Re: Digest

2009-12-04 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.com

 For several days, I've been receiving individual messages instead of the daily
 digest. Please advise how to revert to receiving one email a day with all of
 the posts.


I can't say for sure, but your message provides some hope. There has been a
problem with the List server since last weekend. Hopefully, since your
message made it through and since it hasn't yet arrived as a single message
Digest, it is now OK. I've backed off bugging Gabe, who runs
mystery.combecause I sympathize with his being hip-deep in alligators.
Since your
message has arrived, seemingly without problem, I'd encourage all to start
using the List again and we will see what happens.

 --
Steve McIlree
Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List

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Re: Digest

2009-12-04 Thread REENA GIOLA
This message is from: REENA GIOLA wildjavel...@gmail.com

wow, I didn't even know we HAD a problem, just thought everyone was way too
busy to post! :)

Reena
On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Steve McIlree wrote:

 This message is from: Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.com

 Since your
 message has arrived, seemingly without problem, I'd encourage all to start
 using the List again and we will see what happens.

 --
 Steve McIlree
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Re: Digest

2009-12-04 Thread james raabe
This message is from: james raabe jwra...@yahoo.com

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, REENA GIOLA wildjavel...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: REENA GIOLA wildjavel...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Digest
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 10:32 AM
 This message is from: REENA GIOLA
 wildjavel...@gmail.com
 
 wow, I didn't even know we HAD a problem, just thought

Better Trim  er Steve's gona git ya , From a reformed non trimmer.

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rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Anthea Thacker
This message is from: Anthea Thacker anth...@globalclientsolutions.com

I'm new to the list and Fjords and was wondering how they ride?  I've had some
horse people tell me that Fjords ride like a pony - very jarring.  Is this
true?

Thanks

Anthea
Oklahoma

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2009 SS assignments

2009-12-04 Thread Cynthia Madden
This message is from: Cynthia Madden cynthia.mad...@gmail.com

I am sending this again due to list serve issues. The 2009 Secret Santa
assignments have been emailed to all. If for some reason you did not receive
yours or you have a problem with it, please contact me ASAP. TIA.
PS: I have had to redo my website as yahoo deleted their websites. Please
visit my new one and let me know if you like it.

-- 
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
cynt...@carriagehorse.com
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No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses.  ~Herman
Melville, Redburn. His First Voyage, 1849

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Re: rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Robin Churchill
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com

 I think it depends on the fjord. My gelding Ooruk is very smooth to ride and
not jarring at all. The mare we had was more like a pony to ride. I think you
need to look at the conformation and try the individual horse.

Robin in wet
SW florida 
 
  I've had some
 horse people tell me that Fjords ride like a
pony - very
 jarring.  Is this
 true?
 

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Re: rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah han...@ai.sri.com

 Anthea Thacker anth...@globalclientsolutions.com wrote:

 I'm new to the list and Fjords and was wondering how they ride?
 I've had some horse people tell me that Fjords ride like a pony -
 very jarring.

It's an individual thing.  My old Nansy mare had a glass-smooth trot
and a rocking-chair canter---lovely to ride.  My husband's gelding,
Rom, had a jack-hammer trot and a can I bolt now canter that we
didn't use much.

Try before you buy

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
han...@ai.sri.com   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon

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rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Anthea Thacker
This message is from: Anthea Thacker anth...@globalclientsolutions.com

Any tips on confirmation?

Anthea

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:05:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: rideability

This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com
 I think it depends on the fjord. My gelding Ooruk is very smooth to ride and
not jarring at all. The mare we had was more like a pony to ride. I think you
need to look at the conformation and try the individual horse.

Robin in wet
SW florida

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RE: rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Linda Lottie
This message is from: Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com

Oklahoma fjord owners..
Maria and Trip HannahClaremore OK918-341-9037
Jay StewartElgin Ok301 589 9026

These names are from a 2006 membership roster so may be far outdated, but,
worth a try
Linda























 From: anth...@globalclientsolutions.com
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:25:33 -0600
 Subject: rideability

 This message is from: Anthea Thacker anth...@globalclientsolutions.com

 I'm new to the list and Fjords and was wondering how they ride?  I've had
some
 horse people tell me that Fjords ride like a pony - very jarring.  Is this
 true?

 Thanks

 Anthea
 Oklahoma

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #231

2009-12-04 Thread hoofer52
This message is from: hoofe...@comcast.net

Ok, I've changed nothing on my email settings and I'm now getting every 
individual email instead of getting the list on a once a day schedual like I 
used to...how do I get back to the once a day thing? 

DAVID  CONNIE VANHOOF 
FUNSHINE FARM FJORDS 
9609 254TH AVE E. 
BUCKLEY, WA 98321 
253-335-8829 

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RE: fjordhorse-digest V2009 #228

2009-12-04 Thread Gwenn Berard Beaupre
This message is from: Gwenn Berard Beaupre redb...@sympatico.ca

Hi Anthea - I hate to canter, at all, on any horse.  My fjord mare broke into
a couple steps of canter and we did the whole field, I hated to slow her down
(although she was ready for it!).  We'll call it training that we cantered as
much as we did.  The truth is that it was smooth, relaxing and
exhilarating all at the same time.  Her trot is pretty nice too.  My gelding
(her grandson) also has very, very smooth gaits that are ground-eating.
...Gwenn


 Subject: rideability

 I've had some
 horse people tell me that Fjords ride like a pony - very jarring.  Is this
true?

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Ridability and conformation

2009-12-04 Thread PHILLIP Odden

This message is from: PHILLIP Odden n...@norskwoodworks.com

This message is from Phillip Odden in Northwestern Wisconsin where it  
is snowing and the ground is now frozen.


Anthea was wondering about finding a Fjord with nice gaits. This  
question falls into one of my great interests with fjord horses, Form  
and function. So in my experience the horse must have a nice free walk  
and a walk with a substantial over-stride. That is to say the back  
hoof should over-stride the front hoof when the horse is walking like  
it is wanting to go somewhere. Some of my horses will over-stride with  
six to eight inches between the front of the back hoof and the back of  
the front hoof. Next you want a horse that also has a good over-stride  
at the trot. Some fjords have big over strides at the trot. You might  
look at the length of pastern. Shorter pasterns usually means a  
stiffer ride. Longer pasterns make for a softer ride providing the  
pasterns are not too long and too soft. I also look for a horse with  
well developed hind quarters and a nice angle to the shoulder. One  
more thing to look at is the cannon bone to forearm ratio. I look for  
short cannon bone length. When you get all these things in one package  
provided the horse has a good mind and good work ethic you probably  
have a pretty good riding horse. The proof is in the pudding though.


There are fjord horses that are quite athletic many that are not. An  
athletic fjord horse makes a good sport horse and a good riding horse.


Phil Odden

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boarding

2009-12-04 Thread brass-ring-farm
This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com

Hi Tish - you make me realize how lucky I am to have my 2 in the
backyard. Although once this week I had to cut a dinner short because I
was over an hour late to get them fed and stalled for the night (getting
out of my comfort zone, they were probably fine). And it is hard to go to
a movie in the evening, or to a party.
But they are as clean as I like them, and fed on time. If there
is mud or bad fences, it is my job (actually, my husband's) to do
something about it before something bad happens. Always responsibility at
every turn. Worth it though to look out and see them happy in the field.
I think a lot of what we think they like is what we like. Like
the radio thing. If I were in a barn I would hate the radio, but what if
the horse liked country western? If you like it, you assume your horse
will like it I think. I have one friend who had a nice situation except
for the CW radio and her husband, a classical NPR type of guy, made her
move them because he was sure it was driving their 2 horses crazy. Though
they did not seem crazier than usual.
My neighbor boards horses and I hear stories from her side. She
runs her barn like I run mine, so I usually side with her. It can be very
amusing.
Valerie
Columbia, CT

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RE: individual email problems

2009-12-04 Thread Corinne Logan
This message is from: Corinne Logan cori...@willowsedgefarm.com

I don't think my message ever got through either ... I am getting individual
messages even though I'm signed up as a daily digest email. Anyone know what
is happening?

Thanks,
Corinne Logan
Willows Edge Farm
Bothell, WA
425-402-6781
www.willowsedgefarm.com

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Re: Digest

2009-12-04 Thread REENA GIOLA
This message is from: REENA GIOLA wildjavel...@gmail.com

ah I certainly DID trim the message down and only kept one line/sentance.  I
didn't remove the list information thoughmy bad.

Reena
who is an AVID trimmer and always has been.


On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:19 AM, james raabe wrote:

 This message is from: james raabe jwra...@yahoo.com


 Better Trim  er Steve's gona git ya , From a reformed non trimmer.

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no no nooooo

2009-12-04 Thread Pedfjords
This message is from: pedfjo...@aol.com

In a message dated 12/4/2009 1:25:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com writes:

 I am getting individual
 messages even though I'm signed up as a daily digest email.

me 2. Yikes !   Lisa

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Re: Ridability

2009-12-04 Thread Lois Anne Starr
This message is from: Lois Anne Starr loisann...@gmail.com

Regarding the ridability of Fjordies.  As with any breed you will have
individuals who differ in the smoothness of gait.  Of my two, I prefer to
ride Geier, who is very drafty in build.  To look at him, you'd think he'd
be hard to sit, yet he moves smoothly enough that I can sit for long periods
to his trot.  Lana who has a nicer build, I have to post to her trot, I
really get a workout,  since she is much more forward moving.  She still
moves nice, and others who ride her, thoroughly enjoy riding her without
complaint.

I know that there are many on the list who participate in dressage at the
higher levels and their horses move very nicely too.  Some find their Fjords
move better under harness.  Any other Listers with their opinions please
post.  Happy Holidays to All!


Lois Anne, Gallant Geier, Silly Sunny and the Lovely Lana from Montana

Tell me, and I'll probably forget.
Show me, and I will remember,
Involve me, and I will understand.

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Re: Server

2009-12-04 Thread Lois Anne Starr
This message is from: Lois Anne Starr loisann...@gmail.com

Hey Steve:

I read your stuff!  :D


-- 
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Evaluated Brood mare for sale

2009-12-04 Thread Michele Noonan
This message is from: Michele Noonan fjordl...@hotmail.com

Hi all,, We are getting our first taste of winter here in Western Montana...
BRRR

We have decided to make some changes in our breeding program and want to give
someone else an opportunity to use this wonderful mare in their program

Two Rivers Kare is a 17 year old Brown dun mare.. She was evaluated in 2008 as
a 16 year old and got a BLUE in conformation,, not bad for her age!   She has
had two foals for us,, one being a Red dun and this year a beautiful brown dun
filly by Erlend. Her babies are big.

She is on the drafty side with lots of bone.  She has been trained to ride but
would need a short tune-up if you decided to ride her again.. She went on a
short trail ride this year and that was it.  Mainly to pony the filly.

She is healthy and ready to breed again this spring.

Contact me privately if you are interested,,

Michele Noonan
Wild Hair Ranch
Stevensville, MT
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RE: rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com

I believe there are some lines of the sweet, draft Fjords that are born to
bolt.  I have no idea why, but I think it may be true.  I saw a video
recently of a Fjord for sale.  The horse had a look in his eye that led me to
believe that he was a born to bolt Fjord.  I looked at the pedigree, and it
had the bloodlines that I suspected.

Not scientific, and I do not mean to malign Fjordsbut I thought it might
create an interesting conversation to state my hypothesis.

Gail
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah han...@ai.sri.com

 Anthea Thacker anth...@globalclientsolutions.com wrote:

 I'm new to the list and Fjords and was wondering how they ride?
 I've had some horse people tell me that Fjords ride like a pony -
 very jarring.

It's an individual thing.  My old Nansy mare had a glass-smooth trot
and a rocking-chair canter---lovely to ride.  My husband's gelding,
Rom, had a jack-hammer trot and a can I bolt now canter that we
didn't use much.
=

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Re: Barn Arrangement

2009-12-04 Thread Sarah Clarke
This message is from: Sarah Clarke sarahmagdalencla...@yahoo.com

Tish, your post reminds me of why my horses now live at home.  but I realize
it's not a solution all can manage.




Q Usually you find the fly in the ointment after
you've already moved in.
A- Try to visit several times.  Talk to current boarders about what they
like/dislike about the place.

Q $625 for board, charges extra for
blanketing and just about everything else, and mandates some level of
training
at a minimum cost of $165 per month! 
A -Ouch - maybe you can build a barn with payments like that!

Q  Am I too fussy? 
A - no you aren't not for that kind of dough!
 
Q- Does anyone have tips for how to  approach an owner to get
changes/improvements,
A- never ever ever liston to an owner about what they are GOING to do, or how
great the place WILL be when they do ...  Pretty much what you see is what you
get and if they knew you were coming it's the best it ever will be
 
 Q-or how to find private barns that may not be advertising?
A- you could try putting a barn wanted add on Craig's list

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Clicker traiining project.

2009-12-04 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com

In about four hours, using clicker training, I trained my Corgi to run a
complete agility course.  A horse would be a little bit more difficult because
they worry more about breaking a leg on bad footing or being eaten by
something than does a dogbut I bet it would be pretty easy to get this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVLY8YfbEoNR=1

Gail Russell

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Re: rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah han...@ai.sri.com

 Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com wrote:

 I believe there are some lines of the sweet, draft Fjords that are
 born to bolt.  I have no idea why, but I think it may be true.  I
 saw a video recently of a Fjord for sale.  The horse had a look in
 his eye that led me to believe that he was a born to bolt Fjord.
 I looked at the pedigree, and it had the bloodlines that I
 suspected.

Hmmm, I'm not sure that I want to start publicly dis-cussing such
bloodlines, although I AM curious  However, there are a couple of
possibilities.

Years ago, we bought a gelding, R, who we soon discovered had a bunch
of behavioral quirks, the most distressing of which was bolting.  Some
time later, I had an extended e-conversation with the new owner of R's
sire.  Interestingly, for every quirk of R's that I mentioned, she had
a similar story about his sire.  Some aspects of their temperaments
were clearly inherited (R never met his sire, and had been sold
in-utero by the original stallion owner).

A couple years after R's purchase, we bought a gelding, S, and while
shopping, had also tried out his 3/4-brother, T (same sire; dams were
mother/daughter; they were born 2 months apart, and spent the first 4
years of their lives together, as they moved thru 4 owners).  T was
bunchy, and clearly just barely holding things together (windy day,
laundry flapping on the clothesline).  Given my negative experiences
with R, I asked the seller to head T so I could get off safely, and
said no thanks.  OTOH, S was Mr Steady Eddy---totally at ease with
that windy situation, calmly doing what he was told.  The most obvious
difference between them was conformation.  S had fairly good
definition to his back and withers, which meant he could be
comfortable in more types of saddles.  T (like R!!!), was an oil
drum with legs---very flat back, low withers, round barrel.  Many
saddles poke behind the shoulder blades on such conformation, and
indeed, we had to get R a custom-made saddle (which did improve his
rideability).  Conformation can also be inherited, although clearly
these two closely-related Fjords had gotten different pieces of their
parents' conformation genes.

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
han...@ai.sri.com   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon

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Rideability

2009-12-04 Thread Me Kint
This message is from: Me Kint me.k...@yahoo.com

how they ride?
Anthea, I don't have years of experience of riding Fjords, but I have ridden a
number of large horses.  It all depends on the Fjord.  One of my Fjords feels
just like a big horse.  I've ridden a few other Fjords that feel just like a
big horse.  There are some that feel like ponies.  You just have to try out
prospects to see how they feel. Mary in Calif.

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