Re: Wooly mammoth Fjord
This message is from: "Jo Wilgus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ha, ha, my hubby and I used those exact words just last night. Regn and Duffers look like something you stick in the dryer and it comes out round, fuzzy and poofie. Very cute. Happy Holidays to ya'll. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA - Original Message - From: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Wooly mammoth Fjord This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Monty has really put the coat on this year, he looks like a wooly mammoth right now, watched him the pasture this am, temp about 24, wind chill of 9 but had sun...he was happily eating his hay and then he went to stand by the barn out of the wind and catch some sun, his head was drooping so low it was almost on the ground and his eyes were shut tight. It was nice to see him so relaxed and just absorbing the sunshine. Nothing better then watching them on frosty mornings, eating breakfast, all 'fluffed' up and cozy. Hope everyone is well and safe along with family, friends and Fjords. Jeanne and Monty Chilly in MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjords catching snowflakes
This message is from: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://murdochmethod.com/Gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Fjords New Gallery photos One of my student in Virginia, Lee Rouse has several Fjords. Lee is also a photographer in addition to many other hats. She captured her Fjords trying to catch snow flakes during the first winter storm here in Virginia - I hope you enjoy these photos as much as I did! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Coccidia
This message is from: Dianne White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just happened upon this article in the Horse.com and although it was about the possible miss use of drugs for performance horses it had a blurb about coccidia and the drug used to treat it. An example of this is the widespread inappropriate use of the drug used to treat equine protozoal myeloencephalitis (EPM), Marquis (ponazuril). Equine protozoal myeloencephalitis is a neurologic disease that requires a complete neurologic examination accompanied by specific diagnostic testing to produce a definitive diagnosis. Ponazuril is an anticoccidial (designed to eliminate coccidial parasites) medication that prevents multiplication of the parasite causing EPM. The drug exerts no initial effect on the horse itself, but it might prove toxic if administered over an extended period of time. Yet, Marquis (ponazuril) is readily available to trainers without a veterinary examination or a definitive diagnosis. Dianne and Draako, who has just about eaten up all the little, itty bitty blades of grass around the place. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #280
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/6/07 7:02:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Monty has really put the coat on this year, he looks like a wooly mammoth > right now, > he and oz might be twins. he's on outside board, and it's been below zero, maybe even -20 tomorrow. he has so much hair that when i ride it sticks out around his girth and makes him look really amusing. when i bring him in to tack up, it must be about 2 inches deep when it's fluffy. he puts all the blanketed warmbloods to shame. laurie ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #280
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/6/07 7:02:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/ > > just what i need, another blog to read LOL...i really like her style, i am going to check it out often. thanks! laurie, and oz the furry ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: ASK 113-A
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Steve/Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ask (Grabb X Mette by Vitol) is a stallion you see in many pedigrees but I > don't > know anything about him. [...] His thirty-five get are mostly > bred by Mr. Bauer and a fellow from Montana named Dave Parker. [...] > I am also curious about a mare named Sally 2022-A AFS (King Harald X mare from > Broadmore Hotel STK). Apparently she was owned by Dave Parker from MT. Dave Parker was an early "player" in Fjords, although I first heard of him in the context of American Spotted Asses (i.e. pinto donkeys)---he founded a registry for them! When I was first looking (early 1986) for a Fjord, I sent him a note; he wrote back that he no longer had Fjords, and predicted, "You will love the horses." >From what I can glean from the old NFA studbook, Dave Parker probably picked up some Fjord-looking mares at sales, and bred them. Two of his mares (including Sally) were originally registered with NFA as having "Sire: unknown, Dam: unknown, Breeder: unknown". (It would be interesting to know when, and how, her pedigree "improved" to what is shown in the NFHR database!) Parker's original acquisitions came in the days before there were any Fjord registries in the US, so the only way one got pedigree information was if it was handwritten by the previous owner. A lot of probably purebred Fjords from that era were separated from their recorded ancestry when they went thru various sales. Looking at Ask's progeny in the NFHR database, I get the impression that Parker probably owned Ask until 1983. Before that date, the only horses sired by Ask were bred by Parker; Bauer's name shows up as the breeder for horses born in 1984 and after. That was about the time that both NFA and the fledgling NFHR made rules against inbreeding; my guess would be that, when Parker retired, Bauer snapped up Ask, as one of the few stallions in the US that were not related to the mares Bauer already had. > Sally [...] was the dam of [...] the mare, Sala who is also in > lots of pedigrees. For most of her breeding career, Sala 2025-B was bred to Ulvar 161-B. Unfortunately, Ulvar's sire (Hei 131-A) was Sala's full-brother, so all of those foals are unacceptably inbred, by today's standards. Ulvar, BTW, was the only foal of my good old mare, Nansy 2071-A (who was also unacceptably inbred---her only grandfather was Solvfast N-1557). In the days when there were only a handful of Fjord stallions in the country, a LOT of that happened! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Kate Seidel's post
This message is from: "safreivald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I couldn't have said it any better myself. I totally agree with Kate, the issue is really humane/inhumane treatment of animals. Now can we please get back to talking about Fjords. Mine is worried that I may start appraising him "by the pound" and find him really valuable! :~). OK smile big, it's a joke. Sue Freivald Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:01:46 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: horse transportation / slaughter This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Hopefully it's clear that I adore horses, and I am pretty sure that I would have to be starving in order to eat a horse. But I don't think I have any more of a problem with people eating horses than I do with people eating cattle, pigs, or chickens. And although it's not my choice, I don't have a particular issue with people in other countries (or this one), eating dogs, cats, guinea pigs, etc. I do object to the inhumane treatment of animals, and certainly transporters to slaughterhouses are often not humane, for any breed. I don't believe horses are treated any worse during transport than other meat animals (but I could be wrong). I suspect it is our devotion to the species that generates this particular outrage only when it involves horses. But overall, I think I would rather see a horse slaughtered, than left to starve to death by people who didn't want it, or chose not to feed it. And yes, I do eat meat, but I put some effort into making sure it led a reasonably happy, natural life and met a quick, painless end." The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
ASK 113-A
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everyone. Ask (Grabb X Mette by Vitol) is a stallion you see in many pedigrees but I don't know anything about him. From the pedigree database I gathered that he was bred in Norway and owned by Gene Bauer (Hestdalen). His thirty-five get are mostly bred by Mr. Bauer and a fellow from Montana named Dave Parker. Can anyone enlighten us about his personality, uses, or conformation? I am also curious about a mare named Sally 2022-A AFS (King Harald X mare from Broadmore Hotel STK). Apparently she was owned by Dave Parker from MT. She was the dam of Alex Winds, Techla, of the poem I sent; and of Molde, Gayle Ware's beloved brood mare; and of the stallion Hei of Willow Ranch, another Fjordie I see in pedigrees a lot but know nothing about; and the mare, Sala who is also in lots of pedigrees. All four of Sally's foals were sired by Ask and they were all productive individuals! I would greatly appreciate any photos of these horses. Thanks, Meredith Sessoms The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horse transportation / slaughter
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kate, yours is a very thoughtful response. The issue of horse slaughter is like most, not always simple black and white. I do think that horses suffer more in the transportation than cattle for 2 reasons. First horses are more nervous and high strung than cattle. Beef cattle have been bred to more docile - they burn off less calories that way. Second animals that have been raised for meat tend to be sent to market in a uniform slaughter size, in appropriate vehicles designed for their species. Horses are sent in a medley of sizes shapes, genders, temperaments. There is no horse meat raising industry per se, just auction buyers picking up the outcasts of the pleasure riding industry. I agree that a quick slaughter death is preferable to starving to death, but wouldn't it be preferable if each horse raiser/owner took responsibility. As an example I had a 17 hand 1400 pound gelding that I had to retire due to ring bone. My decision was to feed him (lots!!) until he died of old age. He had carried me over lots of big jumps and rocky trails, won a few dressage ribbons for me - it would have seemed rude to send him to the killers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hopefully it's clear that I adore horses, and I am pretty sure that I would have to be starving in order to eat a horse. But I don't think I have any more of a problem with people eating horses than I do with people eating cattle, pigs, or chickens. And although it's not my choice, I don't have a particular issue with people in other countries (or this one), eating dogs, cats, guinea pigs, etc. I do object to the inhumane treatment of animals, and certainly transporters to slaughterhouses are often not humane, for any breed. I don't believe horses are treated any worse during transport than other meat animals (but I could be wrong). I suspect it is our devotion to the species that generates this particular outrage only when it involves horses. But overall, I think I would rather see a horse slaughtered, than left to starve to death by people who didn't want it, or chose not to feed it. And yes, I do eat meat, but I put some effort into making sure it led a reasonably happy, natural life and met a quick, painless end. , Kate and Joe (who points out I could live quite happily on oats if I really tried) and Della (who points out that I could do with less of any food) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Update on sick horse
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is this contagious?? Yes!!! It is spread by oral contact with food, water, hands, etc. that are contaminated with infected fecal matter. Humans, cats, dogs and many other critters can get coccidiosis -- wash up good after working with a sick one. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horse transportation / slaughter
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hopefully it's clear that I adore horses, and I am pretty sure that I would have to be starving in order to eat a horse. But I don't think I have any more of a problem with people eating horses than I do with people eating cattle, pigs, or chickens. And although it's not my choice, I don't have a particular issue with people in other countries (or this one), eating dogs, cats, guinea pigs, etc. I do object to the inhumane treatment of animals, and certainly transporters to slaughterhouses are often not humane, for any breed. I don't believe horses are treated any worse during transport than other meat animals (but I could be wrong). I suspect it is our devotion to the species that generates this particular outrage only when it involves horses. But overall, I think I would rather see a horse slaughtered, than left to starve to death by people who didn't want it, or chose not to feed it. And yes, I do eat meat, but I put some effort into making sure it led a reasonably happy, natural life and met a quick, painless end. <, Kate and Joe (who points out I could live quite happily on oats if I really tried) and Della (who points out that I could do with less of any food) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: midwest newsletter
This message is from: "Debbie Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HI Laurie! I am so far behind on my emailsI am swimming.do you still need more articles or pictures or do you have it under control. I could maybe drum up something if needed. Debbie Ulrich Corgi Hill Farm Winona, MN - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: midwest newsletter This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, all. the deadline for articles for the midwest fjord club newsletter is december 1st. so far nobody has been beating down my door with anything..so..write on! send photos...articles..update your ads, whatever. you can mail them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks laurie ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Update on sick horse
This message is from: "Debi Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is this contagious?? Debi Crocker Willow Hill Fjords Waterford, Pa. - Original Message - From: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:01 PM Subject: Update on sick horse This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A couple months ago I wrote to the list about a Fjord gelding that had watery stools. How they had tried several different treatments, and to no avail. The owner did further testing and found out that the horse has coccidia, VERY rare in horses. They did one round of treatment, nothing, another round he still has it and now they are trying again. The water did clear up, so that is good news, but it's pretty much only solid while on drugs. As, he still has the parasite. He also has pretty low red blood cells. Which they are thinking the coccidia is the reason for this. All not helping for this wonderful gelding's recovery. They are pretty worried about his immune system as it's most likely being compromised and with the cold winter approaching and a low immune system, we're just praying he doesn't get sick. I think she will be giving him some liver shots to help with the immune system. All in all, it's a pretty expensive illness. Which she has been dealing with for some time now. Took months to figure out what was going on with him and now that they know, still at least 2 months and they have not gotten rid of the problem. The horse is wonderful, can not say enough good about him, really a neat neat gelding. Anyone have any experience with Coccidia? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: sick horse
This message is from: "Willows Edge Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Update on sick horseThe water did clear up, so that is good news, but it's pretty much only solid while on drugs. As, he still has the parasitecompromised and with the cold winter approaching and a low immune system, we're just praying he doesn't get sick. I think she will be giving him some liver shots to help with the immune system. The horse is wonderful, can not say enough good about him, really a neat neat gelding. Anyone have any experience with Coccidia? Patti Jo Walter Hi Patti Jo & all! My only experience with Coccidia / Coccidiosis come from the chickens, so I'm not sure how it will relate in the equine world, but it certainly can't hurt. An old farmer's remedy is to give the chickens Epsom Salt in their water - making sure it's their only choice for water. Yes, they do get diarrhea from it - trying to clear out the system completely. Then, for a week or so, I added powdered milk to their water - just like they were drinking milk. It has a calming effect on the stomach/intestines as well as will help things keep moving. Again, I don't know if it would work with horses, but it did a great job for a couple of my chickies. On a different subject, we made it through the floods OK - but our poor Fjords from the mid west - particularly Ole boy, just didn't seem to know what to do with it all. They stood out in their paddocks and just seemed to watch. Forget going inside or even undercover. Nope! They wanted to know what was going on. I was starting to think that we may have to teach the Fjords how to swim :-) All said though, the paddocks & new pastures are in really good shape for having a couple feet of rain in a day!! Drying out in W. Washington, Corinne Logan Willows Edge Farm Bothell, WA (425) 402-6781 www.willowsedgefarm.com www.seattlecarriagerides.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Wooly mammoth Fjord
This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Monty has really put the coat on this year, he looks like a wooly mammoth right now, watched him the pasture this am, temp about 24, wind chill of 9 but had sun...he was happily eating his hay and then he went to stand by the barn out of the wind and catch some sun, his head was drooping so low it was almost on the ground and his eyes were shut tight. It was nice to see him so relaxed and just absorbing the sunshine. Nothing better then watching them on frosty mornings, eating breakfast, all 'fluffed' up and cozy. Hope everyone is well and safe along with family, friends and Fjords. Jeanne and Monty Chilly in MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #279
This message is from: "Mary Anne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Absolutely gorgeous pictures on each month which we've gotten for several years, great gifts for everyone including your farrier and vet, friends, and at the end of each year a whole new set of pictures for framing or laminating. They get better and better every year! Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:35:20 -0500 From: "Carol Tacey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 2008 Fjord Calendar ~ Perfect Christmas Gift This message is from: "Carol Tacey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Fjord Friends, It is NOT too late to order your 2008 Fjord Calendar. Perfect Christmas Gift. Calendars are shipped US Priority Mail and will arrive in two days. You can also ship directly to you love one and a gift card will be included for you. The FIRST and only all FJORD Calendar in the US. BUT ... WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT. Order today if you want the calendar to continue. And, this year it is better than ever. All new, beautiful full color Fjord photos from United States and Canada. Professionally printed on 11 x 13.5 glossy stock. http://www.painteasy.com/calendar.html Carol Tacey Totem Farm 319 Waites Corner Rd West Kingston, RI 02892 401-789-2062 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
