Re: last chance for Fjord size tack

2004-02-06 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Hi Everyone-

I haven't had any bids on these Western headstalls so I lowered the price. I 
need to move this stuff and would like to see it go to another Fjord owner! 

 

They look like nice items, but I will stick to my English bridle with 
the western saddle.  LOL  I don't ride that much to warrant another 
purchase.  Getting a cart custom made that will come with runners for 
winter. 


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



Re: Log Skid construction

2004-02-06 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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The Mercers wrote:


This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I never received a single reply to this question.  Is there anyone out there
who can help me with this?

 


Hi Taffy,
Well.  I'm certainly no authority on this and maybe we are not quite 
sure what you are seeking.  Are you just wondering how to hook some logs 
together for skiding?  I've only done it a couple of times and just put 
a chain around  one end  of a resonable size load and away we went.  I 
also tried to haul a too large oak log and she just simply refuse to 
pull, but then Heidi had not any training for this either.  So hubby cut 
it in half and she was fine with that.  Then there was another time when 
she skidded one down the smooth, plowed drive and refused to go any 
further than the front of the garage.  So I dropped the lines went into 
the house, grabbed the nearest whip (dressage) came back out and warmed 
up her butt.  All of a sudden Heidi decided to skid that log further.  
Well  I hope this is the information you are seeking.  Hey Joel.  
Haven't heard from you in awhile and am sure you could be more of an 
expert in this area.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



last chance for Fjord size tack

2004-02-06 Thread Epona1971
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Hi Everyone-

I haven't had any bids on these Western headstalls so I lowered the price. I 
need to move this stuff and would like to see it go to another Fjord owner! 
Auction ends in approx. 1 day.

Brigid


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3659090744&category=47290&s
spagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3659097061&category=47290&s
spagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3658619774&category=16248&s
spagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1



RE: Log Skid construction

2004-02-06 Thread The Mercers
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I never received a single reply to this question.  Is there anyone out there
who can help me with this?

Thanks,

Taffy Mercer


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Subject: Log Skid construction

This message is from: "The Mercers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone have a diagram on how to make a log skid?  None of the
information I have shows how the logs are hooked together or hooked to the
singletree.  The rules specify a length but is there a specified diameter
anywhere?

Thanks,

Taffy Mercer
In Kennewick, WA where the sun actually came out of hiding yesterday!



Re: What is it about Fjords?

2004-02-06 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 2/6/2004 3:29:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But, I had to keep a firm rein on him at
such times, as he has been known to try to "frisk" passing backpacks
for apples or carrots.

Marsha, this reminds me of Tommes. I got the same interest from passersby 
when I would trail ride in Half Moon Bay. I had to ride a mile or so down a 
street to get to the park. Cars would come skidding to a halt, windows would 
open, 
and the smiling heads of children would pop out. I would always stop to talk, 
and curious Tommes would sniff the driver who responded by petting him. After 
a while he developed an unnatural interest in cars ;-) When they stopped, he 
would insert his entire head into the cab for a pet. He would insist on 
approaching any parked car and licking the window to see if some friendly 
person 
might be there! 


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



A new fjord addict (Re: what is it about those Fjords?)

2004-02-06 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"I think that part of it is the "neo-natal" look---big eyes, round
cheeks (jowls), and generally rounded body contours.  The unusual mane
coloring and "punk" hairdo also makes them somewhat appealing.  And,
of course there's that Fjord attitude"

One of my favorite pastimes is showing off Quinn to people on the trail, at
shows and to people visiting the barn. Last week I met a girl who is in the
area just for a while as a traveling nurse, she's been riding regularly
before and was just looking for a place to hang out with horses. So I
invited her to come back Wednesday and help with mine, since the barn
owner/instructor had not returned her call.

So Wednesday we walked through the mud (heavy rain this week) out to the
pasture gate and called Quinn. He was asleep on top of the hill, with fjord
friend Tinn standing watch. After calling him a few times, he woke up and
looked at us, then slowly got to his feet. Then he remembered all the green
grass outside the pasture gate (or how much he likes me, I'm assuming the
first) and came trotting and slipping FAST down the hill in the foot-deep
mud before stopping by the gate with a smile on his face!

We took him out and inspected the thick layer of caked mud (clay) covering
his ENTIRE body - he hadn't missed one spot. Then we brought him into the
barn and started scraping the dry mud/clay off with various metal
instruments. My visitor was amazed that he didn't object to the rough
handling - we were literally pulling his fur out. Of course the shedding
helps. After an hour or so, he was almost fjord color again, and he had
completely charmed our visitor. I could tell she was dying to ride, so
although the arena footing was useless, I saddled him up and took them out
on the road - luckily we have very little traffic by the barn. Her eyes were
shining when she got in the saddle, and when he started moving she broke
into a huge smile. At first he was very gentle with her (slow) but then he
realized that she knew what she was doing and started walking briskly. She
was amazed that he, instead of spooking (lots of scary objects by our road),
just had a general "hm, let me check this out" - attitude. He always wanted
to go towards the scary things rather than away from them!

After a while, I was jogging in front and they were trotting steadily behind
me. She kept praising Quinn and just couldn't get over his attitude, his
comfortable movement, the stripe in his mane etc. I was more than willing to
share fjord info, so this gal is pretty educated on fjords by now. I don't
think she'd even seen one before! Well, she sure won't forget them anytime
soon! Yay! New fjord addict. She seemed to have decided already that when
she settles down somewhere, and if she can have a horse, she will want a
fjord.

By the way, I have a new, very promising potential buyer for Quinn. She is
about my age or so (30) and wants a horse to have fun with on the trails, to
drive, for her husband to ride etc. She already owns a holstein/TB mare and
a Dutch Warmblood jumper, and she would do some dressage and jumping with
him, too, and she liked the idea of bringing Quinn to jumper shows together
with her warmblood! Sounds like a great match - they're clearly animal
lovers (their pets have websites: www.goldengaits.net) and I really like
her. She's coming back Sunday to have her husband ride and for her to take
him over some jumps etc. She is a brilliant rider. The other family with the
little girls are still considering the idea of a fjord vs a fancy hunter
show pony, and I don't have time to wait any longer, since I'm flying to
Norway March 4 and must sell very soon. I still haven't advertised him
extensively, and most of my enquiries about him come from the ad extracted
from this list on fjordworld.com!

If anyone wants a real nice grey 7 yo TB(?) mare she's for sale, too. I have
a few prospect buyers coming this weekend. She's green and not exactly
bombproof under saddle yet. But very talented: www.shannon.htmlplanet.com

Oh, and a car:
http://www.cars.com/search/used/cc/standard/results/single/ld/detail.jhtml?p
aId=139829980&aff=national&src=&cid=null

(low fjord content in the last two links)

Will send updates on how things go. Strangely, it seems like selling horses
isn't that sad if you find a great home for them!


That's it for now from Dagrun in San Jose, Ca



Re: What is it about Fjords?

2004-02-06 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [...] how taken I was
> with Fjords when I first saw them, and how my 7 yr old
> son was totally afraid of horses until we bought
> Harrison Fjord  [...]   My friend [...]
> said "I'm not one who is
> usually taken with horses.  I can take them or leave
> them, but this horse is just sooo cute.  [...]
> Do others of you have similiar experiences?

My first equine was my pinto donkey, but I eventually started looking
for a riding horse, to indulge my childhood love of horses.  I saw a
Fjord at a CDE, where the prevailing sentiment was, "He's so cute, I
just want to put him in my pocket and take him home with me!"  (This
from a fox-hunting lover of "blood horses"!)  I started to look into
Fjords, and mentioned my interest to the breeder of my donkey.  To my
surprise, she confided that, although she generally didn't like
horses, she had met a herd of Fjords when she was visiting another
breeder of pinto donkeys, and thought those were really sweet horses!

For years, we trail-rode our Fjord geldings on an Open Space Preserve
adjacent to our property (in the San Francisco Bay Area).  Suburban
hikers seeing us coming would grumpily step off of the trail (local
rules), and glare at our neighbor/trainer on her Arab (who liked to be
first in line).  Then they'd look with interest at my husband on his
Fjord, and often gather around me on my Fjord, cooing and petting him.
Sleepy has big friendly brown eyes, and a general look about him that
invites "pet me".  I sometimes call him my Teddy-Pony, especially when
he's in that early stage of winter coat growth that makes his fur feel
like a plush stuffed toy.  But, I had to keep a firm rein on him at
such times, as he has been known to try to "frisk" passing backpacks
for apples or carrots.

I think that part of it is the "neo-natal" look---big eyes, round
cheeks (jowls), and generally rounded body contours.  The unusual mane
coloring and "punk" hairdo also makes them somewhat appealing.  And,
of course there's that Fjord attitude

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Re: old fjords

2004-02-06 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> "Katherine Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Regarding Cushing's disease in older Fjords, does anyone know 
> whether the breed, or any particular bloodlines, are prone to it?  I 
> lost my beloved Morgan mare to Cushing's at age 20 (her, not me) 
> and have since learned that Morgans seem to be prone to the 
> disease.   

I recently stumbled across a very interesting web site, 

http://www.safergrass.org/

which talks about the links amongst high-sugar forages, insulin-
resistance, and laminitis.

In passing, it mentions that some cases thought to be Cushings are in
fact mis-diagnosed cases of insulin resistance.  And, it states:

Certain breeds are more prone to insulin resistance and diet
related founder. There is no extensive epidemiological data on
breeds, but vets and farriers specializing in treatment of founder
are putting a lot of antocedol evidence together. More susceptible
breeds include: all pony breeds,[1] including Icelandics and
Norwegian Fiords, Arabs, especially those of Egyptian lines,
Morgans, gaited horses including Walkers, Foxtrotters, Paso Finos,
mini's, mustangs or Indian ponies. Note these are generally breeds
known for being easy keepers, and who were naturally genetically
selected to survive best in deserts or areas with harsh
environments where good feed was hard to come by.

As for age, 

Intolerance to sugar may develop in aging horses, just as it does
in humans. In a study by Ralston [25] of geriatric horses, over
70% of the horses over the age of 20 had signs of altered glucose
metabolism.

This site is not an easy read, but it gave me a lot of insight into
why there is such a high incidence of winter grass founder in equines
in this area.  The short version is that "modern" grass (hence hay)
breeding has been optimized for fat beef cattle and high-cream dairy
cattle, which is probably not the best feed for "air fern" equines.

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Re: What is it about Fjords?

2004-02-06 Thread jgayle
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My grumpy Gunnar is in a pasture by the street and every so often people
will stop and ask what he is.  "He is so cute" "I just want to hug him
(Gunnar would be embarrassed), can you ride him?  Etc.  He is a muddy mess,
rarely under cover so rarely groomed at this time of year and his mane is
now flopped over and long.!   Jean G   PS A friend of mine is coming
today to work him, first in two years, and then I hope to get back on.  He
is extremely reliable under saddle but because of the time since last ridden
I thought it better to have him worked a bit.  He will be angry about this
but cooperative!!!





Author
"The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 46-49
Send $20 to:
PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Re: Harrison Fjord

2004-02-06 Thread jgayle
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi, "Horses sure are funny" is true but there also seems to most often be a
dominant one.  And the others seem to accept.   Jean G




Author
"The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 46-49
Send $20 to:
PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Driving vacations in Bavaria

2004-02-06 Thread Linda Lehnert
This message is from: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I put the word out on the Eurohorse list and a German lady who lives in
Stuttgart suggested you try Pferd und Reiter, an agency that specializes
in riding and driving vacations.  Their website is: 
http://www.pferdreiter.de  It is in German, but you can translate it on
Google.  She said she has gone on several riding vacations with this
agency and has found that their descriptions on the website and in their
catalog to be very accurate. The price will be in Euros (and the dollar
is in the toilet these days, much to my dismay).  Sometimes
Wuelfershausen has special driving courses, but they are in Thueringen in
East Germany, not Bavaria.  They have Fjords and this is where the
national Fjord show is held.  It's a great place and near Erfurt and
Eisenach for sightseeing.  Their website is http://www.wuelfershausen.de  I
have found that the German riding vacation agencies have alot more
listings for Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland
than the US ones.You can also get on the internet and search for driving
vacations in Bavaria. Good luck in your search.  I'm sure you will be
able to find something between these. Linda in Lindenfels in der
Odenwald, Hessen



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What is it about Fjords?

2004-02-06 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I believe I've shared with the list how taken I was
with Fjords when I first saw them, and how my 7 yr old
son was totally afraid of horses until we bought
Harrison Fjord and is now taking lessons.  I had
another interesting experience along those lines last
week.  A friend stopped by and the children were very
excited to show her our horses.  My friend simply
could not stop talking about Harrison.  The children
tried to get her to take a look at the PMU mare, but
to no avail.  She even said "I'm not one who is
usually taken with horses.  I can take them or leave
them, but this horse is just sooo cute.  I have to
bring my daughter to see him".  Do others of you have
similiar experiences?   I would love to hear about
them.  I'll never be breeding, but sounds like for
those of you who do there may be some marketing quotes
...  :^)

Tamara
In So Cal 

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Re: old fjords

2004-02-06 Thread Katherine Carter
This message is from: "Katherine Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Regarding Cushing's disease in older Fjords, does anyone know 
whether the breed, or any particular bloodlines, are prone to it?  I 
lost my beloved Morgan mare to Cushing's at age 20 (her, not me) 
and have since learned that Morgans seem to be prone to the 
disease.   

Kathy in ME



Re: Old Fjords

2004-02-06 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 2/5/2004 10:51:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's not uncommon for Fjords to reach their mid to
late 20's.
Our old Ellinor lived to 26, when she was put down due to arthritis. She had 
her last foal (a gorgeous, healthy filly) at age 25.

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #27

2004-02-06 Thread SorgerJ
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Catherine Lassesen, 
I have sent 3 emails to you in the last week and all have been returned, 
could you contact me. Thanks.
Sue

Sue Clark-Sorger
Crown Oak Fjords
Sandia Park NM



Re: supplement salt ? and Sharon update

2004-02-06 Thread SorgerJ
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In a message dated 2/4/04 10:44:51 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did I miss why people are giving salt rather than salt blocks, the big one?
My Gunnar takes a lot of salt but the Vet says it is okay.  By a lot I mean
that I see him quite often licking the block. He goes through one of those
big blocks in about three months.
  My mare Heather would lick a whole salt block in less than a week and drink 
30 gallons of water a day, While I like to encourage my horses to drink this 
is excessive and so I add salt to her feed or give her a small salt block in 
her feeder for a couple of hours. My other 2 fjords have a regular large salt 
blocks with no problem.  Not sure why Heather does this but my vet says it 
could cause kidney problems so we limit her salt.
Sue

Sue Clark-Sorger
Crown Oak Fjords
Sandia Park NM



Re: old

2004-02-06 Thread Hope Carlson
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thor's brother Bjorne died at 25 due to upper intestinal colic. Thor is 25
now and going strong, very tough, even with problems.  Takes thyroid and
joint supplement.  Last week was chemically blinded in one eye by a vet
opthalmologist.  The uveitis had blocked drainage from his eye and glaucoma
had set in, pressures not easily managed, had lost much vision over time.
Vet said sometimes the horse is happier with one good eye as it is confusing
to the horse to reconcile seeing good on one side and bad on the other.
Thor has increased his water intake and is not so frantic when I take
another horse from pasture.  He is as easy or easier to handle. We talk to
him alot and look out for him.  He was actively working ride/drive thru last
Fall and I expect to start him again this Spring.  Slow and easy and enjoy
is the name of the game with my old campaigner.  Not that he always thinks
so.  Still likes to strut in a parade and move out with the cart cross
country at least for awhile!

Hope
N IL



Fjord Promotion

2004-02-06 Thread JHalst7719
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I spent last weekend in Orlando, Fla (cold and rainy!) and visited the Norway 
pavilion


Oops!  Meant to say "visited the Norway pavilion at Epcot Center".

Carol 'n Patrick in Ct