Has anyone ever heard of this horses?
This message is from: "Laura Kranzusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Just curious if anyone has ever heard of a Fjord called Banner? I am not sure if that was his registered name or if he was even registered at all. He is a 9 or 10 year old brown dun, who is on the drafty side and not much of a jumper. I am also curious about 2 mares. Oak Point's Dag (Daggie) and Oak Points Alma both brown duns in their early teens. Last I heard, they were sold from the Green Bay, WI area about a year or a year and a half ago. They may have gone to Missouri or sold at the Waverly Auction in Iowa. Any information would be helpful. Thank you! -Laura
Horse rescue...
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The organization that I had contact with is: Habitat for Horses/Lone Star Equine Rescue PO Box 213 Hitchcock, TX 77563 Contact Person: Rose Westover, Emergency Evacuation Coordinator 713-594-1177 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] organization web site: www.lser.org/disaster or: www.habitatatfor horses.org/getinvolved/donatenow This is a 501.c3 non profit organization Jerry Finch, President 409-935-0277 Rose is asking if you want to contact her, to please email her as her phone is extremely busy. There is a site that you can make a direct donation to the organization under one of the websites, sorry, I can't remember which one. I know there are many groups trying to get this task done, Lone Star is working with FEMA and USDA in the affected areas of the US. On their website they have all the info. they are asking for volunteers in large animal rescue who have been trained already. Praying that the loss of horses, pets and livestock is not as great as I fear it is going to be. Keeping all those in the affected areas in my thoughts and prayers. Glad to hear that Paula and Frodo are doing ok and hope that the other horses that coliced are doing well now. Rescues are suggesting giving at least 2 phone numbers for contact, with one being out of what could be the affected areas in case of a natural disaster as the local phone lines might not work for some time. Jeanne and Olaf MI
just for interest sake
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (peace and no bitchy intentions) I really don't think we need to write out show rules here on the list. Neither do we need to re-invent the wheelit's all done for usthe show committee sends out rules with their show package or tells you where to find the infoif a show is sanctioned by AMHS or ADS rules etc.then it usually states that in the Prize list and entrants know then that the event is judges accordingly ...those rules and are available from the subsequent organization. Yes, it requires entrants to plug in and take some initiative or opportunity to learn what is expected but really not much to ask. Traces being slack...yup, that's correct? Heads up...Learning opportunity forthcoming...Tandem, Randem or Quadrom hitches are driven with only the wheeler pulling...all other traces are to be slack...this is where the judge will seperate the novice from the advanced .Rationale being that in the old days, these hitches were used to take additional horses to the hunt OR in the case of a stallion, taken to the neighbor for breeding.(no horse trailers in dem der days)..the lead horse (s) were to get to the destination rested and not tired from the trip. This is also why these hitches are a challenge to drive and require a massive amount of training. The lead horse has to be very reliable. Ursula Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
keep those traces slack !
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/1/2005 3:53:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Enters the quadron in a bid for your tolerance of show amateurs, who may not > be performing at the same high-level of danger that you are; by driving a > 1-horse sized cart with a 4-horse powered single line of Fjords. The > leading > three are NOT pulling anything at all -->see sagging traces! ...in reality > those three are simply round-corral lunging in harness costume, lightly > tethered together in front of ONE horse that pulls the very small cart. > Just to clarify. In the old days, a tandem hitch ( one horse harnessed out in front of the other ) was used to take along a " spare " animal, maybe to go breed, thus the term " stud cart " or just to be used as a riding horse when you reached your destination. It was also used to keep one horse fresh for the return trip, when the 2 were switched and now the leader pulled on the way home. In a pleasure show, in a tandem class, one is judged amoung other things, properly having slack in the traces. The lead horse is not supposed to be pulling at all. If you needed more ummph, you would hitch a pair that could both pull together. Brians Unique Hitch was used in demonstration only, and I am glad for the chance to have seen it. The months of practice it took to get it to that one class, and the care and safety it required was primary. There is one outstanding moment for most of us, that brought us to own Fjords. Maybe we saw them at a Fairor a CDE. Plowing a field in a demonstration at Horse Progress Days by Rich, or traveling across the entire country with a 3-abreast and Dave McWethy. Ursula or Vivian kicking butt in a dressage arena, or Orville Aunrau gently sneaking his 3 yr olds at a smooth trot through a tough cones course at Libby, and smoking us all for time when we galloped ours.anyway. The outstanding moments that caught attention for all of us to seek out and buy this wonderful pony are all personal times for each of us. When someone takes the time to show skill, training and plain old entertainment, they should be proud. Keep on going guys ! We can only dreamLisa
removing that bridle ( long )
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/1/2005 3:53:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I am having trouble understanding why a properly headed horse hitched to > a vehicle is considered as dangerous as unbridling a hitched horse? and why > would the tying of reins back on a heavy wagon with the breaks on, presuming > the whole rig is heavy enough, and the horse is headed, be unsafe? do you > all unhitch your horses when your class is running really late, no > experienced driver is handy, and you need a quick trip to the biffy? > > janet > A good question Janet. This was posted on my Draft horse list a couple of days ago. Deb is a friend from CA. we sold her a Pioneer Forecart years ago. With her permission to post. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of deb Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [draftndrive] Regarding Sundays Drive I want to preface this story with an apology I want to tell you all that I apologise for being arrogant and ignorant and believing that I was an exception to hard and fast rules layed down by centuries of experience. The drive went fabulously I took my neighbor for a Sunday drive to take pictures of the country side. Katee was a very good girl even Geed an Hawed when we had to make some tight turns. My neighbor is a former cowby from his younger days so is well experience with horses and thier unpredictability. We had a nice chat... met some neighbors and Tom filled me in on some of the names of the rock formations of the area. Tom is part Native american and German LOL what a combo. He helped me hitch and when it came time to unhitch he fastened Katee's cross ties for me. When I hopped out of the cart I was nearest the breeching so I unfastened that on both sides. All the time chatting with tom about what a great drive we had had. I went forward to unfasten the driving lines and then though what the Heck I will take off the bridle now too. I had to undo one side of the cross ties because it was over the bridle. As I took off the bridle Katee moved and the cart rolled forward... I dont remember the rest of what happend. I can only piece through the details from what Tom told me later. I rember waking up on the ground and Katee was gone. I asked Tom what happend and all he would say is Katee's down the road and I have to go call 911. Tom was running for his house when I got up and sat on the mounting block steps. I could feel blood on my forehead above my eye. It was getting hot sitting there. Sunday was 104 degrees with no breeze. I got up heading for more shade and made it half way to the house and sat back down on the horse trailer. I knew something was terribly wrong but didnt know what. I got back up and headed for the house and plopped down on the front porch on the cool cement and in the shade I sat and waited. The Paramedics came and asked me a bunch of questions which I was able to answer coherently. While they were ministering to me my neighbor Mary Donna came screeching up in her truck and started chewing me out for not bringing Katee over to longe her first. I explained that I had had Katee out already for at least an hour and I was unhiching when the accident happened. At any rate she had katee tucked away in one of her corrals I was life flighted out seventy miles to the nearest trauma center. Aside from the anxiety of being strapped down vaguely wondering what happend to my horse (claustrophobia) and hating the feeling of being in a heliocopter the trip was uneventful. They did a chest exray and a cat scan and wheeled me in to the Trauma surgeon. He got my xrays back he announced that I had a slight concussion but the xrays were clear "unfortunately we couldnt find a brain" He was teasing... I took it for teasing but he was right. I was lucky damn lucky. I have hoof prints and bruises on me a Bruised rib that feels as if it were cracked and a bruised ego. As near as I can tell from Tom Katee bolted leaped or scrambled over me because she knocked me down and pulled the cart through the cross ties up and over me. She then made a circle up and over a big pile of brush whereupon the cart shafts came out of the loops and dug into the ground. The single tree broke free and she was finally free to bolt into the desert. Tom said she leaped four feet up and about ten feet over some more brush piled in her way. Last he saw of her she was headed down the road hopefully to my neighbors house. I wasnt supposed to drive but wound up driving back home because My mom isnt comfortable enough on the freeway. I was able to take my truck down to Mary Donnna's house and with Katee tied to one of the tie rings in the truck able to lead her back home. She caught on quickly as we creeped down the dirt road. My son sat in the bed of the truck to talk to Katee as we went. Katee didnt have a scratch on her... Thank goodn
Fjord-friendly Dressage Saddle for Sale!
This message is from: Melissa Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I am sending this ad for a friend. The saddle fit my Fjord, but I don't need another saddle! 18" new, dark brown leather Argentinian dressage saddle, extra wide tree, short billets, nicely-balanced, full and supportive under thighs for rider, fits uphill Fjords! $450 + shipping. Saddle is located in Maryland. Contact Lita at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Melissa
PNFPG newsletter
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am working on the fall newsletter which will have the Libby Show results and all the summer happenings. For those who promised articles, please get them to me in the next week or two. There is still room for ads and for stories. For members, 'THIS IS YOUR NEWSLETTER', let's hear what you have been doing with your fjords. I know there are members out there who have been busy doing weddings, parades, pioneer trail rides/drives, CDE's or fun stuff happening at home. We all want to hear about it...A quick story and a picture would be great. Ursula Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
hurricane relief
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here is the link to the website of the Humane Society of the United States. They have horse rescue organizations they are affiliated with. They need all kinds of supplies such as halters and leads for horses that were turned loose - I guess lots of horses as well as other livestock are in standing water and much worse. It all sounds dreadful. Like the Red Cross, they are urging cash donations though seem to be more open about volunteers in adjacent states who can trailer animals out of the danger zone. The Humane Society of the United States [EMAIL PROTECTED] Teressa in northwest Washington
horse rescue group
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The horse rescue group aiding animals affected by the hurricane is Day's End Farm Horse Rescue located in Maryland. They also accept donations to aid their efforts. Teressa in Northwest Washington
Re: safety "could say plenty" etc
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ruthie, I personally would not use any of John Lyons, quotes, I don't agree with much of his teachings especially with his driving knowledge, none[zero], and the way he teaches horses to desensitize, like turn and face danger.??? Try turning and facing danger with a team of four. I agree with Brian and Ursula, good job. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. new address [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- > John Lyons has said that a horse should not be in the ring if it requires > silence WHAT DOES THIS MEAN,??? AMBIGUOUS STATEMENT,,, and that no horse is safe if it requires quiet in a public AGAIN, WHAT??? > exhibition. As someone has already stated, all it takes is one bee sting or > one unordinary occurrence, ..those slack traces would tighten and that tiny > cart would fly like an eagle! > > I guess my point was that one man's idea of safety is different than > another's. > > Ruthie, nw mt US
Hurricane / Horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From my Draft Horse List, Jean. Maybe if everyone here with a Fjord sent off 20 bucks to help.( if you have one of these, you can AFJORD to help ! ) ; ) Press ReleaseSource: American Humane Association American Humane Association's Animal Emergency Services Stages Near Gulf Coast to Aid Katrina's Animal Victims Tuesday August 30, 6:07 pm ET DENVER, Aug. 30 /PRNewswire/ -- As Gulf Coast residents survey damage from Hurricane Katrina's landfall and raging winds and flooding continue to wreak havoc, the American Humane Association's Animal Emergency Services is staged to deploy to help the thousands of displaced pets still in harm's way. ADVERTISEMENT (Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20030120/LAM004LOGO ) Coordinated from national headquarters in Denver, American Humane Association's Animal Emergency Services' volunteers and fleet of vehicles are at a staging area chosen for its expeditious location and await the opportunity to assist local organizations and state and federal agencies. Additionally, Animal Emergency Services is working closely with other groups, such as the Animal Rescue League of Boston and the Veterinary Medical Assistance Team (VMAT), to coordinate the most effective response and ensure the safety of the largest number of animals possible. "Hurricane Katrina has forced millions of people to evacuate -- many without their pets," says Marie Belew Wheatley, president and CEO of the American Humane Association. "And our Animal Emergency Services is on the ground, ready to help reunite families, one pet at a time." Thanks to support from the PETCO Foundation, American Humane Association has trained additional volunteers who can be called up to join relief efforts in any area of the country. All are trained to assess animal needs, care for injured animals, establish animal shelters that are co-located with human ones, distribute pet food and supplies, and reunite pets with their families. The American Humane Association urges all animal owners -- particularly those in areas predicted to be hit by the storm -- to create a family disaster plan that includes pets and to make advance lodging arrangements for animals in case of evacuation. "If it's unsafe for you to remain in your home, it's unsafe for your animals! Take them with you," Wheatley advises. For information on disaster preparedness for pets and American Humane Association's Animal Emergency Services relief efforts in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, visit www.americanhumane.org. About the American Humane Association Founded in 1877, the American Humane Association is the oldest national organization dedicated to protecting both children and animals. Through a network of child and animal welfare and protection agencies and individuals, American Humane develops policies, legislation, curriculum, and trainings to protect children and animals from abuse, neglect, and exploitation. The nonprofit membership organization, headquartered in Denver, raises awareness about The Link® between animal abuse and other forms of violence, as well as the benefits derived from the human and animal bond. American Humane's regional office in Los Angeles is the authority behind the "No Animals Were Harmed"® End Credit Disclaimer on TV and film productions, and American Humane's office in Washington, DC, is an advocate for child- and animal- friendly legislation at the state and federal levels. Visit www.americanhumane.org to learn more.
Re: Fjord in AAA Magazine!
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, they probably had been stopped dozens of times by tourists asking for pictures..Maybe they just wanted some real business? Yep, that's it. Also, let me clarify that it was the people, not the >Fjords, that weren't friendly. Maybe they were just having a bad day? > >Jamie >In the Mountains SW of Denver, CO
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #197
This message is from: "Janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think most people understand that horses behave very differently when away from home. I also think safety is under rated on the farm, if I get in a wreck at home, chances are no one will be around to know and help, and the kinds of things we are hitching to are potentially much more dangerous than a wheeled vehicle. A loose horse running down a busy road is also a safety hazard to other people. Personally I think the challenges are greater here at home, between cement trucks passing me at 70 mph and pheasants that can burst out from under the horse (and I've had both happen simultaneously!) So I agree safety is safety. But I am having trouble understanding why a properly headed horse hitched to a vehicle is considered as dangerous as unbridling a hitched horse? and why would the tying of reins back on a heavy wagon with the breaks on, presuming the whole rig is heavy enough, and the horse is headed, be unsafe? do you all unhitch your horses when your class is running really late, no experienced driver is handy, and you need a quick trip to the biffy? janet
Re:odd places to see Fjords
This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RE: odd plces to see fjords Animal Planet TV ran their animal funniest videos show a couple days agofreaturing a fjord trying to get a hold of a carrot that was dangling by a string!! Very cuteHey...it was my KIDS watching it.:) Cheryl in S. Cal Pat Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: "Pat Holland" Talking about seeing Fjords in the AAA book. If any of you happen to be dairy farmers, live next to one, know oneonce drove past a dairy farm.(we are becoming rare)or just drink milk... : ) in the past two Select Sires Bull Catalogs, one of our cows was chosen to represent a bull they sell semen from. I talked the professional photographer into taking the picture with two Fjords in the background..( I told him there are allot of Scandinavian dairy farmers)..anyway, the Fjords are Pines Edge Ivan (my gelding) and Sylvia (imported from Holland).the rep. from Select Sires told me the catalog is sent to Europe as well. Fun facts! Pat Holland
Re: Fjord in AAA Magazine!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] << They are in Skagway, and one of these Fjords came from Unraus (Anvil Acres) in the same trailer load as my mare Anvil's Adel. Jan in Fairbanks, Alaska rainy day >> Yep, that's it. Also, let me clarify that it was the people, not the Fjords, that weren't friendly. Maybe they were just having a bad day? Jamie In the Mountains SW of Denver, CO
Fjords in Skagway
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was in Alaska in June, and one of our trips was to Skagway. (We flew in, and worked out of Juneau, not a cruise, just Juneau, Skagway, Sitka). Anyway, just seeing a horse in that part of Alaska was something, and to find that it was a Fjord was pretty exciting! And, the one I saw was a mare with the bum bag! Yes, the driver was just sort of "there". I did get pictures, and the driver didn't even try to pose for the picture, just stayed in this slanted sideways position. Carole Sweet Waterford, Calif. Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at http://www.BigValley.net";>www.BigValley.net
RE: ATCH LEVELS/heavy coat in summer
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have not been paying attention to the discussion of Atch Levels. However, I was reading EQuus tonight, and it talked about the test for ATCH levels as being ineffective in late summer and fall.I think it said all horses tend to test positive at this time. Gail
