Re: what to do with books and DVD's

2007-07-06 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Friday, July 6, 2007, Pat wrote:

> In my own personal, opinion, MOST books on training should be used
> to fix the broken leg on your couch and the training DVD's for
> coasters.

  I'm really surprised to see such a response from a trainer like
  yourself. I would have thought you'd be delighted to find someone
  who believes they have anything to learn about horses. It seems
  most people I run into believe they were born with a divine implant
  of knowledge of all things equine; there is nothing they need to
  learn about riding or training horses. Perhaps this attitude comes
  from years of watching Western movies which give the impression that
  skill with horses is a inalienable right of all Americans. Anyway, I
  find it refreshing when someone wants to learn more, and when they
  live in the boondocks, books a DVDs may be their only practical
  option.

  That said, several books I would recommend are:
  1. Everyday Training Backyard Dressage, by Mary Twelveponies
 http://tinyurl.com/2ep56m

  2. There are No Problem Horses, Only Problem Riders, also by Mary
 Twelveponies http://tinyurl.com/yunzmc

  The first book seems to be out of print, but there appear to be
  plenty of used copies of both available.

  3. Centered Riding, by Sally Swift http://tinyurl.com/267ddy

  4. The Tellington-Jones Equine Awareness Method: The T.E.A.M.
 Approach to Problem-Free Training by Linda Tellington-Jones.
 http://tinyurl.com/2363gc

  Another that's out of print but many used copies available. Also the
  author has many newer titles, but I am most familiar with this one.
  
  Those were probably the first books we got when we first got horses
  that were worth a darn. As I think of more I'll pass them along.
  
 --
Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA
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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #155

2007-07-06 Thread CrystalZak
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In a message dated 7/6/07 5:35:13 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I live in such
> a remote area that I have no access to a trainer and I was wondering if you
> could recommend books or better DVD that could help me with my training. I
> mean really detailed stuff with progressive exercise that I can really use.
> 

i have found the julie goodnight series of DVDs to be quite informative and 
easy to watch. she has a series of 5. the websiste is simply 
juliegoodnight.com.

i just checked it out and she is going to be on RFD TV both on the 17th, and 
then do a series starting the 25th. i really like her approach.

laurie, and oz, who says he doesn't care who says what, it's too darn hot to 
canter




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Re training videos, and the Yukon

2007-07-06 Thread jerrell friz

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Hi  Yasmine,
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To: 
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Subject: can you recommend good training books, DVD



This message is from: "Nature Friends Outdoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello everybody !

First thank you to all that answered my concerns about Stormy's hoofs. I 
was foolish to worry. I guess I have been reading too much about fat 
fjords and founder... :-)



Hi  Yasmine,
It was not a foolish question, I went through the same thing many a year 
ago.


I have been wanting to say that you live in what I consider the most 
beautiful part of the world, the Yukon. I have driven, and ,or flown the 
Alaska hiway 30 times.
When we lived in Alaska, we would go to Dawson City about this time of the 
year. There used to be a pair of Fjord geldings, that pulled a 10 passenger 
surrey for the Summer tourists. [Dawson City was a big gold mining town in 
the early 1900's, and has been preserved] The driver sat in front in a 
single seat. I'll never forget this turnout.  One pony was close to 15h, and 
the other was around 13h. The little guy had a trot to die for, so he did 
all the work. The big guy never learned to trot, so he cantered. It was a 
sight to see and hear, 8 hooves,  they never were in step.  The driver was 
absolutely the funniest person that I have ever met.   The tour took about 
30 minutes, with several stops, and the driver explaining the history, like 
the famous English poet, Robert Service's house, the head madams place of 
business, and etc.  The horses, know the procedure, there was little or, no 
commands given. They would make their stops, and when the driver was through 
giving his commentary,they were off in a fast trot/canter, to the next stop. 
No bun bag was needed, as the horses always did their thing at stop number 
2. At the end of the day, the driver would go back to stop number 2, and 
load the neatly piled manure in his rig.


As for training videos.
I would highly recommend, Chris Irwin.  I do not receive any money or 
freebies from him for saying this. I have met him and his wife, talked to 
them for a long time, when he was giving a demo., in Southern Ca. this 
Spring.
 And, you know, his place is South/ East of you in Alberta. And, he 
also is a  Canadian.[which is good]
The reason that I recommend him is he is the only trainer [that I know 
of]  that uses, and goes into detail about TIMING, balance, and rhythm, 
He does not carry a bunch of junk with him, like white poles with red flags. 
Or ride with a lariat on his saddle, and wear a big western hat. [In fact he 
wears a helmet]His site is  http://www.chrisirwin.com/intro.html
I would suggest the 2 books that you can get at  www.Amazon.com for about 20 
dollars.  Horses don't Lie, and  Dancing with your Dark Horse. And the video 
, you will have to buy from Chris  . "Ride the Wave "  I also have " The 
Lost Art of Long Lines" they are excellent.   Also, if there are any 
trainers still reading this, if you are not teaching timing the Ride the 
Wave video ,will tell you how.  Good timing, rhythm, and balance will 
improve your dressage scores a bunch.


And Yasmine, you mentioned that you are not a bit changer, this tells me 
that you understand what a bit is for.  So many riders/drivers/trainers, 
etc. think that the  bit is for STOPPING and for changing directionThis 
thinking is wrong in my opinion, there is a lot more to it.


I hope your geldings leg is better and not something permanant..  Horses, 
can be very mean to each other, and a kick in the right spot can do damage.

Keep us posted please.

Regards,
Jerry Friz,
Anderson, Ca.



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BIG Brag

2007-07-06 Thread fjords
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Hello All,

I hope you all are having a wonderful summer so far... We are at
Hestehaven... besides all the work of getting hay in the barn and training,
foaling and just plain relaxing between jobs... we were finally able to
finish a project we started a year plus ago.

It is with pride and pleasure that we can announce that we now have for sale
a video on foaling out your mare. It will premiere on TV in a few months.
The filming company is now talking with 2-3 channels as to who will air it.
We were given permission to advance sell the video. This is a 27 +
(formatted for TV)  minute video on foaling. It shows a live birth of a
Fjord foal and gives instruction as to foaling a mare out. The second video
(to be released in the Fall of 07) goes into detail about imprinting
equines. 

If you are interested in purchasing an advance issue of this CD. Please send
$25.00 (includes postage within USA) to me directly.  ($30.00 for outside
the USA) A coupon will be issued for $5.00 off the second CD... (Imprinting
the Equine).

Both Shows will air on TV soon!


Hestehaven - The Horse Garden
Catherine Lassesen
256 May Creek Road
Days Creek, OR 97429
Phone: 541-825-3027

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what to do with books and DVD's

2007-07-06 Thread Pat Holland

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I was wondering if you could recommend good training books or DVD.


In my own personal, opinion, MOST books on training should be used to fix 
the broken leg on your couch and the training DVD's for coasters.


Find a good trainer, friend with ageless horse knowledge, or a relative with 
patience and common sense and go with self intuition.


Training horses is not Rocket Science.

It takes

Time
Consistency
Confidence
Proper environment
Humor
and patience like a box of rocks.

Pat H   ; )

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RE: can you recommend good training books, DVD

2007-07-06 Thread Gail Russell
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Jerry Friz and Jean Ernest have converted me to the Chris Irwin video tapes
and online material.  Ride the Wave is REALLY good.  Better than many, many
private dressage lessons.

Gail

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Haflinger Type western saddle for sale

2007-07-06 Thread Silja Knoll
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Hello to everyone;
  A friend of mine would like to sell her saddle.  It sounds like it might fit 
some of our 'hard to fit Fjords' so I wanted to share the information with this 
group.
   
She bought the saddle brand new in the summer of '04, rode it some that 
year, hardly rode it in '05, and not at all in '06 (due to the horse being laid 
up with stuff). 
   
  The saddle is in excellent condition, just broken in, has added knick-knacks 
for attaching e.g. a docker, hooking up the cinch, bag straps, etc.  
  It is a BIGHORN Haflinger, fiberglass covered wood tree with Haflinger bars, 
4" cantle, 7 1/2" gullet width, 16" grainout padded seat, double stainless 
steel dropped D rigging, silver conchos, barbed wire border trim, brown, 
  27 lbs.
   
  It was $988.50.- new without the extras.  She would like to get $800.- for 
it, but that is negotiable.
   
  Please contact me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.
   
  Cheers!
  Silja
  in extremely hot and dry Berthoud, Colorado

   
   

   
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help for lame Fjord

2007-07-06 Thread Nature Friends Outdoor

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Here I am again !
Stormy started limping 2 days ago (back left leg) It's pretty bad, and I 
don't know what happened. We rode him the day before and he could have hurt 
himeself in some bad terrain or my mare kicked him. The inside of his leg 
from under the knee down to the foot joint is swollen (not terribly though) 
and he really limps badly. It is also sensitive when I apply pressure. I 
have been putting poultices with some herbs that I know have anti 
inflamatory properties but any advice about poultices or other things that I 
could do would be welcome.


Thanks again

Yaesmine Djabri

(Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) 


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Re: can you recommend good training books, DVD

2007-07-06 Thread MorrisShadowMT
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Hello 
  Yasmine
 
I am a very avid dressage fan and love that style of riding and  training.  
One of my favorite teachers has been Arthur Kottas.He is the Chief Rider of 
the Spanish Riding School of Vienna.  He has put  out a series of tapes 
called the art of Classical Dressage with Arthur  Kottas.   You can find them 
on 
the Internet.   Some times I  see a set on e-bay.   There are 10 or so tapes.   
He is very  knowledgeable .   
 
 
Good Luck
 
Bonnie Morris



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can you recommend good training books, DVD

2007-07-06 Thread Nature Friends Outdoor

This message is from: "Nature Friends Outdoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello everybody !

First thank you to all that answered my concerns about Stormy's hoofs. I was 
foolish to worry. I guess I have been reading too much about fat fjords and 
founder... :-)
I was wondering if you could recommend good training books or DVD. I ride 
english (mainly I don't change bits or go through bosal training but other 
than that I could use wester techniques, nothing against it) and my mare is 
doing well. She is very responsive, leg yields beautifully and I can steer 
her in difficult terrain just with my legs. But from inexperience, I never 
taught her to disengage hindquarter etc...and I would like to bring her to 
the next level (collection, more rythm) As some of you know, I live in such 
a remote area that I have no access to a trainer and I was wondering if you 
could recommend books or better DVD that could help me with my training. I 
mean really detailed stuff with progressive exercise that I can really use.


Thanks in advance !

Take care!
Yasmine Djabri

(Nature Friends Outdoor Adventures ; www.nfyukon.com) 


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