RE: horses chewing wood
This message is from: Karen Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another reason for wood chewing -- teething. I had a horse years ago that I found chewing the bark off a pine tree. I went to check him and was horrified to see him bleeding at the mouth. On closer examination of the wound site, I found a loose incisor cap ready to come out! Karen in England _ Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=clickclientID=740referral=millionURL=http://live.com.au The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: insurance
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm replying to Eileen's post on insurance. Unfortunately for you Eileen, there are no mortality carriers who will insure 22 and 28 year old horses. If that was the case, I would have the insurance as I own a 21 and a 27 year old mare. In answer to your questions: 1) Do you have major surgical, or major medical/surgical? I'm thinking that there might be some pretty serious (and expensive) conditions that don't actually require surgery? (e.g., nasty infections) Most mortality coverage is going to be identical. Carriers differentiate themselves with their major medical/surgical. Depending on the carrier, you can buy surgical only (which is cheaper)or major medical which will cover a variety of conditions. There is a choice of deductibles, co-pays, and sub-limits. Also read the exclusions, since there are difference between policies. I can tell you that a suspensory pull, which hardly seemed dramatic (the horse was just lame sporadically) was over $6K to treat WITHOUT surgery of any kind. However, I think it is fair to say that generally most non-surgical vet care is going to be cheaper than any surgical vet care. 2) What insurance company could you recommend? I happen to use Markel, but there are a number of carriers out there. I prefer to use US domestic carriers because they are regulated by the state insurance departments and there are some consumer protections. Equisure typically uses an offshore facility (e.g. Lloyds of London). I only prefer to go that route when there is a crisis of availability or affordability. There are lots of quality domestic carriers out there and its a competitive market. 3) What's the oldest horse your company will insure? Markel will insure new business up to 16 and then will offer reduced cover for current insureds up to age 18. Generally speaking, most mortality carriers write coverage from 3 months to 16 years, with some going to 18 years. There are specialty carriers who will cover foals under age 3 months, but it will be expensive. All my older horses are in work, Eileen, and they are doing great. However, one day they may need emergency vet care and at that point it will be a choice based on their age, condition, and likelihood of a reasonable recovery. I am prepared to euthanize and bury horses on my farm. I think it is important to have a plan for this eventuality and have good communication with your vet. I dread the day I will have to make this choice about my older girls, but they have a home for life with me, so someday that day will come. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: wood chewing and cribbing
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] they eat bark and wood of trees which is different from cribbing. I agree... My horses don't crib, in fact I've never had one that did, thank goodness. But most have chewed wood, fences, trees etc. Beth IT SOUNDS AS though wood chewing can lead to cribbing, and should be discouraged. Another interesting facet I saw was that it is contagious, besides obsessive.. if one horse does it, another picks it up. Here's more.. Ruthie, nw mt US To keep wood chewing from developing into a life long habit and to prevent a horse from discovering cribbing, provide the horse a well-balanced ration with minerals and plenty of long-stem hay for roughage, especially during cold, wet weather. http://www.horsekeeping.com/horse_behavior/cribbing_or_wood_chewing.htm The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: wood chewing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are they like that in just the Spring? Why do people make maple syrup only in the spring? The sweet sap rising during the warm days and cold nights of late winter makes the wood taste and probably smell especially good. Sugar maples happen to have the highest sugar content in their sap, but the sap of other trees is also sweet. What horse can resist a treat like that? DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Toxic plants trees
This message is from: Ronni Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] R.Taylor, Straw Hat Stables Plants vary from area to area, so you need to find out what grows in your area that is toxic or poisonous. Sometimes, it is the type of plant, sometimes it is the AMOUNT of plant available. For example, in Ohio our pastures usually contain a large amount of clover - while not toxic, after the first frost it contains too much sugar in the leaves to safely allow horses free grazing over it - colic! Founder! First, try your local extension agent or state department of agriculture website. Here are some other reference sites I have used: www.cmv.ncsu.edu/docs/PDFS/stupid_trees.pdf www.petsmart.com www.cherokeeanimalclinic.com/equine_toxicplants.htm www.equiworld.net/pasturemanagement/poinsonousplants.htm www.esc.rutgers.edu.publications/stablemgt or google horses toxic plants and you'll get a massive list to choose from! - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
chewing on trees
This message is from: Janice Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have never tried this, but thought since it was a hot topic on the list lately I would pass it on. I recently read in a book about horse care the suggestion to wrap a tree trunk in burlap to discourage horses from chewing on it. I have also seen snow fence wrapped around a tree trunk in winter, when the horses are most likely to chew on it. Janice in Nebraska The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
1 Ton Hay Raffle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello There! Anyone living in Oregon that needs good quality hay, The Oregon Fjord Club will be raffling off 1 ton of hay. Your choice Alfalfa or Grass hay. It is from the Canyonville Feed and Ranch Supply store. Tickets are $5.00 each or 5 for $20.00. It is for pick up at the Canyonville store. We will draw the winner during the NW Horse Fair Expo. All profits will go to the colt surgery fund. Contact Amy Evers (treasurer) or me. Catherine Lassesen Checks made out to: Oregon Fjord Club c/o Amy Evers 260 May Creek Road Days Creek, OR 97429 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: chewing on trees
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrapped some trees with a heavy plastic wire that looked like chicken wire. They tore it apart with their teeth. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: wood chewing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been processed by Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. Unknown.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels of files were found. For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit http://ses.symantec.com/ Received: from smailcenter69.comcast.net ([204.127.205.169]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id 20070219020050013007t7goe; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:00:51 + Received: from [67.171.20.61] by smailcenter69.comcast.net; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:00:50 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: wood chewing Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:00:50 + Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ATT Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: d29vZGJlcnJ5ZmFybXNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative I was discussing with friends my fjords appetite for the trees in our pasture this winter. I was told that in one area of the country the bears were eating all the bark off of trees, and killing the trees. Wildlife Biologists determined that they were after the sugar. They started putting out sugar blocks and the bears quit chewing on the trees. Could there be more sugar in bark during the winter? Or could this be a reason for this instinct? -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fjordhorse-digest) This message has been processed by Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. Unknown.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels of files were found. For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit http://ses.symantec.com/ [demime 1.01d removed a section which didn't have a content-type header] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Off line
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, I will be off line for a while. I do appreciate all the comments and support you have been sending our way. I need to tend to some personal business and will get back on line as soon as I can... If you all have questions or comments for the Oregon Fjord Club... Amy Evers is on line and she will be glad to comment and reply. Catherine Lassesen, Hestehaven - The Horse Garden, Bed, Barn, Breakfast Baskets, Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw