. The transport company was scheduled for a 2 day layover in Billings, MT to give the horses coming from the East Coast a break. They stopped sometime late Friday/early Saturday. Well, Sunday morning we got a call from a very frantic transport company. Rinska had her foal. Needless to say, everyone was very surprised! So, we missed the birth of our first baby! The filly was full term, so obviously Rinska was bred before August 28th. Rinska and filly finally arrived at our farm around 2 PM, Tuesday. Rinska didn't get 10 feet off the trailer and was bending down to eat grass. The filly was helped off the trailer and put down in the yard and once she got her land legs she was racing around the yard bucking and kicking. We had the vet out today. He checked Rinska out and she is fine. He gave baby an enema, drew blood, put her on antibiotics (precautionary until we get blood test results) and is worried she might colic. She seems to be doing fine though. She's pretty active and very friendly. So, we're keeping our fingers crossed. Michael Melbye 15411 Tubbs Rd. E. Buckley, WA 98321 [360] 897-8212 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
