RE: horses chewing wood

2007-02-18 Thread Karen Keith

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Another reason for wood chewing -- teething.  I had a horse years ago that I 
found chewing the bark off a pine tree.  I went to check him and was 
horrified to see him bleeding at the mouth.  On closer examination of the 
wound site, I found a loose incisor cap ready to come out!


Karen in England

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Re: insurance

2007-02-18 Thread mabogie
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 I'm replying to Eileen's post on insurance.  Unfortunately for you Eileen, 

there are no mortality carriers who will insure 22 and 28 year old horses.  

If that was the case, I would have the insurance as I own a 21 and a 27 year 

old mare.



In answer to your questions:



1) Do you have major surgical, or major medical/surgical?  I'm thinking

that there might be some pretty serious (and expensive) conditions that

don't actually require surgery? (e.g., nasty infections)



Most mortality coverage is going to be identical.  Carriers differentiate 
themselves

with their major medical/surgical.  Depending on the carrier, you can buy 
surgical only

(which is cheaper)or major medical which will cover a variety of conditions.  
There is a

choice of deductibles, co-pays, and sub-limits.  Also read the exclusions, 
since there

are difference between policies.



I can tell you that a suspensory pull, which hardly seemed dramatic (the horse 
was just

lame sporadically) was over $6K to treat WITHOUT surgery of any kind.  However, 
I think it

is fair to say that generally most non-surgical vet care is going to be cheaper 
than any

surgical vet care.  



2) What insurance company could you recommend?



I happen to use Markel, but there are a number of carriers out there.  I prefer 
to use US

domestic carriers because they are regulated by the state insurance departments 
and there

are some consumer protections.  Equisure typically uses an offshore facility 
(e.g. Lloyds of

London).  I only prefer to go that route when there is a crisis of availability 
or affordability.

There are lots of quality domestic carriers out there and its a competitive 
market.



3) What's the oldest horse your company will insure?



Markel will insure new business up to 16 and then will offer reduced cover for 
current insureds up 

to age 18.  Generally speaking, most mortality carriers write coverage from 3 
months to 16 years, with 

some going to 18 years.  There are specialty carriers who will cover foals 
under age 3 months, but it

will be expensive.  



All my older horses are in work, Eileen, and they are doing great.  However, 
one day they may need 

emergency vet care and at that point it will be a choice based on their age, 
condition, and likelihood 

of a reasonable recovery.  I am prepared to euthanize and bury horses on my 
farm.  I think it is 

important to have a plan for this eventuality and have good communication with 
your vet.  I dread

the day I will have to make this choice about my older girls, but they have a 
home for life with me, so

someday that day will come.



Margaret Bogie

Ironwood Farm

Rixeyville, VA

http://www.ironwood-farm.com 











   

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Re: wood chewing and cribbing

2007-02-18 Thread ruth bushnell

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they eat bark and wood of trees which is
different from cribbing.

I agree...  My horses don't crib, in fact I've never had one that did, 
thank goodness.  But most have chewed wood, fences, trees etc.

Beth


IT SOUNDS AS though wood chewing can lead to cribbing, and should be 
discouraged. Another interesting facet I saw was that it is contagious, 
besides obsessive.. if one horse does it, another picks it up. Here's more.. 
Ruthie, nw mt US


 To keep wood chewing from developing into a life long habit and to prevent 
a horse from discovering cribbing, provide the horse a well-balanced 
ration with minerals and plenty of long-stem hay for roughage, especially 
during cold, wet weather. 

http://www.horsekeeping.com/horse_behavior/cribbing_or_wood_chewing.htm

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Re: wood chewing

2007-02-18 Thread coyote

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Why are they like that in just the Spring?


Why do people make maple syrup only in the spring?

The sweet sap rising during the warm days and cold nights of late winter 
makes the wood taste and probably smell especially good.


Sugar maples happen to have the highest sugar content in their sap, but 
the sap of other trees is also sweet. What horse can resist a treat like 
that?


DeeAnna

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Toxic plants trees

2007-02-18 Thread Ronni Taylor
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R.Taylor, Straw Hat Stables
   
  Plants vary from area to area, so you need to find out what grows in your 
area that is toxic or poisonous. Sometimes, it is the type of plant, sometimes 
it is the AMOUNT of plant available.  For example, in Ohio our pastures usually 
contain a large amount of clover - while not toxic, after the first frost it 
contains too much sugar in the leaves to safely allow horses free grazing over 
it - colic!  Founder!  
  First, try your local extension agent or state department of agriculture 
website.
  Here are some other reference sites I have used:
  www.cmv.ncsu.edu/docs/PDFS/stupid_trees.pdf
  www.petsmart.com
  www.cherokeeanimalclinic.com/equine_toxicplants.htm
  www.equiworld.net/pasturemanagement/poinsonousplants.htm
  www.esc.rutgers.edu.publications/stablemgt
  or google horses toxic plants and you'll get a massive list to choose from!
   

 
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chewing on trees

2007-02-18 Thread Janice Lee
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I have never tried this, but thought since it was a hot topic on the list
lately I would pass it on.  I recently read in a book about horse care the
suggestion to wrap a tree trunk in burlap to discourage horses from chewing
on it.
I have also seen snow fence wrapped around a tree trunk in winter, when the
horses are most likely to chew on it.
 
Janice in Nebraska

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1 Ton Hay Raffle

2007-02-18 Thread fjords
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Hello There! 

 

Anyone living in Oregon that needs good quality hay, The Oregon Fjord Club
will be raffling off 1 ton of hay. Your choice Alfalfa or Grass hay. It is
from the Canyonville Feed and Ranch Supply store. Tickets are $5.00 each or
5 for $20.00. It is for pick up at the Canyonville store. We will draw the
winner during the NW Horse Fair  Expo. All profits will go to the colt
surgery fund. Contact Amy Evers (treasurer) or me.

 

Catherine Lassesen

 

Checks made out to:

Oregon Fjord Club

c/o Amy Evers

260 May Creek Road

Days Creek, OR 97429

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RE: chewing on trees

2007-02-18 Thread Gail Russell
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I wrapped some trees with a heavy plastic wire that looked like chicken
wire.  They tore it apart with their teeth.  

Gail

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Re: wood chewing

2007-02-18 Thread woodberryfarms
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I was discussing with friends my fjords appetite for the trees in our pasture 
this winter.  I was told that in one area of the country the bears were eating 
all the bark off of trees, and killing the trees.  Wildlife Biologists 
determined that they were after the sugar.  They started putting out sugar 
blocks and the bears quit chewing on the trees.  Could there be more sugar in 
bark during the winter?  Or could this be a reason for this instinct?  
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Off line

2007-02-18 Thread fjords
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Hello All,
I will be off line for a while. I do appreciate all the comments and support
you have been sending our way. I need to tend to some personal business and
will get back on line as soon as I can... If you all have questions or
comments for the Oregon Fjord Club... Amy Evers is on line and she will be
glad to comment and reply.

Catherine Lassesen, Hestehaven - The Horse Garden, Bed, Barn, Breakfast 
Baskets, Southern Oregon

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