Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #347
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Gayle, Thank you for your kind remark on the list. Having had livestock for many years I certainly have had to deal with loss before, but my fjords are my family in a way my other animals were not, although I didn't know how much until the loss. I found my mare standing in the pasture unable to walk, but because I called her she hobbled over to me and then without much resistance just alot of resting she followed me down to the barn which was quite far. I was absolutely determined that I would spare no expense and go deeper in debt to save her, but after much consultation with vets , I realized that it was selfish of me to condemn her to a life of chronic pain. With no halter on, the day the vet came to put her down, she just hobbled out of the stall by my side into the yard where the vet euthanized her. She is buried near my hay field. There has not been one day since then that I have not thought of her, and she was the first of the six horses that died before the turn of the year, of which two were pregnant mares. It does take courage, but I can tell you that the Fjord community showed me an incredible amount of support. I have never been a person that was good at asking for help or receiviing it when offered however, my situation was pretty dire after having had all my horses at Tufts Vet school because of the botulism poisoning. I was so completely shell shocked by the whole experience that I just withdrew and let my friends take over. There were many heros who came forth to help me, some from the Fjord community , some from the horse community at large. I am proud to be a member of such a compassionate group of people. I will forever be grateful to Richard and Sue Giargiari for the tremendous generosity of spirit that they showed towards me. I hope someday you all will know how incredibly special these people are. Not only did they donate a foal which was raffled off to help raise money to pay my horrendous vet bills, but they were here at my farm and at the vet school during the crisis, they buried one of my foals at their farm for me, they took care of my farm while I was at Tufts, despite the fact that they live an hour and a half away from me, they drove into Boston to pick up the antitoxin at the airport, they helped clean all my barns of every trace of haylage and then transported and burned at least 7, pounds of it. Of course , this whole thing took place over Christmas. That however was just the beginning, they were there for me during the aftermath, the sleepless nights, the uncontrollable grief, the loss of my direction and complete loss of confidence in myself. Richard and Sue have been holding my hands every step of the way. Perhaps it is that Fjords just attract a certain kind of person but although I lost forever a large chunk of my heart, the hole that was left gaping has been filled with some very, very wonderful people from this community. Sorry that I have been so long winded but I know that some of you have met Sue Giargiari through this list and I just wanted everyone to know what a great friend she has been to me.
Premium list from NFHR
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, I am a little confused by the list you printed since I know of other horses that are first premiums and are not listed, my mare Eivy is one example, did she not come up because she is listed as a (ster) or star mare? Although Velsigne was listed and she also was a ster mare. You can make a note however that she is now deceased as she was one of the casualties of last winter. I had to put her down because of a broken leg, she was in foal. I think it was the hardest thing I have ever done. Her son Soren was the second young horse to die from the botulism poisoning, so Ursula you have the last surviving son of this exceptionally beautiful mare. Brian Jenson has her last filly. Anyway, all ster mares or geldings are first premium horses in addition they have been judged (this is in the Dutch system) to be in the top half of the class in a class made up of only first premium horses, and have gotten an A on one of the three performance tests. So any list of 1 premium horses should include all ster and model mares and geldings Anyway, its extremely nice ofyou Mike to publish info from the Registry records. Its nice to know how accessible that info can be now. Thanks for all your hard work. Now that I am crawling out of my cave , I guess I better get up to speed with the Registry. I will be in touch with you soon. Thanks C.
Freya
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lori, I am quite sure Freya got her wonderful personality, her excellent mothering skills, and her calm and willing work ethic, not to mention her good looks from her mother Cindy, which as I recall you own! Correct? I actually put more weight on the dams than on the sires. I feel that all though technically a foal receives half of its genes from each parent, the foal is raised by the dam and therefore her personality, her milking ability, her reactiveness, are all more influential over the foals development, so kudos to Cindy because Freya is in many ways the quintessential Fjord. Did I mention that she is beautiful?! Hi Pamela, I am not just a neophyte on the computer, I am approaching Neaderthal! I have a friend who will scan some photos for me so I will try to send them to your personal address since I understand that you are not supposed to send pictures onto the list. If I can't get that to work I would be happy to send you a picture of her because we have used her on all of our farm advertising. Anyone who made a donation to the fund that was set up for me last year by Richard and Sue Giargiari of Felicty Fjords received a drawing of a mare and foal that was done by Liza Tivey. The mare was Freya, with her Solar filly, Molly. Vivian Creigh owns two of her daughters, Nykka and Oksana, by Konggard. Ursula Jenson owns a full sister named Ryetta( excuse me Ursula, I've forgotten how to spell her name!). I think Nykka's photo was in the Herald once or twice. Anyway I would be happy to send you something if I can figure out how. Please be patient. I would be interested to know if there are other Brusvein offspring in the US. I suspect Carol Rivoire might know some. Does anyone know of any and where they might be? Lynda, your contributions about the Norse traditions is terrific. The names are beautiful and to have you put so much effort into sharing what you find is very appreciated. Thanks,C.
Brusvein and Hi, Bill
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill , its a virtual miracle that I am on the computer at all. I am having a blast and I love checking my e-mail. How are you managing with all the ice? How many mares do you have in foal this year? How is Ring doing, how old is he now? You would have enjoyed a day in December when a few Fjord friends and I pulled logs out of my woods for firewwod for my neighbor. We had one single, my mare Eivy, a team on a forecart, and a team of oxen with a sled. It was a long haul up a hill, but it was a beautiful, mild day . We had a pot luck later. We will probably do it again one of these days, do you think you might like to join us with your horses? RE: Brusvein, you have very good taste! He was the champion stallion in Norway before he was imported to Holland. He is currently a Sterhengst, Keurhengst, and Preferentehengst in the Dutch studbook. I have two of his daughters. Freya has been my most consistent producing mare, she has had two foals by Solar, and five foals by Konggard and she is in foal now. All the while she has been used every summer for camp, driving lessons , and trailriding. Did I mention that she is beautiful!? She and her half sister Elda, went to Equine Affaire and Lindsay Sweeney rode Elda and drove Freya in a tandem for our breed demo. Elda was ridden at Equine Affaire in a clinic with Robin Brueckman and we were doing lovely shoulder ins in front of a large crowd. It was great fun and Elda was already showing her considerable girth from being in foal , besides the considerable girth that is just her normal way of being. Hostar, is a very cool dude and the Wichs have had lots of beautiful babies out of him. I suspect that there are other Brusvein offspring in the US, I don't know where they are though. Cheers from the dreary, icy Northeast. C
Introduction and Milk Thistle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, my name is Ceacy Henderson, I live in Colrain, Massachusetts. The name of my farm is Penfrydd Horse farm, I have twelve horses , all are Fjords except one, a Hungarian mare bred to a Lippizan stallion. I have a stallion named Konggard, hence the name on the address. I had heard that there were folks on the list that were curious about our experiences with John Lyons at Equine Affaire. I would be happy to answer any questions as to what happened etc. I am the person that last year lost a number of horses to botulism poisoning. I know that there was some misinformation that went out on the internet about what happened and I would be very willing to answer questions about that as well. I am an avid clicker trainer, and in reading old list dialogues, I know that there are some others of you out there, I would love to share training ideas. I use my Fjords for just about everything, although my draft skills are nothing to brag about. Although, I am currently not in a position to compete at this time, I have enjoyed competing in CDEs . I run a summer horsemanship program for kids using my Fjords as school horses, and I have this past year been part of the group from the Northeast that went to Equitana and Equine Affaire. I am a Basic Centered Riding instructor and certified with ARICP in Recreational Riding and Driving. In response to the person who requested information about Milk Thistle, using A Modern Horse Herbal, by Hilary Page Self as a reference, she has this to say about the uses of this plant: Milk thistle is most famous for its ability to protect and improve liver function, and to speed up the regeneration of liver cells. It increases bile secretions from the liver. Milk thistle has undergone extensive trials in Europe and the US. It has been shown to lower fat deposits in the liver of animals and to protect the liver from damage by drugs and poisons. Unfortunately she does not cite the "trials". However, she says that the parts used are the seeds collected when fully ripe. and that a dose of 10-15 grams a day for 4-6 weeks is necessary for therapeutic effect. As far as finding a source, I can offer two addresses which might be of use ; Wendals Herbs : http://www.wendals.com Chamisa Ridge: http://www.chamisaridge.com Anyway, I hope that is of some help. The last few years have been very difficult for me and I feel as though I have fallen of the Fjord map sort of speak, I am still here and getting back on my feet. Thanks to all of you who offered so much support this past year. I look forward to getting back in touch.
Introduction and Milk Thistle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hi, My name is Ceacy Henderson from Penfrydd Horse Farm in Colrain, Ma. I am new to the list, and a real neophyte on the computer. I have twelve horses of which all but one are fjords, the other is a Hungarian mare bred to a Lippazan stallion. My stallion's name is Konggard, and I heard that there were people on the list who wanted to know about our experiences with John Lyons. If so let me know what it is you wanted to know and I will be happy to reply. I am the person who had the problem with botulism poisoning last year and I would also be happy to answer any questions related to that since I understand that some misinformation got onto the internet. I am an avid clicker trainer and I have read some old list dialogues that indicate that there are others out there that use clicker training. I would love to compare ideas. Specifically, I would like to respond tp the request for info on Milk Thistle. Using A Modern Horse Herbal, by Hilary Page Self, copy 1996, Kennilworth Pres as a reference. . The parts used are the seeds, at a dose of10-15 grams daily for 4-6 weeks. Milk Thistle is used to protect and improve liver function, speed up the regeneration of liver cells, and increase bile production. According to her book, Ms. Page claims that this herb had undergone " extentensive trials in Europeand the US. It has been shownto lower fat deposits in the liver of animalsand to protect the liver from damage by drugs and poisons". Unfortunately she does not cite these studies. As far as sources for the herb, I can offer two addresses; Wendals Herbs : http://www.wendals.com Chamisa Ridge: http://www.chamisaridge.com I hope this helps. I look forward to becoming part of this community of fjord enthusiasts, I've had a long, hard past few years and I feel like I have fallen off the map sort of speak. I am still here and I am glad that you are too. Thanks. C.
