Re: help

2003-12-04 Thread whitedvm
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Debbie,

Give a shot of banamine each time you give the vaccination.  It should
prevent the colic.  I have a couple horses in my practice that do this.

Steve

Steve White, DVM
Sport Horse Veterinary Service
Gretna, NE



NO POOPY STALLS HERE

2003-12-04 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 12/4/03 1:00:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< They do not poop in the other stalls.  I clean
 that (poop'n) stall everyday, yuk!  I have 4 acres that they can poop in, but
 no, they want that special stall.
 
 There has to be solution! >>

Hi Linda !   I can help , but you need to be willing to make the changes. 
OK, here go's. I have a new ( this year ) barn. Barnmaster, raised center 
roof, skylights over every stall, 16 ft center, tack room, feed room ect. All 
concrete center, gravel, dirt, floors in stalls, with almost 4 in mats now.  
There was no way I wanted to deal with poop pens for stalls, as every stall has 
a 
run outside, with the 4 on the ends extra big paddocks. Horses use stalls for 
litter box's when given a chance. So, I didnt give them a chance. For weeks ( 
WEEKS ) they were all LOCKED OUTSIDE. ( Yes it was Dec. in UTAH, and very 
cold, snow ect.) are you KIDDING ? They were happy as clams. ( Fjords 
right ? ) They are born in Norway, in the snow, some of mine came from 
Minnesota, 
where you had to FORCE them inside for water, once a day, otherwise content to 
hang outside in 30* below windchill.. Anyway, our winters here in 
Southern UTAH are very mild, and they always like it outdoors given the chance. 

   So, for weeks they pooped outside. They developed their own poop place on 
the outside of their stalls. They are creatures of habit. Once they start 
pooping in a specific spot, USUALLY they keep doing their business there. After 
they had firmly soaked and distroyed a spot outside, they were allowed INSIDE 
for meals. Then, locked out again. None of them changed their poop place from 
outside, and a few weeks later, I had them all with 24 hr. in-or-out-by-choice, 
all urinating and pooping in their " old " outdoor spots. NowI have 
changed around whos inside the barn, with youngsters comming in for a few weeks 
at a 
time for new lessons, then headed back outside with gang of  3 and under 
monsters to grow up. Only one stubborn filly insisted on pooping in her stall. 
The 
other newbies smelled  or noticed the old places outside and graced the 
spots with their own piles. ( we clean stalls every day, thats what 15 yr old 
sons are for ) Interestingly enough, this fillys MOTHER was a total PIG in a 
stall, and was my only failure yet at teaching outdoor pooping with 19 here 
currently. Her MOTHER had lived ( and pooped alot ) in the same stall while 
living 
here, ( yes its LUPIN, Catherine ! ) and her filly was finally totally tossed 
out of the delux living, and now just gets tied up for lessons ( she hobbles 
really well though  ) All other stalls remain poopless. Same worked for my 
stallion barn, where both of my studs live side by side, and both poop out 
back. Both will urinate in their stalls, but stand on mats, covered with 
shavings, so no poop scooping, and easy wet spot removal with every 2 week 
stripping 
for new shavings. Even my mares have trained the babies of the " rules ", and 
people think that I constantly clean stalls, as always clean, fresh and simply 
dirt or mats. HA. 

   Hope this works for you..unless you live in Alaska ( Jean ! ) 
or Nova S. ( Carol ) Im thinking that their winter comfort is more for you 
than them !   GOOD-LUCK !Lisa Pedersen * in warm Cedar City, around 58 
today.nice weather to roach off all manes for the winter !



Re: I have a problem

2003-12-04 Thread lindalee
This message is from: "lindalee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Danielle,

Well, now I know my Fjords aren't alone in their daily constitution.

Thanks,

Linda
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From: "Danielle Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: I have a problem


> This message is from: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> My Fjord is the same way. If I give them hay outside they go poop inside
> but if I fed them inside then the would go poop outside( until it got cold
> out) They each have their own stall that they have access to all day (
> dutch doors)and the seem to use one stall to sleep in and one to poop in!
> Which wouldnt be a problem If my fjord didnt make such a mess! I almost
> have to strip the stall bare for them to be clean!! So much for not
> wasting shavings!!!



Another Oops, sort of.

2003-12-04 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lunner Graen, the First in Quality among 5-year- olds at Nordfjordeid this
Spring, is our Vilde's paternal uncle. Vilde's sire, Takklar, is a
half-brother to Lunner Graen.

Vilde, by the way, appears to be all better. Yea! Now we can stop compulsively
examining her poop.

Ain't horsekeeping fun...?

Bye,

Peg
www.elltel.net/kffjord/



Oops....

2003-12-04 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all -

Patti Jo has very tactfully pointed out that I left out the final step in
reaching the photos of the stallions at Nordfjordeid this May.

Once you have reached "Bildearkivet," then select "Hingsteutstilling
Nordfjordeid 2003." That works.

Sorry,

Peg
www.elltel.net/kffjord/



Re: I have a problem

2003-12-04 Thread Danielle Campbell
This message is from: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My Fjord is the same way. If I give them hay outside they go poop inside
but if I fed them inside then the would go poop outside( until it got cold
out) They each have their own stall that they have access to all day (
dutch doors)and the seem to use one stall to sleep in and one to poop in!
Which wouldnt be a problem If my fjord didnt make such a mess! I almost
have to strip the stall bare for them to be clean!! So much for not
wasting shavings!!!



Re: (no subject)

2003-12-04 Thread lindalee
This message is from: "lindalee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Linda Lottie, you do see the positive side!

Thanks for the response.

Linda
Biggs
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Subject: Re: (no subject)


> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Linda,
>
> I think you are lucky they poop in one stall...could be worse.you
could have to clean all three stalls.  I clean 5 stalls a day:)  My fjords
seem to prefer to do their business outsidebut the QH and
App..UFFDA
>
> Linda Lottie in MN



Re: (no subject)

2003-12-04 Thread HorseLotti
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Linda,

I think you are lucky they poop in one stall...could be worse.you could 
have to clean all three stalls.  I clean 5 stalls a day:)  My fjords seem to 
prefer to do their business outsidebut the QH and App..UFFDA  

Linda Lottie in MN



Fw: TWO - Very well trained Geldings For Sale

2003-12-04 Thread Patti Jo & David Walter
This message is from: "Patti Jo & David Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Don't think this wen thru the first time, gonna try again. Sorry if anyone
got duplicates.- patti

> Hi List,
>
> Just thought I'd spead the news on two VERY nice and VERY well trained
Fjord
> Geldings that have just gone on the market for sale.  The owner has asked
me
> to help her sell the horses.  She is rather busy and so all inquiries can
go
> thru me.  The horses are in the Milwaukee WI area.  I know both horses
very
> well and the owner.
> The first is Oslo Gull, or "Oz".  Oz is a tall Fjord, 15+hh, wonderful
> movement and very very smooth.  He has competed in schooling dressage
shows
> and scored in the upper 60's. He is SUPER light in the bridle.  Oz has
been
> out on the trails and even trained in western.  He has impecible ground
> manners, NOT pushy at all.  He is a solid 1st level in his dressage
> training.  He is 8 yrs old and you can see of picture on him on the nfhr
> website.  100% sound and heathly $9500
>
> The second is a red dun 14hh solid bodied gelding named North Creek Bjoge
or
> "Bogie".  Bogie is currently used as a therapy horse for disabled
children.
> He never makes a wrong move with them, he knows he is carrying precious
> cargo.  He also is ridden by his owner in dressage and is also a solid 1st
> level horse.  Bogie has been to the Midwest Horse Fair in Madison Wi, been
> in parades, open shows and on trail rides.  Bogie has been trained to
drive
> in the past but has not been hitched in several years, it would not take
> much to get him driving again.  Bogie is 11 yrs old.  He is very brave and
a
> fun horse to ride.  He does like to "go" out on the trails, he is not a
> pokey little pony.100% sound and healthy $9500
> Both horses have had the best of care.  They are in excellent
> shape/condition.  The owner is getting old of horses.  She would like to
> find the right people for her very beloved horses.  You can see their
> pedigree on the nfhr website as well.
>
> These are very nice horses and the price reflects that.  It takes a lot of
> time, talent and money to get horses trained well.  I know a lot of people
> want cheap horses but you usually get what you pay for and it's usually a
> young horse that is not trained or one with problems.  So if you are
looking
> for a Fjord or know of one who is, tell them about these two.  Just think
> how nice it would be to just get one that is finished and ready to do
> whatever it is you ask. :-)
>
> Patti Jo Walter
> Francis Creek Fjords
> Two Rivers WI -where I hate to say it, but I'm wanting SNOW. The ground is
> just too hard, lets put some white stuff on it to put a layer of soft
stuff.
> :-)



TWO - Very well trained Geldings For Sale

2003-12-04 Thread Patti Jo & David Walter
This message is from: "Patti Jo & David Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi List,

Just thought I'd spead the news on two VERY nice and VERY well trained Fjord
Geldings that have just gone on the market for sale.  The owner has asked me
to help her sell the horses.  She is rather busy and so all inquiries can go
thru me.  The horses are in the Milwaukee WI area.  I know both horses very
well and the owner.
The first is Oslo Gull, or "Oz".  Oz is a tall Fjord, 15+hh, wonderful
movement and very very smooth.  He has competed in schooling dressage shows
and scored in the upper 60's. He is SUPER light in the bridle.  Oz has been
out on the trails and even trained in western.  He has impecible ground
manners, NOT pushy at all.  He is a solid 1st level in his dressage
training.  He is 8 yrs old and you can see of picture on him on the nfhr
website.  100% sound and heathly $9500

The second is a red dun 14hh solid bodied gelding named North Creek Bjoge or
"Bogie".  Bogie is currently used as a therapy horse for disabled children.
He never makes a wrong move with them, he knows he is carrying precious
cargo.  He also is ridden by his owner in dressage and is also a solid 1st
level horse.  Bogie has been to the Midwest Horse Fair in Madison Wi, been
in parades, open shows and on trail rides.  Bogie has been trained to drive
in the past but has not been hitched in several years, it would not take
much to get him driving again.  Bogie is 11 yrs old.  He is very brave and a
fun horse to ride.  He does like to "go" out on the trails, he is not a
pokey little pony.100% sound and healthy $9500
Both horses have had the best of care.  They are in excellent
shape/condition.  The owner is getting old of horses.  She would like to
find the right people for her very beloved horses.  You can see their
pedigree on the nfhr website as well.

These are very nice horses and the price reflects that.  It takes a lot of
time, talent and money to get horses trained well.  I know a lot of people
want cheap horses but you usually get what you pay for and it's usually a
young horse that is not trained or one with problems.  So if you are looking
for a Fjord or know of one who is, tell them about these two.  Just think
how nice it would be to just get one that is finished and ready to do
whatever it is you ask. :-)

Patti Jo Walter
Francis Creek Fjords
Two Rivers WI -where I hate to say it, but I'm wanting SNOW. The ground is
just too hard, lets put some white stuff on it to put a layer of soft stuff.
:-)



Re: Fjord Christmas cards

2003-12-04 Thread Carol J. Makosky

This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jean Ernest wrote:


This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

look at the Mischka Farm Christmas cards:  There is a really nice Fjord
card!  http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/StoreFront.bok

 


Hi,
I have that card all done up and framed.  You should go to the artists 
website and see the other Fjord pictures he has.  I love his work.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



RE: help

2003-12-04 Thread Debbie Shade

This message is from: "Debbie Shade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I was wondering if anyone has experienced this and has any suggestions. My 
mare is in foal and twice she had coliced 3-4 days after her pneumebort 
shot. She also coliced once 4 days after her shot at her last pregnancy. So 
no more shots for her as the correlation is to obvious.

Debbie in MA

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Missing Missy Yenna

2003-12-04 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi -

The other evening I experienced a little excitement - well, OK, fear - OK,
abject terror - when I returned from errands in town just before 6 pm. It was
dark by then and I went out to call all the mares in from the pasture for
their grain in the paddocks. Sadie, Vilde, and Yuli trotted up eagerly, as
usual.

No Yenna. Very unusual.

I let the girls into their paddocks and started to walk the pasture. I could
see a little because of the reflection from the snow on the ground, but didn't
have my flashlight with me. I reached the end. No Yenna. Since her winter coat
is pretty white, I thought I might have missed her and quartered my way back
to the barn. Every lump in the snow set my heart racing! Could she have
slipped in the snow and broken a leg? I could have become an adrenaline donor
at that point!

Next step - feed the three mares who were in, then get the flashlight, halter,
and lantern.

Just as I am ready to set out - guess who casually strolls through the open
barn door, saying in horse, "Well, you called. Where's mine?"  This time I
closed the barn door [which is not accessible from the pasture] after the
horse was in! Yenna, clever girl that she is, had discovered before we did
that the fence charger had committed suicide, and had taken full Fjord
advantage of that fact. She must have been dainty about it, since none of the
wires was misplaced.

Moral? Not sure there is one, but do be sure to protect your charger from the
elements as much as possible. The world does not need more adrenaline

Bye,

Peg
www.elltel.net/kffjord/



Re: Fjord Christmas cards

2003-12-04 Thread Sofia jagbrant
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

When we talk Christmas card I most say, that I have done free e-mail
Christmas cards, with only fjordhorses. Look and send them here:
http://pub41.bravenet.com/postcard/post.php?usernum=3488477321

I hope somebody enjoy them :-)

Best "soon Chrismas" regards Sofia

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From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:53 PM
Subject: Fjord Christmas cards


> This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> look at the Mischka Farm Christmas cards:  There is a really nice Fjord
> card!  http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/StoreFront.bok
> It may be a little late to get them and send out, but I'm going to order
> some anyway (never get my cards out till after Christmas anyway) and they
> will be good for next year!
>
> "Dinner Call"   by Artist Robert Duncan.
>
http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/Detail.bok?searchpath=ac14010bf9425a3f06ee
> &category=Christmas+Cards&start=1&total=13&no=84
>
> The other cards are nice also (even if they don't have Fjords on them!
>
> Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, warmed up to 0 degrees F, seems balmy in
> contrast to two days ago when it was -40F
>
>
> 
> Jean Ernest
> Fairbanks, Alaska
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Norwegian web sites

2003-12-04 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all -

There some wonderful candid pictures of the stallions from last year's show at
Nordfjordeid. To see them, go to the NFHR site and select Links. Once there,
choose "Norges Fjordhestlag," then "Formedlemmene," then "Bildearkivet." There
are 6 pages of photos. First in Quality of each age level is shown - Rannar, 8
years and older; Lunner Graen, 5 years old; and Fiskarguten, 3 years old. Any
horse described as having "ikke kara" did not qualify for a ribbon and
permission to be used as a stud. The pictures will enlarge if you click on
them.

There are also some nice pictures of the colors of Fjord horses at "Norges
Fjordhestlag." On the first page choose "Fjordhesten" from the side bar, then
"Rasebeskrivelse." Way cool!

Enjoy!

Peg
www.elltel.net/kffjord/



Fjord Christmas cards

2003-12-04 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

look at the Mischka Farm Christmas cards:  There is a really nice Fjord
card!  http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/StoreFront.bok
It may be a little late to get them and send out, but I'm going to order
some anyway (never get my cards out till after Christmas anyway) and they
will be good for next year!

"Dinner Call"   by Artist Robert Duncan.
http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/Detail.bok?searchpath=ac14010bf9425a3f06ee
&category=Christmas+Cards&start=1&total=13&no=84

The other cards are nice also (even if they don't have Fjords on them!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, warmed up to 0 degrees F, seems balmy in
contrast to two days ago when it was -40F



Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[no subject]

2003-12-04 Thread Linda Thornsberry
This message is from: "Linda Thornsberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a problem:

I have three stalls that my horses can get into.  One stalls seems to be there
poop'n stall.  Is there something I can put on the cement floor that will make
them STOP poop'n in there?  They do not poop in the other stalls.  I clean
that (poop'n) stall everyday, yuk!  I have 4 acres that they can poop in, but
no, they want that special stall.

There has to be solution!

I know someone will say, just lock them out of that stall, but it is winter
and they need to get in there to get out of the weather.

Thanks
Linda