Rose Parade photos

2014-01-10 Thread Caroline Warren

This message is from: Caroline Warren 


I would love to buy some photos of the fjords in the parade to show my  
driving trainer, as she is incredulous that fjords could be that calm  
and well-behaved.  My mare is OK but she's had others that, let's say,  
pushed her buttons.  Everyone looked lovely and I'm very impressed.


Caroline Warren

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Re: Rose Parade...wedding procession (almost)

2014-01-10 Thread Kay Van Natta
This message is from: Kay Van Natta 


 The wedding procession would have been great too but I loved the 
arrangement you had!   And thanks for including the pretty stock seat rider.  I 
know there doesn't seem to be as many of us as there are hunt seat folks but we 
ARE out here, trotting around in our big, comfy leather chairs.  It was great 
to have a rep in the front five!

Kay @ Yellow Pony Farm
In SE MI

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>  wrote:
> 
> This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 
> 
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> This message is from: Me Kint 
> 
> "Question how did you know to have these extra people there as a
> safety net?"
> Parades with horse knowledge/experience require a certain number of
> out-walkers per a certain number of horses. As Teressa said, originally
> we were told (and it was in fact in writing) that one out-walker was
> required per horse! That seemed excessive to me, especially looking at
> past parade photos that didn't have all of those out-walkers...but they
> stuck to their guns until about a month, month and a half before the
> parade...(I think)...and we had to cut down on our numbers. So we reduced
> from thirteen to seven, with only very experienced horse handlers as our
> out-walkers. 
> I did have a plan for making it appear like a wedding party, to make it
> look pleasing if we did include all 13. They didn't say where we had to
> place the out-walkers! So I would have grouped all of the non-horsey
> out-walkers like a wedding party and had all the horse savvy people near
> the carriages. I would have been pretty. Especially since they would have
> all been in bunads.
> Beth
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Re: Rose Parade

2014-01-10 Thread Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


This message is from: Me Kint 

"Question how did you know to have these extra people there as a
safety net?"
Parades with horse knowledge/experience require a certain number of
out-walkers per a certain number of horses. As Teressa said, originally
we were told (and it was in fact in writing) that one out-walker was
required per horse! That seemed excessive to me, especially looking at
past parade photos that didn't have all of those out-walkers...but they
stuck to their guns until about a month, month and a half before the
parade...(I think)...and we had to cut down on our numbers. So we reduced
from thirteen to seven, with only very experienced horse handlers as our
out-walkers. 
I did have a plan for making it appear like a wedding party, to make it
look pleasing if we did include all 13. They didn't say where we had to
place the out-walkers! So I would have grouped all of the non-horsey
out-walkers like a wedding party and had all the horse savvy people near
the carriages. I would have been pretty. Especially since they would have
all been in bunads.
Beth

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RE: Rose Parade hoopla

2014-01-10 Thread Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


This message is from: Karen McCarthy 

.."as Teressa said, nothing can prepare you for that kind of experience,
except being in it!" This is so true Beth, and it really is one of the
biggest
'stress tests' you can ever have with horses. Parades are not to be
trifled  with." 
So true! We have an annual parade in Parker, south of Denver, that was
started by the Colorado Carriage Society. It used be called the Parker
Christmas Carriage Parade. As parades go, it is the most horse friendly
parade anyone can be in. And they still have problems. In the past, a
team of Belgians ran before the parade even got started, running through
a fence and over the top of a spectator who had a broken arm, or
something like that. These days, the parade includes horses and
carriages, ridden or in hand horses and marching bands. No gas powered
vehicles allowed. And they have knowledgeable safety spotters there to
make sure carriages/harness, etc. were all safe. 
"(Luckily our horses had borium on
their shoes as we had heard about this dangerous footing, but we still
gave it
a lot of respect when we crossed it)"
The Rose Parade allows for barefoot horses, but you have to sign a
release waiver saying you recognize the risk. We opted for shoes and
borium tipped nails after seeing the hilly route and hearing about
hydraulic fluid leaking from the floats, etc. I was grateful for the
extra grip when my horses were holding the carriage. I think they
appreciated it too. No need to take chances! And the nail heads allowed
for just enough slip that our horses weren't sore from the shoes being
too "sticky."
We had been told that there would be people out there who would do things
to try to frighten our horses. I did not see that during the Rose Parade,
in fact everyone seemed happy and welcoming, however prior to the start
of the parade, while we were getting the horses ready in "the Pit,"
(which was the closed-down 710 freeway) a guy flew by on a chopper, arms
hanging from "monkey bars" and revved his engine as loud as he could at
our horses and at the group down the road from us. Clearly trying to get
a response from the horses. I hope he was disappointed, because he didn't
get one!
"And I couldn't agree more with Phil when he said that a
parade is " the most unnerving and potentially dangerous horse activity I
can
think of." Amen to that ;-) Hats off again to all of you Rose Parade
peeps +
ponies, a great job all around showing our Fjord breed off at what they
do
best, impressing the world with their unique beauty and kind attitude at
whatever they are asked to do! Karen"
Thanks Karen, and everyone else who gave us compliments. We did not enter
this frivolously! All having parade and exhibition experience, we had a
pretty good idea of what to expect regarding serious, hectic parades.
What we didn't expect was the amount of work that it would take just
satisfying the needs of the RP committee. Paperwork, paperwork and more
paperwork! Deadlines to meetsheesh. It was quite the team effort!
Beth

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RE: Rose Parade drugs?

2014-01-10 Thread Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


 Ohhh, Teressa, now I know you are truly evil;-)
We should have had Holly's kicker in my carriage playing "Whip It."
Beth

Ditto on that Beth. Too bad we didn't have advance notice of the float's
music choice so that it could have been played at your wedding.

Teressa, you wicked person you for putting that tune back into my head!
AGGG! ;-)
Beth

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RE: Rose Parade

2014-01-10 Thread Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


"Despite the security, there were people getting out into the street -
including a kid dressed in a tux walking down the middle of the street
toward the rear of the parade. That was strange."
OMG, that little kid. He must have been about 6 years old wearing a drum
major's costume. He stood in the middle of the boulevard with his hands
on his hips like he was inspecting everything! He stayed right in the
middle of the street as our group went on either side of him. It was
hilarious and Sandy didn't see him, so no photos, darnit.
Beth

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[mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Me Kint
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:52 AM
To: Fjord List
Subject: Rose Parade

This message is from: Me Kint 

The dangers of parades pointed out by Phil... I noticed in the photos
that all of the carriages & carts of the Fjords had grounds people, & the
multiple hitches had people on both sides. Question how did you know
to
have these extra people there as a safety net? Did you contact past
parade
participants, or did parade organizers give out such info to help in
planning, or are you just very wise horse people, planning ahead for all
safety concerns?

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Re: Rose Parade hoopla

2014-01-10 Thread Me Kint
This message is from: Me Kint 


"Parades are not to be trifled
with."
I agree.  Having talked with a few parade participants years ago, I found out 
that just as some people ride trails, others dressage, jumping, driving, etc. 
that some people have parade riding as their equestrian " discipline/pursuit". 
You all deserve a feather in your cap, a medal for bravery, etc.  

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> Parades are not to be trifled
> with.

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RE: Rose Parade hoopla

2014-01-10 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Karen McCarthy 


 From: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" starfiref...@usa.net
..."as Teressa said, nothing can prepare you for that kind of experience,
except being in it!" This is so true Beth, and it really is one of the biggest
'stress tests' you can ever have with horses. Parades are not to be trifled
with. In some of the groups I have ridden in, in large parades, (Nevada Day
Parade, Reno Rodeo Parade, Mule Days Parade) once or twice we've  had to
excuse a horse & rider before the parade when they could not "maintain" & grew
progressively more out of control. Safety is everything IMO  ..."However, our
horses were amazing. They trusted us, they trusted each other and
 banded together as a herd. They tolerated more noise than anyone could
imagine." So true Beth, it all breaks down to trust - and for Fjords, well as
horses go, they have to be one of the most "socially conscious" breed I have
ever been around. They really are defined by their herd, so glad that Teressa
was able to overcome the Parade Marshalls at the end! ..."I am still blown
away by that. Even little poppers started going
off towards the end of the parade, kind of like fireworks poppers. Not
one horse paid attention to that." Ages ago I had an incident at the Reno
Rodeo parade that was one of the scariest things that ever happened in my
"parade history".  Just as we started the parade, with a turn down Virginia
Street in downtown Reno, (which is like riding down a narrow trail in a deep
canyon of casinos with the sidewalks absolutely packed with humans - very
claustrophobic) some little twerps tossed live firecrackers under our horses
feet! We were 6  abreast, I was in the middle on the "baby", a 5 year old
mare, and I told the other riders to bunch in the middle around me, which of
course being Fjords, they were happy to do, and I told everyone to breathe,
look up & smile and the horses would simmer down and then we re-formed and
finished the parade intact and better off than we had started. All of that
lasted about 25 seconds, but it was a looong time! After that, we became the
'lucky ones' that had to stand still at a RR crossing as a freight train
blasted by about 10' in front of us, then a little later on a big Belgian team
we were behind slipped and went down on some slippery exposed aggregate
pavement in front of one of the casinos. (Luckily our horses had borium on
their shoes as we had heard about this dangerous footing, but we still gave it
a lot of respect when we crossed it).After that parade I was so glad we had
planned a nice brunch at the trailers, complete with folding chairs near a bar
(!) for the humans, and full hay nets for the ponies, as we sure needed it
after that experience! And I couldn't agree more with Phil when he said that a
parade is " the most unnerving and potentially dangerous horse activity I can
think of." Amen to that ;-) Hats off again to all of you Rose Parade peeps +
ponies, a great job all around showing our Fjord breed off at what they do
best, impressing the world with their unique beauty and kind attitude at
whatever they are asked to do!  Karen in Oregon where the rains have arrived
(finally!)

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RE: Rose Parade drugs?

2014-01-10 Thread teressa Kandianis
This message is from: "teressa Kandianis" 


See Beth's response to this thread. We weren't required but I imagine the
vets along the route were equipped to handle all types of horse emergencies
and, as Beth said, had my horse needed it, I would have given permission to
the vet.

Marching bands at least take a break between songs - Minnie was on a
continuous loop. ;-)

-Original Message-
From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
[mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Karen McCarthy
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 4:18 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?

This message is from: Karen McCarthy 


Teressa, nice to know they tossed the "cocktail" idea. Probably ran into
some legal challenge along the way. I thought it was kind of odd - but it
was in there in the binder all the same.
'Loving You' by Minnie Riperton - Are you referring to a song that was
playing in a loop on the Rebekah's float just before you guys? Yeah that
would get fairly obnoxious, but better than a big marching band on your
tails ;) Karen

> From: tere...@kodiakfishco.com
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:12:19 -0800
>
> This message is from: "Teressa" 
>
>
> The answer is no. Vets were present along the parade route as were the 
> Humane Society who had horse trailers lined up along the route, just 
> in case. We were never asked to sign any waiver allowing the vet to 
> administer any drug. I doubt any of the horse owners would have signed
anyway.
>
> I have no idea what would have been done had a horse acted up. We had 
> our own safety plan for our group; but we were also driving and riding
Norwegian
> Fjord Horses. You would all have been proud to see what they 
> encountered
and
> how they handled it. We laugh now at our desensitizing efforts prior 
> to the parade as there is no way to duplicate those conditions.
>
> However, I wouldn't ever play the song by Minnie Riperton, "Loving you"
with
> all the lalalas around any of the horses or people in our unit. The 
> results could be catastrophic.
>
> Teressa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
> [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Karen 
> McCarthy
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:19 PM
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?
>
> This message is from: Karen McCarthy 
>
>
> I think what you are trying to say Jerry (and pardon me if I 
> interpreted this incorrectly), is did the Rose Parade management give 
> any of the Fjord horse parade participants a pre-parade cocktail?
> I know that when we looked into Rose Parade participation 10 years 
> ago, we were informed  via the equestrian unit application,  that as 
> part of acceptance into the parade, that the parade vets had the 
> consent to administer a horse a tranquilizer, only if they deemed it 
> necessary for the safety of the parade. Don't know if this applies any 
> longer, but it did in 2003.
> One other thing that also stood out from that application is that they
asked
> if your silver on your saddle was plate or sterling. OMG, we thought 
> that was hilarious!! (It kinda puts into perspective the white-glove 
> Junior League orientation of the Rose Parade org. ;-)
> :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon ::
>
>
> > From: tere...@kodiakfishco.com
> > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> > Subject: RE: Rose Parade photos
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:50:44 -0800
> >
> > This message is from: "Teressa" 
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I follow your question. What do you mean, "what kind of
> drugs?"
> >
> > This message is from: "Jerry Friz" jfri...@comcast.net
>
> > Couple of questions,  What kind of drugs are giving to the horses, 
> > and how often?
>
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RE: Rose Parade drugs?

2014-01-10 Thread teressa Kandianis
This message is from: "teressa Kandianis" 


Ditto on that Beth.  Too bad we didn't have advance notice of the float's
music choice so that it could have been played at your wedding.

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From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
[mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Beth & Sandy -
Starfire Farm
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:25 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?

This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


 Honestly, I would have preferred the marching bands...
Teressa, you wicked person you for putting that tune back into my head!
AGGG!  ;-)
Beth

-- Original Message --
Received: 05:25 PM MST, 01/09/2014
From: Karen McCarthy 
To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" 
Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?

This message is from: Karen McCarthy 

Teressa, nice to know they tossed the "cocktail" idea. Probably ran into
some legal challenge along the way. I thought it was kind of odd - but it
was in there in the binder all the same.
'Loving You' by Minnie Riperton - Are you referring to a song that was
playing in a loop on the Rebekah's float just before you guys? Yeah that
would get fairly obnoxious, but better than a big marching band on your
tails ;) Karen

> From: tere...@kodiakfishco.com
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:12:19 -0800
>
> This message is from: "Teressa" 
>
>
> The answer is no. Vets were present along the parade route as were the 
> Humane Society who had horse trailers lined up along the route, just 
> in case. We were never asked to sign any waiver allowing the vet to
administer
> any drug. I doubt any of the horse owners would have signed anyway.
>
> I have no idea what would have been done had a horse acted up. We had
our
> own safety plan for our group; but we were also driving and riding
Norwegian
> Fjord Horses. You would all have been proud to see what they
encountered
and
> how they handled it. We laugh now at our desensitizing efforts prior 
> to
the
> parade as there is no way to duplicate those conditions.
>
> However, I wouldn't ever play the song by Minnie Riperton, "Loving you"
with
> all the lalalas around any of the horses or people in our unit. The
results
> could be catastrophic.
>
> Teressa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
> [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Karen 
> McCarthy
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:19 PM
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?
>
> This message is from: Karen McCarthy 
>
>
> I think what you are trying to say Jerry (and pardon me if I
interpreted
> this incorrectly), is did the Rose Parade management give any of the
Fjord
> horse parade participants a pre-parade cocktail?
> I know that when we looked into Rose Parade participation 10 years 
> ago,
we
> were informed via the equestrian unit application, that as part of 
> acceptance into the parade, that the parade vets had the consent to 
> administer a horse a tranquilizer, only if they deemed it necessary 
> for
the
> safety of the parade. Don't know if this applies any longer, but it 
> did
in
> 2003.
> One other thing that also stood out from that application is that they
asked
> if your silver on your saddle was plate or sterling. OMG, we thought
that
> was hilarious!! (It kinda puts into perspective the white-glove Junior 
> League orientation of the Rose Parade org. ;-)
> :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon ::
>
>
> > From: tere...@kodiakfishco.com
> > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> > Subject: RE: Rose Parade photos
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:50:44 -0800
> >
> > This message is from: "Teressa" 
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I follow your question. What do you mean, "what kind of
> drugs?"
> >
> > This message is from: "Jerry Friz" jfri...@comcast.net
>
> > Couple of questions, What kind of drugs are giving to the horses, 
> > and how often?
>
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RE: Rose Parade

2014-01-10 Thread teressa Kandianis
This message is from: "teressa Kandianis" 


We were allowed 7 outwalkers and we assigned them to the driven horses, for
the reasons Phil pointed out. Wells Fargo and Budweiser's teams also had
outwalkers...and security people! 

Originally, we were under the impression that one outwalker was required for
each horse. That would have really been unnecessary and unsightly as well.
But early on we had a bit of a difficult time getting accurate info from our
liaison; we later started going directly to the equestrian committee
instead. I had some concerns about the parade officials, of which there were
many, who rode on little white motor scooters around their assigned areas,
units, and floats. A different colored helmet meant different type of
helper. I thought the scooters might spook the horses, NOT. You can't
believe what these horses heard, saw and felt along this route - without
nary a white eye, laid back ear, or spook. There was some jigging here and
there just because the horses were up. 

Despite the security, there were people getting out into the street -
including a kid dressed in a tux walking down the middle of the street
toward the rear of the parade. That was strange.

-Original Message-
From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
[mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Me Kint
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:52 AM
To: Fjord List
Subject: Rose Parade

This message is from: Me Kint 


The dangers of parades pointed out by Phil...  I noticed in the photos
that all of the carriages & carts of the Fjords had grounds people, & the
multiple hitches had people on both sides.  Question how did you know to
have these extra people there as a safety net?  Did you contact past parade
participants, or did parade organizers give out such info to help in
planning, or are you just very wise horse people, planning ahead for all
safety concerns?

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Fjords and harness for sale...

2014-01-10 Thread Amy Evers
This message is from: Amy Evers 


Hello everyone,

Spring will be here before we know it, so hopefully everyone is getting ready
to ride and drive. I'm getting out of horses for personal reasons. I have two
fjord mares 17 and 19, both ride and drive - will sell one or both. I also
have a beautiful set of Smucker's deluxe driving harness that's just like new.
If anyone is interested please Email me privately. I also have a 4 horse slant
load trailer for sale. Thanks!

Amy



Amy Evers
Cottage Grove OR 97424

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Re: Rose Parade photos

2014-01-10 Thread Frederick Pack
This message is from: Frederick Pack 


this link will take you directly to the donation page:
http://www.nfhr.com/catalog/index.php?RPdonation=1

regards,

Fred


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:52 AM,  wrote:

> This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com
>
>
> Well, I'd be happy to Give a good donation to the Rose parade account!
>  Where do we
> do this?
>
>
>
> > This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" <
> starfiref...@usa.net>
> >
> >
> > It looks like I messed up when I setup the SmugMug account.  The albums
> > were not supposed to be for sale. Only prints and low-rez versions for
> > download.
> > Hope you bought a lottery ticket today -- seems like this is your lucky
> > day!
> > Glad you enjoyed the photos!
> > Sandy
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Re: Rose Parade photos

2014-01-10 Thread jernest
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com


Well, I'd be happy to Give a good donation to the Rose parade account!  Where 
do we
do this?

Jean, in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we will be getting our cold weather back 
tomorrow!

> This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 
>
>
> It looks like I messed up when I setup the SmugMug account.  The albums
> were not supposed to be for sale. Only prints and low-rez versions for
> download.
> Hope you bought a lottery ticket today -- seems like this is your lucky
> day!
> Glad you enjoyed the photos!
> Sandy

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Rose Parade

2014-01-10 Thread Me Kint
This message is from: Me Kint 


"The riders have a little more control "
I've ridden in local parades a couple of times in my younger years.  Our town 
parade isn't so carefully policed as the Rose Parade.  A friends daughter was 
thrown from her horse & she broke her arm, I don't know what upset the horse.  
I wasn't thrown when a bratty kid rode his bicycle and skidded into the back of 
my horse (Appy). I did want to hop off my horse & beat the kid with my whip!  
Another parade on my Fjord with Margaret & Barry on their Fjords in Nuevo, 
Calif. was without incident, except after the parade was over, as we were 
riding back to the house, a big semi-truck & trailer went by & Tunix wanted to 
take off!  I learned then that he was afraid of huge trucks.  The problem got 
solved though when a few years later we bought a diesel truck. He learned that 
the sound of the diesel meant "mom & dad" are coming home & I'll get fed, Ha!  

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RE: Rose Parade Roses

2014-01-10 Thread Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


 As Teressa said, we were not required to sign a waiver, nor were we
required to tranquilize our horses or carry tranquilizers (I think the
DEA might have something to say about that...;-). However, we did have a
contact number for the head veterinarian/farrier along with us should it
become necessary to treat a horse. (BTW, my vet says those little
cocktails administered to the horses are more effective as a prophylactic
for the rider/driver anyway...;-) 
In my opinion, in the interest of public safety, should one of my horses
require tranquilizing in order to get them safely out of the parade, I
would have agreed. Until you were actually in it, you had no idea how
jam-packed the sides of the streets were. The equestrian parade
organizers told us that the "escape route," should something happen, was
to go to the left of the boulevard and "exit stage left." Meaning, if
horses ran, or floats lost their brakes, etc., the runaways would go to
the left and the untroubled participants would stay right...having
experienced it now, it would have been difficult to do that easily. But I
did see ambulances, tow trucks and horse trailers staged on the side
streets on the left side of the road along the route, so the organzers
were prepared.
We did do our homework to expose them as much as possible to the weird,
unusual, looming, approaching, loud, etc., etc. But, as Teressa said,
nothing can prepare you for that kind of experience, except being in it! 
However,
our horses were amazing. They trusted us, they trusted each other and
banded together as a herd. They tolerated more noise than anyone could
imagine. I am still blown away by that. Even little poppers started going
off towards the end of the parade, kind of like fireworks poppers. Not
one horse paid attention to that.
On a side note, my vehicle was an antique carriage and was the only
four-wheel carriage that did not have brakes. My wheelers held that
carriage, loaded with 5 passengers and two whippets, on all of the up and
down slopes. Sometimes they had a little help from the leaders on the
up-slopes, but not the down. And we did plenty of stopping/standing on
the down slopes!
Something that the parade organizers did for us that they have not done
before was to allow our riding and carriage horses to stay together as a
unit, entering the parade as a unit. Normally, they separate the carriage
horses from the riding horses. Now that might have caused us some
problems for us! The parade volunteers at the end of the parade didn't
get that memo, however, and tried to separate us on our way to the
disbanding area. Teressa got in that guys face and told him otherwise
she was an amazing marshal in a number of ways. Perfect for that job!
So, Hip Hip Horrah! for our horses. I love them even more.
Beth

This message is from: Cindy B Giovanetti 

Seriously, did the parade organizers require you to carry tranquilizers
in
case a horse freaked out?

Cindy

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Re: Rose Parade photos

2014-01-10 Thread jernest
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com


Wonderful Photos!  One suggestion:  It would be nice to be able to use Pay Pal 
for
payment!

Jean in Alaska

> This message is from: "Teressa" 
>
>
> Hello all: We are still sorting everything out – lots of photos taken!
>
>
>
> Here’s a link to a selection of Sandy North’s photographs she uploaded to
> SmugMug.
>
>
>
> http://norwegianfjords.smugmug.com/
>
>
>
> If you order these photos, the profits will go to the Rose Parade fund.
> Thanks to Sandy for doing all this work sorting and posting and setting it
> up. The Parade route from staging to disbanding was 6 ½ miles and Sandy must
> have run 20 miles to get all these views.
>
> You can look at these and if you wish to order, follow the instructions –
> you can order the whole shootin’ match to download to your computer – the
> resolution won’t be such that they can be blown up and won’t be suited for
> publication but perfect for personal use and for sending a photo or two to
> family and friends. And you can order any size of each photo.
>
>
>
> I just gave it a test run and its working perfectly. (Have to have pictures
> to send to my mom!)

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Rose Parade

2014-01-10 Thread Me Kint
This message is from: Me Kint 


The dangers of parades pointed out by Phil...  I noticed in the photos that 
all of the carriages & carts of the Fjords had grounds people, & the multiple 
hitches had people on both sides.  Question how did you know to have these 
extra people there as a safety net?  Did you contact past parade participants, 
or did parade organizers give out such info to help in planning, or are you 
just very wise horse people, planning ahead for all safety concerns?

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RE: Rose Parade drugs?

2014-01-10 Thread Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Beth & Sandy - Starfire Farm" 


 Honestly, I would have preferred the marching bands...
Teressa, you wicked person you for putting that tune back into my head!
AGGG!  ;-)
Beth

-- Original Message --
Received: 05:25 PM MST, 01/09/2014
From: Karen McCarthy 
To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" 
Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?

This message is from: Karen McCarthy 

Teressa, nice to know they tossed the "cocktail" idea. Probably ran into
some
legal challenge along the way. I thought it was kind of odd - but it was
in
there in the binder all the same.
'Loving You' by Minnie Riperton - Are you referring to a song that was
playing
in a loop on the Rebekah's float just before you guys? Yeah that would
get
fairly obnoxious, but better than a big marching band on your tails ;)
Karen

> From: tere...@kodiakfishco.com
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:12:19 -0800
>
> This message is from: "Teressa" 
>
>
> The answer is no. Vets were present along the parade route as were the
> Humane Society who had horse trailers lined up along the route, just in
> case. We were never asked to sign any waiver allowing the vet to
administer
> any drug. I doubt any of the horse owners would have signed anyway.
>
> I have no idea what would have been done had a horse acted up. We had
our
> own safety plan for our group; but we were also driving and riding
Norwegian
> Fjord Horses. You would all have been proud to see what they
encountered
and
> how they handled it. We laugh now at our desensitizing efforts prior to
the
> parade as there is no way to duplicate those conditions.
>
> However, I wouldn't ever play the song by Minnie Riperton, "Loving you"
with
> all the lalalas around any of the horses or people in our unit. The
results
> could be catastrophic.
>
> Teressa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com
> [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Karen McCarthy
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:19 PM
> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> Subject: RE: Rose Parade drugs?
>
> This message is from: Karen McCarthy 
>
>
> I think what you are trying to say Jerry (and pardon me if I
interpreted
> this incorrectly), is did the Rose Parade management give any of the
Fjord
> horse parade participants a pre-parade cocktail?
> I know that when we looked into Rose Parade participation 10 years ago,
we
> were informed via the equestrian unit application, that as part of
> acceptance into the parade, that the parade vets had the consent to
> administer a horse a tranquilizer, only if they deemed it necessary for
the
> safety of the parade. Don't know if this applies any longer, but it did
in
> 2003.
> One other thing that also stood out from that application is that they
asked
> if your silver on your saddle was plate or sterling. OMG, we thought
that
> was hilarious!! (It kinda puts into perspective the white-glove Junior
> League orientation of the Rose Parade org. ;-)
> :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon ::
>
>
> > From: tere...@kodiakfishco.com
> > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
> > Subject: RE: Rose Parade photos
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:50:44 -0800
> >
> > This message is from: "Teressa" 
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I follow your question. What do you mean, "what kind of
> drugs?"
> >
> > This message is from: "Jerry Friz" jfri...@comcast.net
>
> > Couple of questions, What kind of drugs are giving to the horses, and
> > how often?
>
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Rose Parade

2014-01-10 Thread Phillip Odden
This message is from: Phillip Odden 


This message is from Phillip Odden in Northwestern Wisconsin where the temps 
are again above zero and approaching 32 today but with freezing drizzle. 

In my book Parades are the most unnerving and potentially dangerous horse 
activity I can think of. In the end there has to be a mighty good trust and 
respect bond between the horses and handlers. The riders have a little more 
control than the drivers and the damage from a ridden horse out of control is 
probably less than a horse drawn carriage out of control. 

There is always a lot of hurry up and wait in Parades in my experience. So with 
all the hoopla the horses move for a while and then must stand with tons of 
excitement and stimulation in the air. If you need to hold them back with the 
bit constantly they don’t get bit relief and often their anxiety can build. 
Driving four horses down the parade route with little more than trust and a 
prayer for the lead pair takes a lot of courage. The whole deal took a lot of 
courage, careful planning, hard work and a real “ get her done attitude” I am 
sure. 

Certainly our NFHR Fjord team had great leadership with competent riders and 
drivers and first class horses. It seems a little disclaimer might be in order 
for those who might now plan to do a local parade at home inspired by the Rose 
Parade. Best be prepared. They made it look easy but it wasn’t.

So again, Hats Off to those who made it happen. You made us all proud. 

Phil Odden

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