Jenny craig paddock

2011-01-14 Thread Rose or Murph
This message is from: "Rose or Murph" 


I have found that the really high quality hays are not suitable for my Fjord
as her "complete diet".  This year I bought a very nice somewhat local grass
hay  in Oregon . Breakfast is a healthy serving of Oregon local hay, and
once per day she gets Eastern Wa Timothy Hay usually in the PM, with more
local Oregon grass hay. This local hay has no weeds, or stickers. It turns
yellow on the outside in winter and is not a high concentrated hay.  I use
this hay to fill my horses up. Sure they stomp on some of it, leave some of
it, but they are satisfied and not crazy with hunger in between meals. I
know if they leave a little, then for most of the day they are satisfied. In
years past I have fed complete Timothy as the main diet, AND I have had to
feed very small amounts to control weight. My horses were VERY HUNGRY and
antsy by the next meal time.
 
My horses weight's are just right. This low cal hay seems to keep them
happy.
 
Rosemary in Roy WA, enjoyed 55 degrees today.
 
She's very frustrated. Lots of head-slinging and stomping and  
> pawing if she doesn't get fed fast enough, doesn't get let out fast  
> enough, has to stand in the round pen / arena

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Re: The Porta Grazer, also weight control discussions

2011-01-14 Thread Lori Albrough

This message is from: Lori Albrough 


On 1/14/11 3:37 PM, Karen McCarthy wrote:


From what I know about the set-up costs for creating rotational plastic molds,

I still can't get over how much these Porta Grazers cost!


Karen I was also taken aback at the cost. I guess it's not something 
I'll be getting for my whole herd (of nine, at present) but I still 
think it looks like a good thing, if it works as advertised. Maybe for a 
horse on stall rest, or one prone to ingesting sand.



I have to hand it to them though, this is a really cool idea, but holy batman,
I think I'll stick w/ my big old indestructible  Rubbermaid water troughs for
now. I've used them for going on 12 years now...


I tried the Rubbermaid troughs one time when I was concerned about 
feeding horses off the ground. My horses would just put their heads 
under the hay looking for the fine leaves and then fling all the rest of 
the hay out onto the ground. Or else tip the whole trough of hay onto 
the ground. So that idea didn't work out for me.


Lori

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RE: The Porta Grazer, also weight control discussions

2011-01-14 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: Gail Russell 


There are some big ones for not a lot more that take a whole bale and weigh 55 
lbs on the paddock paradise feeders site Jean Ernest sent.

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Subject: RE: The Porta Grazer, also weight control discussions

This message is from: Karen McCarthy 


>From what I know about the set-up costs for creating rotational plastic molds,
I still can't get over how much these Porta Grazers cost! No kidding Mary.
knowing what they cost I'd hate to come home one day and find them "missing"
from my horses drylot.
I have to hand it to them though, this is a really cool idea, but holy batman,
I think I'll stick w/ my big old indestructible  Rubbermaid water troughs for
now. I've used them for going on 12 years now...

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RE: The Porta Grazer, also weight control discussions

2011-01-14 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Karen McCarthy 


>From what I know about the set-up costs for creating rotational plastic molds,
I still can't get over how much these Porta Grazers cost! No kidding Mary.
knowing what they cost I'd hate to come home one day and find them "missing"
from my horses drylot.
I have to hand it to them though, this is a really cool idea, but holy batman,
I think I'll stick w/ my big old indestructible  Rubbermaid water troughs for
now. I've used them for going on 12 years now...

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The Porta Grazer, also weight control discussions

2011-01-14 Thread Lori Albrough

This message is from: Lori Albrough 


On 1/14/11 12:15 PM, Mary Poe wrote:


 Goggle 'porta grazer' or go to www.Porta-grazer.com.  Hope this helps.


Mary, I watched the video and this looks like a good way to feed hay! 
Very interesting. I would be interested in hearing about the experiences 
of anyone else who has tried them with Fjords.


On the subject of weight control, I believe exercise to be one of the 
most important factors in the equation. I have never had to "starve" a 
Fjord horse, even those that come in here morbidly obese. Perhaps this 
is because they are worked five days a week.


Basic Pony Club rules apply to feeding Fjords, feed little and often (I 
feed hay four times a day and concentrates twice a day) and ensure 
regular exercise (which is simple in concept but I know can be difficult 
to implement with everyone being so busy these days). Unlimited access 
to forage is not generally going to work with a Fjord (with some 
exceptions.)


I think weight tapes are very good to monitor relative changes. Like any 
testing method, consistency in timing and technique is important. 
Testing at the same time of day and the same time relative to exercise 
and feeding schedules will give a more realistic picture of progress. As 
well, be very detail oriented as to where you place the tape and how 
much pressure you exert and so forth. My belief based on comparing 
weight tape readings to scale readings at OVC is the weight tape reads 
about 100 pounds (45 kg) lower than actual.


My opinion is one of the best things you can do for your horse's health 
is to keep them at a proper body condition (not too fat, not too thin). 
I like to see a well developed musculature (remember, the more muscles 
you have the more you can eat :) with "just enough" fat covering over 
top. With a Fjord they should look rounded, not like the flat planes of 
muscle you might see in a Thoroughbred.


Lori

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2011 #10

2011-01-14 Thread Mary Poe
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Hi, Mary Poe here in Santa Rosa, owner of the famous easy keeper Stormy Abe.  I 
agree with Mary about the weight tapes, they are a good way to keep track of 
weight gains from week to week.  If the same person measures the horse in 
exactly the same way every time, placing the horse in the same stance every 
time 
and knowing how much tension you use when pulling ends of the tape together,  
it 
will give you a good indication of what is going on.  Also, buy a scale and 
weigh what you feed.  You will be surprised how much variation there can be in 
a 
flake from bale to bale.  Feed your Fjord separately from others if possible. 
 Details!  My vet says the tapes are not an accurate measurement of actual 
weight but are still a useful tool in weight management. Also, my guy needs 
REGULAR exercise.   

I purchased a Porta grazer for Stormy this past summer.  It is all the things 
anyone could want except inexpensive.  Head down grazing, so far indestructible 
and easy to fill.  It slows the feeding rate quite a bit, which keeps him apace 
with the other horse. Would also be a good container for soaking hay prior to 
feeding.  Goggle 'porta grazer' or go to www.Porta-grazer.com.  Hope this 
helps. 
 Might be sunny here today.   Mary Poe

On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Robyn Kevlin wrote:

> This message is from: Robyn Kevlin 
>
>
> I measured the lovely Gaven yesterday, and according to the weight  
> tape, she's gained 50 lbs and lost 2 inches around her girth. Hmmm.  
> I was in Ohio for 4 days last week (she got no exercise, though she  
> did get hand-walked twice), and the snow has kept me away from the  
> farm for 3 of the last 5 days (got some round-pen exercise and hand- 
> walking on the 2 days I was out).
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Re: the Jenny Craig paddock

2011-01-14 Thread jernest
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Check out these! Hard sided feeders.  You could build something like this.
http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/page/Hay+Feeders+(hard-sided)


>
>Does anyone have the perfect solution? We want:
>1. lowered head hay feeding, preferably on  ground/floor
>
>2. no sifting into the sand because Fjords will pick through
> the dirt for  every microscrap
>3. made from indestructible material but safe for stalls and
> paddocks
>4. easy to fill

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Hay net option

2011-01-14 Thread Lcforward
This message is from: Lcforward 


 If you are looking for a durable hay net, take a look at these products by
Cinch Chix.   The net for round bales is at the top of the page.  The net for
square bales is at the bottom.  I put my square bales in the long, narrow
Rubbermaid tubs to keep them off the ground.  If you opt for the Chinch Chix
nets and want to put them in tubs, don't remove the baling wire until after
you put the bale in the tub.  That will keep the bales from expanding too much
to fit into the tubs.

http://cinchchix.com/the-cinch-products.html

I have a Texas Hay Net also, but I prefer the Cinch Chix products.  The rope
diameter is slightly smaller than in the Texas Hay Net and easier for me to
handle.  The mesh openings are about the same size in both.  Texas Hay Nets do
not offer a square bale net at this time.

Linda

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Re: the Jenny Craig paddock

2011-01-14 Thread BBDRI1
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Robin.I would give the small-mesh hay nets about 1  hour with that very 
determined mare. I just threw out several  Dover nets that had been 
expertly made into large hole haynets in a  couple of days.
 
   Does anyone have the perfect solution? We want:
   1. lowered head hay feeding, preferably on  ground/floor 

   2. no sifting into the sand because Fjords will pick through 
the dirt for  every microscrap
   3. made from indestructible material but safe for stalls and 
paddocks
   4. easy to fill
 
   Is the hockey-net material any stronger than the small mesh  hay nets?
   Any other ideas? I have started to feed the nibblenets on the  
floor/ground now because of what was mentioned about the teeth. It does make  
sensesomething I had never considered until now.
 
Bonnie  (owner of The Fjord Bros, Inc.experts in demolition and  
landscaping)

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