Re: Erlend's health
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Fred, and best wishes for Showie's recovery. Erlend thanks you for the cookies. Peg - Original Message - From: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: RE: Erlend's health This message is from: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saw Peg and Ernie up at Pilchuck this early afternoon. Erlend talked me out of 5 Mrs. Pastures Horse Cookies while waiting to be poked and prodded. We picked up our 2yr old stallion The Showman who beat the odds and recovered from a stomach puncture surgery. Last Sunday, Showie was running around the driveway and front yard. He ran thru an area that he had been thru a hundred times. Against the garbage cans was a wood handled wheelbarrow standing on its nose. Showie misjudged where he was, tried to jump the wheelbarrow, broke the handle and the sharp remnant penetrated 4 inches into his belly. Off I went, speed limit and red lights be damned, to Pilchuck...70 miles away. The vet felt thru the wound hole and with touch and ultrasound they could not detect a hole in the stomach. The sharp, broken piece had penetrated at an angle. Not straight in. They decided to wait and take another blood test and belly tap in the morning. OUCH...the morning test indicated his bad counts had increased 10 fold indicating that there WAS a puncture and stomach fluids were leaking into the belly area. Surgery was immediately performed, a hole was found and patched and IV antibiotics begun. His white count continued to drop and antibiotics were switched. If the white count had continued to drop, they would have opened him up again and tried, again, to flush him out. The next morning the temperature began to drop, his white count began increasing. Today, he came home. He beat the odds. The doctors said that probably only 4 of 10 cases survive. Today, I am the richest man alive as I have my Showman back. Showman had a lot of people pulling for him with good thoughts and prayers. I ask those good people to direct their good thoughts and prayers toward Erlend's complete recovery. Fred and Lois All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396
Aand Colic
This message is from: Anne Salo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi every one, This message comes from Finland and asks for advice. I bought a 16 year old fjord gelding 6 months ago, who was terrible overweigh. I have tried to have him on diet with lots of exercise and a bit less hay but normal feed otherwise. A week ago he got a serious sand colic and I was advized to have a muzzel on him untill winter time. It is still 3-4 months to winter even here in Finland and I am afraid my gelding will be really depressed by that time. Even now he only stands and looks around in his dry lot, are there any other alternatives? Anne
Re: heavy Fjord forelock
This message is from: Debbie Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to tell you that when we were in Denmark for the 65th Anniversary show, we saw a lot of fjords with very long and thick forelocks. These horses did dressage, jumping, driving in obstacles, etc. I think they are used to it and will adjust. Possibly try to braid a few times while doing desensitizing exercises. Another thought is not to cut the forelock but to pull some hairs out to thin it out just a little. A beautiful forelock is worth keeping I think. I love the beautiful thick forelocks. I think these horses back in their native countries and climbing those mountains and they could see just fine. Good luck. I personally use the Clinton Anderson ground training and all the desensitizing exercises work really well for all my fjords.I am thinking the Parelli exercises will be similar. Good luck! Debbie Ulrich Corgi Hill Fjords Winona, MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: heavy Fjord forelock This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Oona, It would be a shame to cut his forelock. I'm not sure whether it contributes to his spookiness, as many horses, including my stallion Erlend, have long, full, forelocks that don't seem to bother them. In driving harness with blinkers we pull his forelock aside or braid it. Riding or draft, he wears it natural and shakes his head it he wants to see better. If he senses a nubile lady horse nearby, for example. Braiding does seem a sensible solution for desensitizing him. Good luck, Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: heavy Fjord forelock This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have a Fjord with a long heavy forelock. He is a wonderful horse, except if he becomes frightened, his reaction is to take off at a dead run and he is very quick. Out of 200 hours riding, I would guess 180 are in the arena, little exposure to trails. I would like to take him on trails rides, but afraid with how spooky he can be of the unexpected. I took him to a Parelli desensitizing clinic last Saturday with great success and then Tuesday took him to a trainer that has been using Parelli techniques for 10 years and he has an excellent reputation. He feels the spooky is something that can be fixed. Since he has had him, he told me that he does much better if his forelock is braided, that he feels it interferes with his vision. What do those of you feel that have Fjords with a heavy forelock. Do you think it interferes with vision and as a result they become frightened of the unexpected, more so that a Fjord without the long heavy forelock. If you agree, is there any other ways of handling this without braids, and I really don't want to cut that beautiful forelock. Thanks, Onna -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006
Tack stalls for the 25 th
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is sent by Linda Syverson-Kerr @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone I hope that everyone is getting ready for the 25 th. This email is to inform you that we have stalls available, so if you have not requested your box stall(s) yet please do so, or those of you that are sharing a tack stall or are in need of a tack stall please email and let me know. Email me at work at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will create a list and then once I get notice from Susan assign you a tack stall. To get your tack stall, please go to the Web site, print off the box stall request form, indicate how many stalls are needed and then pay 150.00 per tack stall needed, and mail form to Susan Cargill. Also, one week prior to the show, those that are attending should receive an email from me with all those coming and their stall numbers, along with a map of the camping, and box stalls. It has been discussed that once you are assigned a stall(s), those are the stalls that you will need to keep. We ask that people not move around or change stalls WITHOUT Susan's and or my permission. We ask this as we will have a map of the barns for those attending ( visitors) how to find those that are showing or have studs. I look forward to meeting and seeing you all at the show, if you have any questions, please email me at the above address. Linda Syverson Kerr
Re: Erlend's health
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope Erland's recovery is both speedy and complete. And yours too. We all know how hard it is to see someone we love in pain. Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm SE MI
Re: Sand Colic
This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne, I live in California and I am curious what normal feed is in Finland. My horses live on dry lot (pretty normal in southern California with only 4 - 9 inches of rain a year) and after 20 years of feeding horse at my own farm, I have found all types of horses do best on grass hay. Can you put his hay in a bag or net so he has to work harder to get at it? They also have little balls you can put pelleted feed in so that the horse had to roll it around to get it out. Can you feed him on a rubber mat to decrease the sand? Do they use psyllium in Finland to remove sand from the gut? Does he live alone or does he have a friend? Another horse, pony or even a goat may help him not be depressed. Sarah Anne Salo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Anne Salo Hi every one, This message comes from Finland and asks for advice. I bought a 16 year old fjord gelding 6 months ago, who was terrible overweigh. I have tried to have him on diet with lots of exercise and a bit less hay but normal feed otherwise. A week ago he got a serious sand colic and I was advized to have a muzzel on him untill winter time. It is still 3-4 months to winter even here in Finland and I am afraid my gelding will be really depressed by that time. Even now he only stands and looks around in his dry lot, are there any other alternatives? Anne Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Harness size?
This message is from: Darci Wederski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello: I am new to the list and a new Fjord owner. I love Marta! She is the quietest, calmest horse I have seen in a long time and I am having a blast getting to know her under saddle. I thought my Clydes were great tempered, but Marta has them beat hands-down. When she was younger Marta was introduced to the harness and I would like to continue her training. All of my harness is draft or mini sized and since all of my friends have drafts tooo so I do not have any harness to try on her. Can someone tell me what size a 14.1, 900 lb Fjord would wear? Would a cobb size fit better than a horse size? I know I can take measurements and try to order something that way, but to be honest it has not worked well for me in the past. I would want a breast collar style, not a neck collar. Thank you: Darci in CO Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #192
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I want to thank everyone who responded to the issue of a heavy forelock. There was lots of good information and advice. I plan to follow up and see what happens. Onna
Re: Tack stalls for the 25 th
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:36 am Subject: Tack stalls for the 25 th This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is sent by Linda Syverson-Kerr @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone I hope that everyone is getting ready for the 25 th. This email is to inform you that we have stalls available, so if you have not requested your box stall(s) yet please do so, or those of you that are sharing a tack stall or are in need of a tack stall please email and let me know. Email me at work at:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I will create a list and then once I get notice from Susan assign you a tack stall. To get your tack stall, please go to the Web site, print off the box stall request form, indicate how many stalls are needed and then pay 150.00 per tack stall needed, and mail form to Susan Cargill. Also, one week prior to the show, those that are attending should receive an email from me with all those coming and their stall numbers, along with a map of the camping, and box stalls. It has been discussed that once you are assigned a stall(s), those are the stalls that you will need to keep. We ask that people not move around or change stalls WITHOUT Susan's and or my permission. We ask this as we will have a map of the barns for those attending ( visitors) how to find those that are showing or have studs. I look forward to meeting and seeing you all at the show, if you have any questions, please email me at the above address. Linda Syverson Kerr I am bringing a horse for the Stallion row - BDF Titian - I am assuming that that stall is already reserved. I will not need additional - let me know if this is a wrong assumption. Kathy Spiegel
Re: Aand Colic
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Sarah. I would take him off any type of concentrate and feed him some type of not very rich grass hay (I don't know what is available in Finland) and use a vitamin/mineral supplement meant for horses on grass hay. Here is Florida, the soil is sandy and sand colic is a concern. I feed my fjords only a tiny amount of a low starch feed with timothy or orchard grass hay, sometimes supplemented with the local grass hay if any that is decent is available. YOu can try to find some hay that is good quality but not too delicious so he eats it more slowly and doesn't just gobble it down. I know that if I feed the fjords hay that is too palatable they just bolt it down and look at me for more. It is always a balancing act to keep from overfeeding a fjord. I think a hay bag to keep him from eating off the sandy ground is also a good idea. I like a hay bag better than a net as they are not as likely to get a foot caught in the hay bag. If you can increase his work and get a companion for him that would likely help with his boredom as well. Good luck. Robin in Florida --- Anne Salo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Anne Salo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi every one, This message comes from Finland and asks for advice. I bought a 16 year old fjord gelding 6 months ago, who was terrible overweigh. I have tried to have him on diet with lots of exercise and a bit less hay but normal feed otherwise. A week ago he got a serious sand colic and I was advized to have a muzzel on him untill winter time. It is still 3-4 months to winter even here in Finland and I am afraid my gelding will be really depressed by that time. Even now he only stands and looks around in his dry lot, are there any other alternatives? Anne Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
