Re: Briksdalen Glacier

2002-11-16 Thread Michael Bickman
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Patty Jo Walter wrote:

I would encourage anyone to go there, it was beautiful and a neat ride up
the glacier and across the water fall, it was s loud and you got a little
wet.

I'll second that.  We visited Norway in the summer of 1999 and hiked the trail
to the Briksdalen glacier.  We saw the Fjord horses and their carts all around
the area and spent some time with them.  This was our first up close
experience with Fjord horses, and ultimately led to our buying some land,
building a horse farm and acquiring 3 Fjords.  So, I guess it was the most
expensive vacation we've ever taken -- but worth every penny -- :)).  The
picture on my desk is of that glacier, which is in the Norwegian equivalent of
one of our National Parks.  It shows us standing at the foot of the glacier,
between fissures that are taller than us.

If you go to Norway, it's well worth making a trip to that glacier.


Mike and Cindy Bickman
Stepping Stone Farm
Canton, GA



Briksdalen Glacier

2002-11-15 Thread Lassesen
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Patti Jo Walter: You are correct. A Japanese elderly woman was killed in the
run-a-way.  They thought it to be a bee that stung the horse, but they never
knew why the gelding ran.  At the Nordfjordeid Hotel, they have the regional
yearbooks on the center bookshelves.  The story was in one of the yearbooks.
If you ever go back to Nordfjordeid... you can read about it (in Norwegian)
there.

Catherine Lassesen



RE: Briksdalen Glacier

2002-11-15 Thread Dagrun Aarsten
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Hi Patti Jo and everyone,

yes, I heard about the accident with the Japanese people a few years ago,
although I didn't remember anyone dying! The fjord people all over Norway
were furious since it seemed to be a combination of green
horse/unexperienced driver and should never have happened. It seems to be an
age-old Norwegian tradition that when going up or down steep hills, the
driver walks on the side to spare the horse. It is certainly not a thing to
recommend... I have seen some wonderful partnerships between people and
their horses, and then it doesn't bother me, when they are a team that has
been working together for years and the horse is extremely reliable.

Hmmm - did a web search and found some more information - there was an
accident this summer with a horse bolting. This time with a driver with more
than 30 years experience, but a relatively green horse. Nobody was able to
explain why he bolted. The runaway horse and cart hit two other carts on the
way, two carts tipped and the people fell out. Nobody was seriously injured
but 9(!) people were taken to the hospital for checkups. All Korean this
time. The horse and the other two horses involved were taken out of service
immediately, and the spokesman only said that these things happen once in a
while with live animals. People don't do lawsuits in Norway...

But there was a reference to the accident you mentioned in 1999 and sure
enough, one woman died after a week in hospital, of internal injuries
(whatever that translates to in correct English). Pretty scary.

I still haven't been to Briksdalen myself, I've just seen the pictures on
all the postcards :-) It is gorgeous, and I am pretty sure I would risk it.
Are the carts easy to jump out from...?

Dagrun

  You gotta
 love Norway,
 in America they would have shut the place down, although I guess
 they don't
 know the meaning of getting hurt!

 Patti Jo Walter



Briksdalen Glacier

2002-11-14 Thread Dave Patti Jo Walter
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Dagrun, I can make my Briksdalen adventure even more interesting.  For one, I
could not get over the fact that our driver was NOT in the cart but walking
next to the cart.  I, being a more nervous American, said, NOW remember if
you get into any trouble, THROW those reins up here!!  She just smiled.  Then
we started talking Fjords.  She told me they have 40 Fjord horses that work
giving rides at this glacier, 20 per day. Most are owned by people living near
by.  I didn't see any grays, saw some reds, so asked her if they had any
grays.  She looked at me very strangely and said, why, did you hear what
happened?. I looked at my husband and we both said, No, what happened?  She
went on to say, well last week, there was a run away with a gray gelding.
The horse got away from the driver and ran down the hill with the passengers
in the cart.  She said, we figured the driver fell asleep.  Wanting more
clarification on to HOW you can fall asleep WALKING, but also on what happened
to the people, I just asked, was anyone hurt???.  Not really she said, Oh,
well another driver tried to stop it and got run over, he broke his leg.
The horse stopped at the bottom.  Well what about the passenagers?  Well
they were from Japan,and they had to be taken to the hospital
Were they hurt?  No not really, she did died from her heart but she wasn't
hurt.  We just looked at each other and thought are we losing something in
the translation!!!  It was rather funny if it wasn't so sad!  After I heard
that I kept asking her if she was doing ok.  I REALLY WANTED THOSE REINS!!!  I
also loved the cart, it was a 2 seated 2 wheeled vehicle.  You can push the
back seat up behind the first seat if you don't need it or you can push it
back if you need it for more people.  Really neat.  I would encourage anyone
to go there, it was beautiful and a neat ride up the glacier and across the
water fall, it was s loud and you got a little wet.  The horses were all
use to it, but it was loud, the path is a little narrow and the drop off is
steep but if I could handle it anyone could.  Just make sure you tell your
driver to throw the reins up in case of any trouble!!!  You gotta love Norway,
in America they would have shut the place down, although I guess they don't
know the meaning of getting hurt!

Patti Jo Walter