Re: Introduction
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com Tori - welcome to our list.? I think we all fell wildly in love with Oslo and Valjo as Lisa kept us up to date with pix and video of their training - although we have not received anything recently!! My husband and I train and have the privilege of working with some of Pedfjords lovely horses, most recently PF Oslo and PF Valjo. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fjord vs. Morgan race
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com At my last barn, before I lost all my nerve and used to race crazy little Joe out on the trails without a care, I regularly went riding with a friend and her big Warmblood.? Joe never broke a trot while the Warmblood cantered his heart out to keep up.? Of course, we did lose ground when we came to logs since I won't voluntarily jump, and the Warmblood would sail over anything.? In Joe's defense, he is an excellent jumper.? I am not. Kate with Della and Joe (who? have advised I might as well use the run-in to store extra hay because they *like* the outdoors and feel no need to get into it for shelter no matter how much it rains) -Original Message- From: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 1:33 am Subject: RE: Fjord vs. Morgan race This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Hope, maybe this little story will help inspire you for your upcoming race... Years ago I beat a Morgan stallion in a walking race w/ my stallion Sven. We were out at a N. Calif. Driving Club trail ride/drive at Hogan Lake.We'd turned back for the parking area, 6 miles away and one of the club members, a real hot-shot businessman (owns a the hay squeeze company, Roadrunner, in the central valley) dared me into a walking race back to the trailers...bragged that his stallion had a killer walk. He wanted to walk because he didn't want to get his horse all excited trotting back to the trailers. Well, you know who won ;~)) To this day, Dave bugs me about how he got beat by that funny looking little cave-painting horse. Good luck! :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjord vs. Morgan race
This message is from: fjo...@hughes.net Back in them there old days (giggle). Our first Fjord, Lyder took his name to heart. We took him on a 3 day trail ride. This group had a bunch of die hart endurance riders and party cowboys. Lyder would not let the silly Arabians past him the first day. We finally had to make him stand and wait. By the end of the ride, everyone knew there was pony power. Lyder was 13.3 hands and about 1200 pounds. Old fashion Fjord or just short and stocky... but a heart of gold and very determined to lead the group. At this same trail ride, a very happy cowboy (drunk) asked to ride Lyder. Rune allowed him to jump on bareback with a halter and go for a test ride in camp. By the time we got Lyder back the whole camp was told Lyder was half zebra. It made for interesting conversations as everyone wanted to know how to get one. Catherine Lassesen www.hestehaven.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords
This message is from: debi crocker whfjo...@surferie.net I aggree the general public has no idea what we are spending to purchase our brood stock then locate a stallion and manage the mare for 11 months then deliver and raise the foal for another 6 months. Fjords are a very special breed. Look at how hard the NFHR has worked to get evaluations going. Unfortunately with the current economy many people can no longer afford to hold out for a decent price and sell low. People think that breeders should sell at the same price or lower as we have multiple animals. Then there are the PMU animals that rescue for $1500-$2000.( and don't forget to add on the transportation costs and they are going to need some ttraining) And people gobble them up! Just my 2 cents. Debi Crocker - Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords
This message is from: Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net Eric Kozowski wrote: Raising horses, especially right now, is not a money making proposition. This is very true, unless you are willing to put a lot of money into marketing and are willing to sell just about any horse to just about anybody, which we are not. These is a glut of horses on the market right now and even well trained horses (not necessarily Fjords) can be had for under $2000. I agree with the not necessarily Fjords statement. The AQHA January 8, 2008 news item states that they registered it's /five/ /millionth/ quarter horse. That's 5,000,000. The Quarter Horse industry has been one of the major contributors to the glut of horses in the market in this country. And I mean INDUSTRY. The AQHA actually /sold/ the rights to the registration number for the 5,000,000th horse! According to Wikipedia, as of Feb 17, 2009, more than 132,000 Morgan Horses have been registered. Compare that to the NFHR recently registering it's 6,000th Fjord and I think that we can reasonably ask more than $500 to $2,000.00 for a well-trained horse. /// / At even the big auctions, like Billings, nicely trained horses were going for $500-$2000. Colts were bringing $50-$250. Hermiston was about the same. Mostly Quarter Horses, I presume. Horses are luxury items (unless you're a professional cowboy) and people are cutting way back on spending on luxury items. Of course. Responsible breeders that I know have been cutting back for a couple of years now, breeding either 1 or 2 (or none -like us) offspring, which is a far cry from the Animal Multipliers (as Wayne Hipsley likes to call them) who don't take quality and the market into consideration when breeding animals. And, we don't sell our horses to just anyone. We try very hard to match the right horse with a proapective client. Therefore, sometimes we DO hang onto them longer than is economical, but do so for the benefit of both horse and new owner. If the initial post had mentioned that younger or (very) green started horses were acceptable, I may not have put fingers to the keyboard. As I read it, the implication was the need for tolerant, trained horses (what I presume to be a suitable horse for a lesson program.) Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: auction - reasonable prices for Fjords
This message is from: Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.com Starfire Farm wrote: ...as of Feb 17, 2009, more than 132,000 Morgan Horses have been registered. Compare that to the NFHR recently registering it's 6,000th Fjord... While this is true, you have to remember that the NFHR just celebrated its 25th anniversary, while the Morgan registry was started in 1894. And the Morgan had already become one of the most widespread American breeds; in demand for farm, military and general use for over a century before the formal registry was initiated. I certainly agree that several breeds have been bred to excess, but I'm not sure it's fair to point a finger at Morgans. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
The Horrible Horse (or anything else) Market
This message is from: Michele Noonan fjordl...@hotmail.com I have to agree with most of the comments made about the reasonable horse prices and the horrible seller's market.. We didn't see this coming ourselves until all 4 mares were bred (and one more bought bred) for 2008 babies. Now we have 4 remaining yearling colts that have not sold and we have them priced for just under $1000. Not even breaking even. We are hoping to sell them before I have to spend another $6k on hay this summer... We bred only two mares last year and both of those babies we are willing to keep and not sell. We probably will only breed one, two tops (and that will be to sell her) this year. We have to re consider how many mares to keep and we have decided to keep our main mare Tone and only Evaluated mares. Of course our young stallion OFI Skogen too. but he can't contribute much for a few more years. Hopefully things will improve in the market or we will have a very flashy gray gelding. We have to consider the cost of keeping the yearlings another year, versus selling them now at a loss. or next year at a bigger loss. This is a good year for trades for sure... I'm looking for a Meadowbrook cart... Anyone want a few yearlings in trade LOL Heck take them ALL! I don't even want to spend much on advertising at this point! Our hay prices, although low compared to everyone else, still doubled last year. That's hard to swallow when you are buying 30 tons of hay. We also had over 3000 in vet bills last year with the loss of our stallion Soren. Considering we do all our own worming and vaccinations I rarely have to pay the vet more than $500 for Show Exams (Coggins and Health) Overall a tough year here in Montana.. like everywhere else I am sure. We all learn from our poor planning.. (The ENTIRE United States I hope) Michele Noonan Western Montana _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
