Re: Fjord Herald

[Jon Ofjord]

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Yeah, they did it again!

We got ours yesterday, but Mary didn't let me have it until today. 
She's gone this evening so its mine, all MINE!

And I get all puffed up if I figure out how to save a sentence in MS Word!

Thanks Sandy and Beth!

Jon in snowy (finally) NE Minnesota





Okay... just when I think the Herald can't get any better... I get my Herald
yesterday...

IT'S AWSOME!  I have looked through it, twice, already.  You guys totally
out did yourselves with this one.  What a GREAT tribute to Winona and
everyone who was there.

GREAT JOB!

Jeanne
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RE: Website updated.. have a look

[Skeels, Mark A (GE Healthcare)]

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Carol:
I visited your web site.  Looks good.  Your stallion still looks like he
has plenty of energy for his age.  He seems like he has a much longer,
horsey looking torso and face than most fjords I see, but there are a
few like that.  My mare has a longer face than her foals, my stallion
has a short face and all but that 1 foal seem to have more his face.
She has had one foal with a long face, the rest, about 6 foals I think,
have had short faces.  Their torso's seem shorter and more compact also,
but I guess the longer torso might be easier to fit certain saddles.
I suppose if you bred him to mares that had shorter torso's you never
know what you will end up with.  I'm not sure what the Fjord Standard is
actually looking for, the longer torso or shorter torso, as I have never
really gotten into that end of it.  I have seen you email a lot about
your stallion, so now it is nice to connect the horse with the name.

Anyhow, the web site looks good, easy to navigate.

Mark Skeels


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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:09 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Website updated.. have a look

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Hello Everybody from Carol Naveta Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova
Scotia.

Just a note to let you all know that we've updated our website. What I'm
most thrilled about is finally having some wonderful photos of our grand
old stallion, Gjest, all posted in one place. Take a look and enjoy. --
There's one group of Gjest photos in there taken last summer when he was
29 years old. You'll hardly believe your eyes.

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #39

[Fhtrp]

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The Vets I have worked with over the years have always made note of horses  
who are turned out on a 24/7 basis do not colic as often as horses who are  
stalled the majority of the time. Horses are built to pretty much move/graze  
whatever as much as possible -it helps their gut to work correctly.
 Over the years I've kept a  tally and the more turn out the better 
health.
  IMHO, Robyn in MD
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Re: Parade

[shawna smith]

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Shannon,
 I talked with Doran and a few of us have committed to ride in it. More
are welcome!! Let me know if anyone else is interested. Shawna Smith
 Colton, OR


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  The Sons of Norway of Portland OR would like to present the Beautiful,
  unique Norwegian Fjord in their Syttende Mai Parade on May 17th in
  Portland.

  The parade route is only 1 mile long with a police motorcade. The Benson
  High School Drum Line will possibly be joining them as well.

  They are prepared to decorate the horses at their expense, with garlands
  of birch branches and red, white and blue flowers. Riders are encouraged
  to dress in traditional Norwegian dress.

  Unfortunately we cannot participate this year however anyone who is
  interested please contact Doran Whipple, Norse Hall, Grieg Lodge, Sons of
  Norway, Portland OR 503-233-0500.

  Shannon
  Kaplan
  www.ChehalemMountainRanch.com













  

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Re: weather woes

[Robin Churchill]

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I know you guys feel real sorry for me when I am
complaining about freezing when the daytime high is 50
degrees.  Us Florida people always make the excuse
that it just feel much colder down here because of the
wind. Last winter when I went to get some roofing
material and it was one of the few days we had in the
50s, they told me I had to get there by noon because
they would be quitting early due to the cold temps. 
You will be laughing in summer when you have great
temps and we are down here flooded and suffocated
getting carried off by mosquitos and no see-ums.  

Robin
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> 
> Robin,
> 
> I will try to remember your hay difficulties the
> next time I'm slogging 
> through snow or warming frozen toes!  I just picked
> up twenty two 1500 pound 
> bales @ $35 per bale ($46 per ton) of a very nice
> upland grass hay stored 
> indoors.
> 
> Janet 
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Re: treeless saddles

[Cherie Mascis]

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Ellen:

Try the Sensation Hybrid www.kaarenjordan.com .  It is extremely 
comfortable, feels secure, and has more weight distribution support built 
into the saddle than most treeless.  You can attach cantle and pommel packs 
to it.  I rode a friend's Fjord in it the other day and it fit his wide body 
very well.  I use it with my Icelandic horses and a Belgian!


Cherie 


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Re: Portland OR 17th of May parade

[FjordAmy]

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Shannon,
 
I believe Catherine and I have this on our schedule already. Hope  to see 
more people there!
 
Amy 
 
 
Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
260 May Creek Rd
Days  Creek, OR 97429
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Re: Adding salt(s) to feed

[Steve A White]

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We do use epsom salts sometimes as a laxative for horses.  However, we
give a large volume with a stomach tube. I doubt the horse would eat or
drink enough on its own to have much laxative effect.  If they are adding
it to feed its probably just for extra magnesium.

Steve White, DVM
Gretna, NE

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Re: about colic

[Steve A White]

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Rosemary and list,

You are right.  The belly tap is a good test to run to tell if a horse
needs surgery or not or if it should be euthanized.  It is relatively
safe and can be performed in the stable/barn by your veterinarian.  It
does have its limitations.  For example, early in the course of a colic
episode there might not be any changes to the abdominal fluid yet, giving
you a false sense that everything is ok. Or if you wait too long to look
for changes to show up then you might be too late for surgery to help. 

The tap does not tell if you have a blockage or not.  It just tells you
the condition of the abdomen and its organs.  For instance, if the horse
had a twisted intestine you would see increased protein and later blood.
But you would also see that if it just had a bad colitis.  If there was
infection you would see white blood cells. Cancer cells will sometimes be
found if there is a tumor.  With foals we will sometimes find urine if
the bladder was ruptured at birth.

As with any test you have to put all the pieces together (history,
physical exam, lab work, etc.) to get the diagnosis.

Steve White, DVM
Gretna, NE

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Re: Adding salt(s) to feed

[Silja Knoll]

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Hi,
  Epsom salt acts as a laxative.  Adults (humans) can disolve it in water and 
drink it.  For children it can be mixed into their bath water if they are 
constipated.  I have used it many times for my daughter and it works fairly 
well.  I am assuming that horses would experience the same laxative type effect 
that humans do.
  Silja

Gail Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  This message is from: "Gail Russell" 


I have a friend who puts Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) into feed. She
buys it at Costco in large quantities. I guess she thinks the magnesium is
helpful. 

Anyone know any more about why Epsom salts might be a good thing?

Gail
As to colic in winter, our thoughts are that we must get as much water
in the horses as we possibly can. -- To do this we have heaters in
alll the outside tanks. -- We feed huge amounts of soaked (really
soaked until soupy) beetpulp, and we put a lot of salt into each
bucket. The salt makes them thirsty and the tepid water invites them
to drink. We monitor the tanks and buckets very carefully to be 100%
sure they're drinking a lot.

We think the soupy,. salty beetpulp is the best insurance we can have
against impaction colic. -- The horses need wet stuff in the winter
because all they're eating is dry hay. -- They need lots and lots of
water, and some of them will not drink enough water unless "forced" to
by salt induced thirst.

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Re: treeless saddles

[Stephanie McLean]

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Check out the treeless group archives on yahoo and you'll find all kinds of
info

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/treelesssaddles/


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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:58:17 AM
Subject: treeless saddles


This message is from: "Ellen Davidson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I know there has been a lot of discussion in the
past about treeless
saddles.I have a friend who is approaching 60,has a very
round bodied horse
and wants to go on long trail rides.If anyone has
experience with one of
these saddles that would be comfortable enough for long
rides,would you let
me know what kind and where to look for one? Thanks,Ellen
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Fjord Herald Spring Submission Deadline

[Starfire Farm]

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Just a quick note to let you all know that your Winter Herald should be 
in your mail box soon. We got ours yesterday.


The Spring issue submission deadline is right around the corner - March 
1st. If you plan to submit an article, you need to have everything to us 
by then (and earlier would be nice).  Now that there is hope that the 
weather will start to get nicer, I imagine more events are in the 
planning. If you have event information that you would like to share 
using the Fjord Herald's Event Calendar, please get us all the pertinent 
information by March 1st as well. We generally include events up to 6-8 
months out from the submission deadline.


Holler if you have any questions
Sandy


--
Starfire Farm
Beth Beymer and Sandy North
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Adding salt(s) to feed

[Gail Russell]

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I have a friend who puts Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) into feed.  She
buys it at Costco in large quantities.  I guess she thinks the magnesium is
helpful.  

Anyone know any more about why Epsom salts might be a good thing?

Gail
As to colic in winter, our thoughts are that we must get as much water
in the horses as we possibly can. -- To do this we have heaters in
alll the outside tanks. -- We feed huge amounts of soaked (really
soaked until soupy) beetpulp, and we put a lot of salt into each
bucket. The salt makes them thirsty and the tepid water invites them
to drink. We monitor the tanks and buckets very carefully to be 100%
sure they're drinking a lot.

We think the soupy,. salty beetpulp is the best insurance we can have
against impaction colic. -- The horses need wet stuff in the winter
because all they're eating is dry hay. -- They need lots and lots of
water, and some of them will not drink enough water unless "forced" to
by salt induced thirst.

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Equine Insurance

[Nancy Blauers]

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Hi Everyone,
Thanks so much for all your research Kate! Equisure looks like a really good 
deal & I'm going to check into it as soon as I finish writing this note.
Like Robyn, I too have become a tropical creature- my teeth chatter at 50 
degrees! And I grew up in freezing cold coastal Connecticut! I plan on 
cutting my work day a bit short & working with my gelding Theodin on his new 
ventures into trail riding. He's been so much fun to train (my first time 
training a horse-ever ) and I love the bond we share, he's such a 
characture!
Since there has been so much discussion about colic & surgeries lately on 
the list and I know that this is such a touchy subject, but I have had very 
limited exposure to horses that have gone through colic surgery- I would 
sincerely appreciate any knowledge that the list has to offer on the 
subject. I was wondering if any of you who had the misfortune of having to 
go throught the surgery could share with me the details, healing time and 
other experiences-  I have always been told by friends who were 
trainers/horsepeople that it is such an incredible invasive procedure that 
many horses have a difficult time recovering. I understand that this can be 
a very painful thing to have to recount but I feel that the more we share 
and educate ourselves the better we can make our choices for our dearly 
loved horses if we should be so misfortunate to face such a decision.

Many thanks to you all and feel free to email me privately as well...
Enjoy your horses!
Nancy Blauers
Geneva,FL

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Yust Ole

[Mike May]

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Sven was out shopping in the mall when he met his friend Ole outside
 the jewelry store.
 "Vat have you yust purchased, Ole?" says Sven.

 "Vell, now that you've asked, " replies Ole, it's Valentine's Day
 tomorrow and ven I asked Lena this morning vat she vanted she said, "Oh,
I don't know, dear, yust give me something wit a lot of diamonds in it."

 "So vat did you get her?" Sven asks.

 Ole replied, smiling, "I got her a deck of cards."

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colic in winter/wood chewing

[Beaver Dam Farm]

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Hello from Carol Naveta Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --

A long time ago, 20+ years, when we were getting going with
Fjordhorses, I kind of bragged to Bob van Bon, Chief Inspector of
Fjords for Holland, that we'd never had a serious injury or illness.
-- He said to me . . . . "That's because you don't have many horses
yet." -- What he was saying, of course, is that if you have enough
horses, even if they're given the best of care, things do happen. --
Or, as Murphy's Law has it . . . "If anything can go wrong it will"
and I've always thought this "Law" applied even more so with horses.

And believing strongly in Murphy's Law as we do at Beaver Dam Farm, we
do everything in our power to keep our horses healthy and safe. --
This involves a huge amount of effort and an extremely conservative
attitude. -- Some may think our way of doing things is overly fussy,
overly conservative. Maybe so, but the result in 27 years of raising,
training, and selling Fjords is that we've only had two major
problems. -- One was with BDF Malcolm Locke when he broke a hind leg
at 2 weeks old. We think one of the other broodmares in the broodmare
band stepped on Malcolm while he was stretched out sleeping. That's
just a theory. It could have happened some other way. -- That year we
had five or six foals. I can't remember off the top of my head. --
Malcolm was a late foal, and it was August and the flies were bad. The
mares were forever stamping to get rid of them. -- We think one of
them, his dam maybe, stamped and broke his leg. -- And we think it
happened in the run-in shed where the mares and foals gather to escape
the flies. -- -- So now, under the same conditions, we don't keep so
many mares and foals together thinking this tactic will lesson the
chance of a repeat.

Malcolm's broken leg was set, and after two marathon surgeries he did
OK. -- We kept him a stallion, and sold him to a breeding home where
he proceeded to sire some of the most beautiful Fjords in America. --
Malcolm is now at another breeding farm in CA.

The other serious incident we had was the imported yearling filly with
the abscess that got into her spine. She had to be put down. I talked
about this a week or so ago.

As to colic in winter, our thoughts are that we must get as much water
in the horses as we possibly can. -- To do this we have heaters in
alll the outside tanks. -- We feed huge amounts of soaked (really
soaked until soupy) beetpulp, and we put a lot of salt into each
bucket. The salt makes them thirsty and the tepid water invites them
to drink. We monitor the tanks and buckets very carefully to be 100%
sure they're drinking a lot.

We think the soupy,. salty beetpulp is the best insurance we can have
against impaction colic. -- The horses need wet stuff in the winter
because all they're eating is dry hay. -- They need lots and lots of
water, and some of them will not drink enough water unless "forced" to
by salt induced thirst.

In 27 years with Fjords we have never had a colic surgery. We've had a
few colics, but never (knock on wood) one serious enough for surgery.
Actually, it seems to me that we've had fewer winter colic incidents
than in the summer, and this tells me that our soupy & salty beetpulp
works.

We heartily recommend this wintertime tactic to keep horses from
colicing.

You will be amazed how much water the beetpulp can absorb, and once
it's absorbed, go ahead and add more water.

Kind Regards,  Carol Naveta Rivoire


Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd.
Phone: 902-386-2304  Fax: 902-386-2149
URL: www.beaverdamfarm.com
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Website updated.. have a look

[Beaver Dam Farm]

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Hello Everybody from Carol Naveta Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia.

Just a note to let you all know that we've updated our website. What
I'm most thrilled about is finally having some wonderful photos of our
grand old stallion, Gjest, all posted in one place. Take a look and
enjoy. -- There's one group of Gjest photos in there taken last summer
when he was 29 years old. You'll hardly believe your eyes.

Our website has grown and grown over the years where it got to the
point that it was hard even for me to get around it. So, that was the
object of the update -- to make the site easier to get around. We hope
you agree.

Kind Regards,  Carol Naveta Rivoire

Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd.
Phone: 902-386-2304  Fax: 902-386-2149
www.beaverdamfarm.com

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Fjord Herald

[Jeanne]

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Okay... just when I think the Herald can't get any better... I get my Herald
yesterday...

IT'S AWSOME!  I have looked through it, twice, already.  You guys totally
out did yourselves with this one.  What a GREAT tribute to Winona and
everyone who was there.  

GREAT JOB!

Jeanne
  - Berthoud, CO



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meadow will
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:44 PM
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Subject: Horse for sale

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Ya i dont know how to make a new thing so i will just post here, i have a
horse for sale in rapid city south dakota.  Needs an experianced rider, but
if
you can handle him, he works really well, built old fasion,  big boned and
thick, red roan quarter horse.email me back if you are interested

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treeless saddles

[Ellen Davidson]

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I know there has been a lot of discussion in the past about treeless
saddles.I have a friend who is approaching 60,has a very round bodied horse
and wants to go on long trail rides.If anyone has experience with one of
these saddles that would be comfortable enough for long rides,would you let
me know what kind and where to look for one? Thanks,Ellen

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