White fjord mare Gwendellin
This message is from: Norsk Wood Works [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Phillip Odden Folks have been writing about white dun fjords as of late. I just thought I would chime in with my observations regarding our white dun. FC Gwendellin came to our farm early this spring from Baileys. She is an interesting and unusual fjord. There seem to be only about 40 white mares registered in NFHR. Several of them are Modellen offspring. Gwen is a lighter style rather refined fjord. She stands a little over 14 hands and is well proportioned up-headed with a lot of presence. This fjord has well defined withers and pretty good muscling through the croup and down to the gaskin and stifle area. Gwen has a nice overstep at the walk, a free moving trot, and a light up-hill canter. She is a forward horse but very steady. You don't have to remind her to move out. This spring after she lost her winter coat I noticed the primitive stripes on either side of her withers. The Norwegians call these grep or shoulder cross. I have seen them in only one other fjord. We have been working with Gwen getting her ready for the Blue Earth show and soon the La Crosse evaluations where she will do the conformation test and intro English riding. It will be interesting to find out what the evaluators see in her compared to the breed standards. At Blue Earth she won the Brood Mare class and placed in other classes. My neighbor, a 14 year old girl, has been handling her and doing a fine job. She is bred to my gray Stallion Smedsmo Graen. These two horses are good representatives of the type of horse I am trying to breed. I am looking for lighter to medium style fjords with first class disposition yet forward moving horses. I want big movement in the walk and trot and a lighter up -hill canter. (My stallion moves big at the walk and trot.) Well defined withers and well muscled long hips catch my eye. As an artist, the big soft eye and smaller heads are more pleasing to me. Finding real good legs and lots of FJORD TYPE in a package like this is a challenge. I guess that is what makes it so interesting. It ain't easy to find. I understand why many people like the older style, light draft fjords. For many brown dun is the color fjords should be. It is a good thing the fjords come in more than one body style and in several colors. Diversity within the breed standard is a good thing. Brown duns are nice to look at certainly, but the dark grays and white duns can be very eye catching too.
Re: Snoozing in the horse trailer!!!!!!!
This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was snoozing in the horse trailer so I could drive home that night but my wife Lisa filmed it also. Snoozing in the horse trailer!Mark...snoozing ..no way...not allowed! I'm jealous. Actually I'm thinking of adding a class next year for us older - can't keep up people - call it a Sleep Class - all of us whom need a nap - go into the ring - and just sit on our horses - and sleep. Whoever doesn't fall off - wins. Still in humor, Pat Holland
Re: Stools Llama
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Fjords sure can recognise other Fjords! I had my mare at a clinic with other breeds of horses, she was the only Fjord there for 2 days..but when another Fjord arrived she recognized her at a distance and you would have though it was her long lost friend the way she whinnied, altho they had never met before! Jean in sunny and hot Fairbanks, Alaska 85 degrees (doesn't the weather God know that the annual state FAIR is going on?) I still maintain that Fjords smell different... On the other side though, the first few times my Fjord mare saw Icelandics (and Pasos) she got scared. She actually backed out of line-up at a show and moved down to stand with another Fjord when an Icelandic lined up next to us. I've always thought it was because of the excess of movement - Fjords have such subtle body language themselves. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stools Llama
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/9/2004 7:32:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, has anyone ever had problems with horses being afraid of their Fjords when meeting them in a ring or on a trail? I have found that Paso Fino's are almost always are afraid of Fjords Hi Cynthia: Yes! I have seen other breeds of horses get really freaked out over my Fjords. We met some T Walkers and Morgans once on a poker ride/drive - there were three of us in carts, one paint, one Haflinger and my Fjord. The riders went by the other two carts no problem, but when they got to me 3 of the 4 went nuts! One had to be led by, by the one horse that wasn't afraid. One ended up backing by and one headed into the bushes and eventually went around us VERY wide. I also came across this while using the fairgrounds outdoor arena while there was a big regional Morgan show going on. All I had to do was walk my mare into the arena and the Morgans would start rolling their eyes and scattering. I still maintain that Fjords smell different... On the other side though, the first few times my Fjord mare saw Icelandics (and Pasos) she got scared. She actually backed out of line-up at a show and moved down to stand with another Fjord when an Icelandic lined up next to us. I've always thought it was because of the excess of movement - Fjords have such subtle body language themselves. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fear and Fjords
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, has anyone ever had problems with horses being afraid of their Fjords when meeting them in a ring or on a trail? I have found that Paso Fino's are almost always are afraid of Fjords (but maybe not llama''s). I am sure that it some racial memory thing that does not recognize a Fjords shape. I also have had the horses be afraid of a standing wooden bear carving that was lifesize and standing at a gate entrance. We had one incident where we met an Arab on the trail, and she acted positively terrified of my husband's Fjord gelding. But, he was wearing his fly mask, which might have had something to do with it. Usually, I've had the opposite problem---my Fjord gelding was afraid of Arabs and Pasos! We've decided that's a mis-match in body language; Fjords speak more subtly, hence over-react to an equine with very expressive body language. Hubby's Fjord was afraid of stone gateposts and mailbox surrounds. We would occasionally ride along the bridle path in upscale neighborhoods, and Rom always had to keep a careful eye out on those horse-eating stone pillars I had finally managed to talk my donkey into going calmly past the various stumps and logs along our property line fence. Then, one day, we drove by there, and 3 little black calves that were bedded down near the fence got up, looked at her, and ran away. Now, we're back to having to hyperventilate about all logs and stumps, again, sigh. Equine survival trait---different things are deadly until proven otherwise! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: Chincoteague ponies
This message is from: sandra church [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean-the original Chincoteague wild ponies are still on Assateague Island 74 foals were auctioned off recently with the highest price foal going for $4000. Years ago, new blood (Arabian stallion) was added to a herd so that larger ponies could be produced therefore, more valuable. I can't remember why the mustangs were added...maybe after so many wild ponies drowned in the 1962 hurricane flooding but the mustangs didn't survive. While on the islands last week, I was just wondering how fjords would adapt to the lifestyle there...didn't mean to imply that fjords would be added to the wild pony herd! To make this post more fjord related, Loki I just had a wonderful morning trail ride. We're having a much needed break from the hot humid Va. weather. He hadn't been on a trail in several months but he was a perfect gentleman helped to keep my daughter's hyper thoroughbred calm during the ride. I keep hoping that both of my daughters will one day want to be fjord owners...they might spend less time in the ER if they stuck with fjords!Happy trails everyone! Sandra Loki in Va. Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more!
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #180
This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey List, Does any have info on accommodations (hotels, motels, garage, stall for me, etc??) at Libby? I am planning on attending this year. Paula I've sent you a list of accommodations off-list and would be glad to do the same for anyone else coming out... we live only 35 miles from Libby and handy for us to help if we can. Ruthie, nw mt
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #180
This message is from: DANIELLE DEARINGER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. Just wanted to say thanks for all the comments on founder, I figured it was mostly a management problem-just like other breeds. I hope to get a fjord after I sell my qh, (or maybe I'll win Arianna :) ) At the soonest next spring, I hope. We have a 3 acre farm in Northern Indiana, so 2-3 horses are our limit right now. I really want a mare so I can breed her some day too. My goal is to have several and perhaps a stallion, but that won't happen til we can purchase more land. Thanks again! Danielle Hileman, Promise Acres Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more!
RE: Stools Llama
This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, this is a strange combination for a reply! I'm just too lazy to write two messages! (LOL) Stools: While it certainly could be a problem with teeth, have you tried giving a probiotic to help with digestion? Llamas: I agree with Fred. Tank lived with a llama and they got along fine. However, after I moved from there and after several months, I was riding past a farm with llamas who came running at the fence and Tank lost it and took me down a steep ditch bank. I am not sure that a group of strange looking shapes running towards your horse whatever breed would not challenge their courage. BTW, has anyone ever had problems with horses being afraid of their Fjords when meeting them in a ring or on a trail? I have found that Paso Fino's are almost always are afraid of Fjords (but maybe not llama''s). I am sure that it some racial memory thing that does not recognize a Fjords shape. I also have had the horses be afraid of a standing wooden bear carving that was lifesize and standing at a gate entrance. Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.geocities.com/cmadden88011
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #180
This message is from: Paulaj Steinmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey List, Does any have info on accommodations (hotels, motels, garage, stall for me, etc??) at Libby? I am planning on attending this year. The last time I attended was in 1997 when I bought Oz for Laurie :o) !!! Looking forward to attending this year again. (I will not buy another horse, I will not buy another horse, I will not buy another horse, I will not buy another) Paula
Re: Runny stool
This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some time ago, I wrote in asking what the cause could be for chronic runny stool in the three year old. We worm every 3 to 4 months, however Peppy still has the runs. He is only normal occasionly with the runs being common for him. .. They have very little grass, their main food source is sun cured timothy haywith 2 cups sweet feed per day( 1 cup twice daily). Sue SUE, I'd cut out that blinkety-blank sweet feed immediately! At best it's nothing more than junk food but in this heat it can very EASILY mold and is dynamite to the horse's system. This mold is sometimes hard to spy but it can sure do some damage. Gene says that all they really need is good grass hay, fresh water, and salt... we very rarely serve up plain oats even... only for working stock or special needs. Best of Luck to you in solving Peppy's problem, Ruthie, nw mt http://www.libby.org/~bushnell
Re: Libby dates
This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg Knutsen said: Monica, the NFHR Evaluation will be held on Weds and Thurs, and is also a very educational thing to watch. See you there, I hope, whatever day you come. I'm sure the evaluations would be very educational indeed. Do you think it would be more beneficial to come on Thursday, than on Friday? We want to see lots of Fjords, learn some stuff, meet some people ... but we don't have much time in which to do it. So we're hoping to maximize our Fjord exposure. As always, thanks for the info. Monica in Nelson, BC
Libby dates
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monica, the NFHR Evaluation will be held on Weds and Thurs, and is also a very educational thing to watch. See you there, I hope, whatever day you come. Good luck, Peg Knutsen Peg Knutsen www.elltel.net/kffjord/
RE: Runny stool
This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this was my horse I would get and equine dentist right away, for all the horses. [ not a vet. as most don't have the training or the tools] While the dentist is there have him/her put a bit seat in. A horse spitting out hay means that he can't chew it properly. Horses teeth need to be checked and touched up every YEAR!!! You will save in feed costs, and the horses will have teeth to chew with when they get old. Not sure why the sweet feed is being used?? If you really feel that you have to feed something else, suggest dry cob. BUT, take care of the teeth and your horse will gain weight!!Also, better do some despooking training. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca.
Re: Runny stool
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peppin is now 3. Some time ago, I wrote in asking what the cause could be for chronic runny stool in the three year old. We worm every 3 to 4 months, however Peppy still has the runs. He is only normal occasionly with the runs being common for him. It seems, every green thing he gets hold of gives him gas and causes the loose stool though he is not at all sick. They have very little grass, their main food source is sun cured timothy haywith 2 cups sweet feed per day( 1 cup twice daily). He is also spitting out clumps of hay. Would he still be cutting teeth? [...] (I am wondering if it could be the grain. Randy is trying to get his weight up so he gets grain daily.) It could be his teeth. Equines continue to teethe until about age 5 or 6. At this point, he might have a retained cap---a baby tooth that didn't shed properly, and the adult tooth under it is coming in anyway. This can cause his teeth to not mesh properly, so he can't grind his food properly, so it goes right thru him---he has the runs, and can't get all the nutrition out of the poorly-ground hay, so doesn't gain weight well. Spitting out clumps of hay is also a symptom of a tooth problem. Sounds like he needs to see a dental specialist. The sooner you get it fixed, the less likely that the permanent tooth under it will grow in crooked. Some vets are good at dental problems, but many only took one dental class in vet school. My old Fjord mare had tooth problems, because I trusted my equine general practitioner, who didn't know nearly as much as she pretended to; an equine dentist showed me what the problem was, and did his best to help Nansy chew properly. Good luck! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: Libby
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monica, The website for the Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional group is http://pnfpg.org/ Friday is the halter classes, starting at 10:00. The some other classes...Ground driving obstacle classes and trail classes Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska A Oooh, excellent! Thank you. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]