RE: Here a bear there a bear
This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My parents are near Ladysmith Wisconsin, also in your neck of the woods. They have tons of bears around their place. Sort of scary sometimes. Makes you want to have some sort of weapon or a couple good dogs with you at all times. Maybe some pepper spray or a tazer. By the way, you do know how to tell the difference between black bear scat and grizzly bear scat? The black bear scat has berries and nuts and things in it, smells awful. The grizzly bear has little bells and smells like pepper spray. Mark Skeels -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol J. Makosky Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:52 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Here a bear there a bear This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 06:22:40 -0500 From: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Sat fun. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Had a bear cross the road in front of us (Heidi & me) about 50 ft. ahead of her. She only jumped a little and probably thought it was a big dog. I had my trusty whip handy to spank it. Going to have to put notches in my whip for bears and dogs soon. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
RE: swollen throat
This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm no vet, but I wouldn't think a swollen throat is normal, on our fjords anyhow. But the glands have swollen in past summers, not sure about scoping them, but the swollen glands are visible from the outside, sort of toward the rear and under the jaw, lots of glands under that area if I remember right and you can also feel them swollen. With ours it seems like when they are being bit by a lot of misquito's. I would think the same might be true if flies or any insect is biting them much. Also might check out the pasture for noxious weeds that may have a slight poisoning effect to horses. Also certain types of clover are poisonous, aslike (sp?) I think. Just my 2 cents. Mark Skeels - Helena, Montana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:06 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: swollen throat This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone had a problem with their fjord's throat being swollen. My mare colic a couple of days ago and had to get surgery. The next day when the vet put the camera down her throat he noticed it was swollen. He said he had another fjord in the hospital with a swollen throat. He was wondering if this was a fjord trait. He has only seen two fjords. Both have the same problem. Thank You Kathy 23355 Modoc Ct Gavilan Hills, CA 92570 951-657-2505
Re: pity party
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Janne wrote: This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uffda Lisa, ouch. I must say I admire you for telling your story. I can relate to your "no blood in the head, and puking etc etc!! Do like me last summer when laid up and do damage to the old C card on ebay. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Re: Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Transport!?
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Kay, You will find them at 213-689-9902 or email them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a FYI they are also in MI. Roberta - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Transport!? > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear Roberta, > I'd love to talk to Bailey's Transport! Got a phone number? > > Kay Van Natta > Yellow Pony Farm > SE MI
Re: Invite to a Pity Party
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh Lisa, I'm so sorry to hear about your accident and your journey to help. I have dislocated a knee cap on several occasions and know that blinding 1000 pain and the stupid medical person who says, just straighten your leg - right! You sounded very brave; it is amazing what the body can do in self preservation. Please take it easy. When will they be able to diagnose exactly what is wrong and what you need to do about it? After having a dislocation every 5-7 years, I had surgery and have not had one in 11 years. I hope they can do something for you. Your story just points out how dangerous horses can be, even if we do everything right and are very careful. Somehow we all keep coming back, because not having horses in our life is too painful. -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan
Re: Invite to a Pity Party...ow! ow! ow!
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kay, Sorry to hear about your injury and that you had to have surgery; you were either very quiet about it or I missed it. I hope you are healing well. Will you be able to show at Blue Earth? I noticed that you are looking for horse transportation. Is your trainer not able to trailer you to Blue Earth or have you bought a second Fjord that you are trying to get home? This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Lisa, Good grief! I've been feeling sorry for myself because of having to hobble around after knee surgery...a crummy torn medial meniscus...which sounds like (and is) nothing compared to your adventure! I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better and I hope the healing gets swift and painless from now on. Maybe we can limp around together at Blue Earth? Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm SE MI -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan
RE: Another brag if you can stand it
This message is from: "Richard, Julia CTR NAVAIR Bldg. 111, S1A, Rm 220" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Marsha, This is Julie Richard the owner of Kinsey and Arora. I am so happy to hear you have done so well in the current shows. Way to go.. I tried to call you guys and then realized you were not home. I have the results of the breeding. Arora is going to be a Mama :-) way to go Wynn Kinsey didn't take, but she currently has a ready to go follicle. I thought about doing AI, but it would have to be done by the 24th. I don't think we have time to catch her now. I really thought Kinsey was pregnant because she has been so laid back since she came home from your farm. I thought her hormones were changing. I didn't notice any mood changes in Arora so I though it was the other way around. I am so excited about having the baby in the spring. Give me a call if you have a chance. 240-298-2274. Thank You and Congratulations on your Showing Julie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of M Korose Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 13:36 To: Email list reply Subject: Another brag if you can stand it This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is another Wh hooo if you can stand it, those of you that know Curt and me will understand all of this. The July issue of Equine Journal just came out. i don't know if there are a lot of different editions, ours covers mid-Atlantic type area, I know there is a lot of repetition between editions. In the pony highlight section there is a nice Fjord article, featuring Fjord owner Linda Sverson-Kerr. The pictures include one of Curt driving a mare at one of the evaluations, don't remember who it was offhand, he has taken horses to evaluations for a couple owners so far. THere are also ads from Fjord breeders, to include our full pager. But if you look in the Spotlight section, they have done a story on our farm - Deep Creek Farm - where they interviewed Curt. if you didn't know our whole history before, there it is. It kind of sounds like Curt decided to stay with me as a result of my fabulousfjords! And to top off the fact that this is our issue...on the front is a picture of Gloria Austin driving a 5-up at her horse center in FL (at last Jan CAA learning weekend) and if you look at the left edge of picture there is a person with spectacles watching her (and drooling) as she goes by, that is me. Marsha Korose
Another brag if you can stand it
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is another Wh hooo if you can stand it, those of you that know Curt and me will understand all of this. The July issue of Equine Journal just came out. i don't know if there are a lot of different editions, ours covers mid-Atlantic type area, I know there is a lot of repetition between editions. In the pony highlight section there is a nice Fjord article, featuring Fjord owner Linda Sverson-Kerr. The pictures include one of Curt driving a mare at one of the evaluations, don't remember who it was offhand, he has taken horses to evaluations for a couple owners so far. THere are also ads from Fjord breeders, to include our full pager. But if you look in the Spotlight section, they have done a story on our farm - Deep Creek Farm - where they interviewed Curt. if you didn't know our whole history before, there it is. It kind of sounds like Curt decided to stay with me as a result of my fabulousfjords! And to top off the fact that this is our issue...on the front is a picture of Gloria Austin driving a 5-up at her horse center in FL (at last Jan CAA learning weekend) and if you look at the left edge of picture there is a person with spectacles watching her (and drooling) as she goes by, that is me. Marsha Korose
Horse haulers
This message is from: "dfle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just had some mares and foal hauled from Nebraska to Missouri. I used Cowboy Express out of Montana http://www.cowboy-express.com/pages/1/index.htm They were wonderful. The hauler stopped several times so the foal could nurse and the folks at the office were also great. They did the haul in less than 24 hours and the price was reasonable as well. I had originally contacted Zeigler Livestock haulers out of Iowa. They came highly recommended, but my part of the trip fell apart -- an animal from New York to Nebraska cancelled out so they referred me to Kenny at Cowboy Express. Their web address is: www.angelfire.com/i23/zeiglerlivestock Both groups were very customer oriented. One other one was down right nasty--I won't mention that one. Good luck with the haul. I'd use Cowboy express again--nice trailers, nice people, great group, good price. Rosemary Fleharty Shome Fjords Sent via the WebMail system at cmnt1.c-magic.com
re: swollon throat
This message is from: "Janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> these lymph nodes some have mentioned, are you talking about the glands behind the jowels, a bit below the ear? they are not really swollen as in hard, but just large. I have noticed that more than 50% of the fjords I've inspected when purchasing, had these large glands as do a couple of my horses here. I guess I would not worry about it, all were and are healthy. Janet
pity party
This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uffda Lisa, ouch. I must say I admire you for telling your story. I can relate to your "no blood in the head, and puking etc etc!! I had a fjord mare travel over me and a 6 foot steel panel last late fall, and was laid up for weeks with a badly bruised body and ego. Have never seen a fjord try to jump a 6" before , especially not with me on it. Do not even ask how it happened.I had to big of an ego to tell any horsey people tho. Well, that is except the ones that witnessed it and got new respect for fjords an their "olympic" ability, ha. Still my leg is in recovery, - do not touch!! Hope for fast recovery for you. Pick up some good Clancy books, I read them all last fall. Janne in sweltering ND, where we are haying. Anyone needs a diet, come on over, loading sq. bales is good diet.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #139
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers- Yes, we actually pick them up and step on the scale to weigh them at birth. I say 'we' but actually it has been Dr. White or Carl that pick them up for the weigh-in. And for those of you who know Carl, that is quite an accomplishment. Little Sini who was born this year weighed almost as much as Carl. haha Here are their birth weights: Tinkertoy 94 lbs Tarmosblakken 80lbs Sinisblakke 105 lbs, who is 2 months old now and continues to be a chunk Also, thank you very much to those of you who wrote with the names of horse transporters. It was very helpful. Janice Lee Little Farm Fjords "Home of Saethersblakken" Valley, Nebraska
Re: Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Transport!?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Roberta, I'd love to talk to Bailey's Transport! Got a phone number? Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm SE MI
Heads Up for Hotmail Users
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have sent messages to the list several times in the past warning those folks using "Hotmail" that their FjordHorse List is often arbitrarily rejected by their provider. Starting in November, things could get worse. Please read http://tinyurl.com/a43nc if you are still using "Hotmail" as your service provider. For those of you who find this article contains too much geek talk, it simply means if you stay with "Hotmail" after November, you might not get email from not only FH-L, but many of your friends. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA No whisper of lover, no trilling of birds, Can stir me as hooves of the horses have stirred. -- Will H Ogilvie
Re: Invite to a Pity Party...ow! ow! ow!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Lisa, Good grief! I've been feeling sorry for myself because of having to hobble around after knee surgery...a crummy torn medial meniscus...which sounds like (and is) nothing compared to your adventure! I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better and I hope the healing gets swift and painless from now on. Maybe we can limp around together at Blue Earth? Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm SE MI
Re: FINALLY! -- Fjords are out there at open shows - Dressage & others
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol wrote: Isn't this great? That finally the Fjords are getting recognized for what they can do. -- I'm glad I lived long enough to see it. I was beginning to wonder if it would ever happen. But, guess what? -- This acceptance by dressage judges and beginning acceptance by riders is exclusive to North America. It is NOT happening in Europe. In Europe Fjords are still looked at as chubby, plodding ponies. This wasn't a huge show I went to, but a couple weeks ago I went to my first show ever. It was a local dressage show. I tried to have enough time to do everything, but with a special child in my life, I had a few delays. I just barely started warming Juniper up and my number was called. Reviewing the video of the performance, I could see that the lack of warm up really showed as far as my own position. But Juniper was alert, happy and responsive to me. My patterns weren't the best, as I had not practiced the test more than a couple of times, and I cut a couple of corners, but we still came in third. Our second ride was better and we got even higher marks. I can imagine how she'll do when we've got more experience under our belts/girths and when we have time to warm-up. The people I showed against are very dedicated to the art of Classical Dressage, and they had a variety of horses at various stages. What was endearing is that they'd all be walking by with serious looks on their faces and then they'd see Juniper and it was like the sun breaking through the clouds. They'd all get this delicious grin on their faces when they looked at her, and we received lots of comments on how cute she is and how well she did at her first show. When I saw my riding instructor the following week, he told me that everyone he talked to was very impressed with her. I was never interested in showing now, but when you are riding a fjord, it can be a fun experience! The ribbons are secondary. The adventure is primary! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: horse transporters I've found
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I find it interesting that no one knows one of our own is a transport service. Baileys Norwegian Fjords has lots of experience transporting horses. I have nothing but good experiences to report in my dealings with Dan and Lynda. Very honest, up front, and do their level best to keep on schedule, knowing that things do happen to effect this. Just a curiosity, Roberta - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:15 PM Subject: Re: horse transporters I've found > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear Janice, > I've been shopping for horse transporters lately myself. I haven't > actually used any of them yet but I do have a couple of phone numbers. > > Anderson Horse Transportation (Ashland NE) I-800-255-2796 > Hubbard Horse Transport (WA) 1-800-317-6768 > Drexler Horse Transportation (Hampshire IL) 1-800-262-4464 > Bateman Horse Transport (NY) 1-800-933-4323 > > The second and fourth specialize in east-west transport. The first and > third are, at least, in your neighborhood. Hope this helps. > > Kay Van Natta > Yellow Pony Farm > SE MI
Re: Invite to a Pity Party
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa, Sorry to hear your story. I know the feeling. I just got my cast off my leg on Monday after 7 weeks. My QH stepped on my foot and fractured it in 2 places. Man did it hurt but I rode home, after first stopping at Kathy Kramer's for some wine. Did not dare take my boot off! I hope to be back in the saddle at weeks end. Can't keep a good cowgirl down. Regn is looking forward to Mommy be up and about again (Regn is my Fjord). Take care, be patient, it will take some time and that time will drive you crazy. I did read about 2 books and played many computer games. With sympathy, Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA
ouchie feet
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] we were having oz's feet trimmed last night, and discovered that his soles are rather soft, which would explain why he was having trouble in the outdoor arena, which has a lot of stones. i think it's due to having so much wet weather this year, and everywhere he goes the ground is wet. i know that over the winter and last year, his feet were very hard. does anyone have any suggestions for a sole hardener. i am going to try to get him on the road to toughen them up, but that's got to proceed slowly since the road also has rocks, though nothing as large as the arena.. poor boy, if it ain't one thing, it's another. laurie and oz
Invite to a Pity Party
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! Secret's out I guess and Im fessing up to why so quiet lately here. I got hurt. Feeling alot better today so thought that telling the sad tale all at once might be good. Last I posted here, I was getting ready to ride with my S+R group in the opening of the UTAH Summer Games. I had ridden Ayla for over 3 hours on this day and played in alot of water, so felt very prepared for the event. Never got there ! Same night as my ride, I took Jeffs new warmblood, ( HUGE 1/2 draft horse ) Cabela's out for a round pen lesson. He is " cowboy " broke and while you can ride him around without problems, he checks out mentally when approached with bags, fly spray, blankets ect. He needs alot of desensitizing and has been doing VERY WELL with all his lessons. In fact, once you show him something.he will try to repeat doing " it " right, just for the loves he gets. Well. I put him in the round pen and groomed him head to toe. Climbed under him, did his hocks with a metal curry, brushed out his mane, did his ears, under the tail ect. He didnt move an inch and almost fell asleep with all the attention. Then I gave him a round pen lesson, walk, trot, trot bigger, canter, WHOA, stand, come up, reverse ect. Perfect ! He especially likes the part where I let him come up and touch his nose to the end of my whip. He was terrified of it when we got him, but has been very good about it for awhile now. I spent some time running it between his ears, down his neck, under his belly, over his butt and down his back legs. Normal stuff we have already gotten over. Again, he didnt move and almost fell asleep. I ran the whip down his butt for the 3rd or 4th time when he kicked me. No warning. no white eye, no flick of the ear, no letting me know that I was pushing him or that he was afraid, nothing. Just fired HARD with his ( huge ) back hoof with that nice shiny horse shoe attached to it. Not a warning kick either, more like one of those crash dummy car test tapes where they run a car into a wall to see what damage happens. Like that. BTW, his mother was a Percheron and he inherited her feet. : O I was knocked down and he turned right around and put his big dopey head right into my lap for love. There was nothing personal about it.he was kicking the WHIP, and I was just in between. In fact, the whole time I laid there he was there, asking for pets and I was afraid to shush him away as I feared another kick so we just hung out. I knew that he had kicked me in the knee and that I was hurt, but I couldnt figure out what to do next. I couldnt breath right. I couldnt get up, my leg was not working properly and was sort of under me but crooked. I couldnt begin to describe the pain, but Ive never really been hurt before I guess. That " pain scale " of 1-10 that I used for all the years as an EMT, than a Nurse is HOG CRAP. Needs to go to 1,000 at least. Having my son 17 years ago.dealing with a kidney stone 15 years ago and one case of shingles while in Nursing school all thrown together did not compare. I wanted to get UP, but couldnt get the momentum to do it using the lunge whip as my other leg. I knew that I could crawl on my side, but that didnt seem very COOL at all and my ego wouldnt let me. Jeff had gone to town for pizza's, as they all went up fishing with friends visiting from CA. so it was just me. Boys were in the house, but I had granted some video / computer time.enough said ? So we stayed there. I got up to a crouching position with my " bad " leg stuck out to the side, and with some very interesting swelling starting. For about 15 min. I was stuck there and when I tried to move up, the world would spin and turn grey. I also would almost throw up with any movement, and thats also not very COOL in public. I gave up the COOL part, reluctantly and sort of half crawled, half slithered to the round pen gate. By this time 20 min. had passed and I went through sort of a numb stage with my knee, which was good, so I was able to get outside the round pen and was leaning against the gate of it when Jeff drove up. He passed me with hardly a wave and the men went into the house with the pizzas. OK THEN. : ( I got over to my stallion barn ( about 25 ft ) but was again fighting puking, so sat down on a hay bale to rest. Brian, one of our friends from CA walked close enough to me to say something I didnt get.but then he asked me if I was " resting " ?... I said yes, and he kept going to his motor home. I was sort of in denial about my knee and it was in the numb stage still so I didnt want to panic Brian. ( 35 yr veteran Firefighter ) I was hoping for some quick recovery but when I tried to get up again, there was NO WAY. Adrenalin was goneand so was the numb part. Jeff eventually walked out, gave me a funny look and started telling me a
