RE: Cougar - northwest WI
This message is from: Linda Lottie Susan..yes, I went out one morning and she was scratched and bitten. She is old, limps and does not hear real well..perfect for breakfast :) My great white pyr, Kodiak, has been so busy lately. He runs from one end of the driveway to the other. I see him sniffing the air.then he rushes off and "woofs". A mother bear and her three cubs spent the entire season in our area last year. Wonder if they are starting to move around? Our weather was horrible today..WINDY, sleet and cold. I took TWO naps - hahaha Linda in WI Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center "Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together" Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:51:25 -0700 > From: smc_...@yahoo.com > Subject: Cougar - northwest WI > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: Susan Cargill > > Linda Lotti - I've been watching the cougar news with interest. Our neighbor > and her mother used to walk the Tuscobia Trail which separates our > farm into two pieces. They reported seeing a large tail several times > as they were walking - the neighborhood was pretty sure it was a cougar. > They quit walking. We love living in the northwoods but it does come > with some excitement at times. I didn't know that your Gotland had been > attacked. > > We live above 45-50 miles south of Linda where the eagles soar, the wolves > roam and the bears are everywhere and coming out of hibernation. > > Its my belief that each person knows their own capacity whether its importing > new fjords or determining when to breed or not breed. In general I think the > majority of fjord owners do an excellent job of determining what is best for them and > their fjords. I have two mares coming in on the lift from Germany. And, one of them is > pregnant carrying a foal by Dexter. We have the time, space and capacity to keep > all of our fjords well fed, visited by the vet and farrier regularly and they are all well > loved. > > Susan Cargill Longtheway Farm > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland
This message is from: Linda Lottie Thanks for the information.and yes, I think the one here is a male. LInda Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center "Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together" Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com > From: jb...@sleepyeyetel.net > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: RE: update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:14:49 -0500 > > This message is from: "Jim Barnhart" > > We've had some cougar sightings over the years here in SE Minnesota. One > was photographed about 10 mies from our home as it sat in a tree. They had > a cougar living in the suburbs of Chicago recently as well. > > I have done some reading about this. It appears these are all juvenile > males. Male cougars are territorial so the young ones must either inherit a > territory or move out and find their own. The young males have been > documented traveling hundreds of miles searching for a territory. It's not > clear why they don't stop at the first non-cougar land they find, but > sometimes they don't. There have been cougars with electronic collars that > have been tracked 500 miles from their place of birth. It is thought that > the cougars we are seeing in Minnesota and Wisconsin are born in the black > hills. They have yet to find a female cougar this far from home. > > Biologists will say that our geography is an attractive cougar area. There > is a very strong deer population, with woods for hiding. The human > population density is higher than cougars are used to, which may be why > these males keep roaming. They like the area but just can't find enough > seclusion to call home. > > Jim & Kay Barnhart > Mazeppa MN > 507-843- > jb...@sleepyeyetel.net > -Original Message- > From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com > [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Linda Lottie > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:36 PM > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland > > This message is from: Linda Lottie > > Hi Everyone > > Remember last spring when I reported my Swedish Gotland (rescued from > Kentucky) was attacked by a "cougar" - at least that is what most thought > after looking at her wounds?? > > Last week in our local paper it was reported that a cougar is alive and well > and living about 45 miles from my farm. A group of fellows treed the animal > but tranqualizing it was unsuccessful. Therefore, no radio collar to track > the cougar. > > The DNR in our area has stayed far away from acknowledging there are cougars > around. This time they could not deny it. > > Hopefully the beautiful fellow stays where he is..someone said their > range > in 100's of miles - that is good:) > > Linda in NW WI > > > > > > Linda Baker Lottie > > Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center > "Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together" >Grantsburg WI > > > > > No love, no friendship > can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it > forever. > > -Francois Muriac > > > www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland
This message is from: "coy...@acrec.com" In recent years, cougars has been positively sighted in western Iowa (Harlan) and in the suburbs of east central Iowa (Cedar Rapids). We have bobcats and the occasional bear for certain here in the hills and forests of northeastern Iowa. Some maintain we have a few cougars and a wolf or two as well. The Iowa DNR is usually skeptical about cougar reports unless there's definitive proof. I am a little too -- a dog, coyote, fox, bobcat, or other four-legged critter can easily be mistaken for a cougar if you only get a quick glimpse of it at dusk or in the headlights. The Harlan cougar was hit and killed by a car, however. The DNR (department of natural resources) had a hard time explaining that one away! --DeeAnna Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland
This message is from: "Jim Barnhart" We've had some cougar sightings over the years here in SE Minnesota. One was photographed about 10 mies from our home as it sat in a tree. They had a cougar living in the suburbs of Chicago recently as well. I have done some reading about this. It appears these are all juvenile males. Male cougars are territorial so the young ones must either inherit a territory or move out and find their own. The young males have been documented traveling hundreds of miles searching for a territory. It's not clear why they don't stop at the first non-cougar land they find, but sometimes they don't. There have been cougars with electronic collars that have been tracked 500 miles from their place of birth. It is thought that the cougars we are seeing in Minnesota and Wisconsin are born in the black hills. They have yet to find a female cougar this far from home. Biologists will say that our geography is an attractive cougar area. There is a very strong deer population, with woods for hiding. The human population density is higher than cougars are used to, which may be why these males keep roaming. They like the area but just can't find enough seclusion to call home. Jim & Kay Barnhart Mazeppa MN 507-843- jb...@sleepyeyetel.net -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Linda Lottie Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:36 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland This message is from: Linda Lottie Hi Everyone Remember last spring when I reported my Swedish Gotland (rescued from Kentucky) was attacked by a "cougar" - at least that is what most thought after looking at her wounds?? Last week in our local paper it was reported that a cougar is alive and well and living about 45 miles from my farm. A group of fellows treed the animal but tranqualizing it was unsuccessful. Therefore, no radio collar to track the cougar. The DNR in our area has stayed far away from acknowledging there are cougars around. This time they could not deny it. Hopefully the beautiful fellow stays where he is..someone said their range in 100's of miles - that is good:) Linda in NW WI Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center "Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together" Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Cougar - northwest WI
This message is from: Susan Cargill Linda Lotti - I've been watching the cougar news with interest. Our neighbor and her mother used to walk the Tuscobia Trail which separates our farm into two pieces. They reported seeing a large tail several times as they were walking - the neighborhood was pretty sure it was a cougar. They quit walking. We love living in the northwoods but it does come with some excitement at times. I didn't know that your Gotland had been attacked. We live above 45-50 miles south of Linda where the eagles soar, the wolves roam and the bears are everywhere and coming out of hibernation. Its my belief that each person knows their own capacity whether its importing new fjords or determining when to breed or not breed. In general I think the majority of fjord owners do an excellent job of determining what is best for them and their fjords. I have two mares coming in on the lift from Germany. And, one of them is pregnant carrying a foal by Dexter. We have the time, space and capacity to keep all of our fjords well fed, visited by the vet and farrier regularly and they are all well loved. Susan Cargill Longtheway Farm Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
update on cougar attack on my Swedish Gotland
This message is from: Linda Lottie Hi Everyone Remember last spring when I reported my Swedish Gotland (rescued from Kentucky) was attacked by a "cougar" - at least that is what most thought after looking at her wounds?? Last week in our local paper it was reported that a cougar is alive and well and living about 45 miles from my farm. A group of fellows treed the animal but tranqualizing it was unsuccessful. Therefore, no radio collar to track the cougar. The DNR in our area has stayed far away from acknowledging there are cougars around. This time they could not deny it. Hopefully the beautiful fellow stays where he is..someone said their range in 100's of miles - that is good:) Linda in NW WI Linda Baker Lottie Wild Wind Farm Equestrian Center "Where Hearts and Hooves Come Together" Grantsburg WI No love, no friendship can cross the path of our destiny without leaving some mark on it forever. -Francois Muriac www.heartsandhoovesforever.blogspot.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
re: Url for the mule/cougar page?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jean & Tamara! Sher in CO
Re: Url for the mule/cougar page?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sher - You can also access the pics at www.snopes.com . Type in "mule and mountain lion" in the search and it will come up. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Tuesday, December 7, 2004, at 07:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, folks - I'm trying to go back to the digest that first posted the url to the mule/cougar page. Having a bit of trouble figuring out how to look at former digests from the list. Don't know what digest # that url appeared in. Any tips, please? Sher in CO
Url for the mule/cougar page?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, folks - I'm trying to go back to the digest that first posted the url to the mule/cougar page. Having a bit of trouble figuring out how to look at former digests from the list. Don't know what digest # that url appeared in. Any tips, please? Sher in CO
Re: cougar
This message is from: Jessica Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Great Pyrenese are used for livestock guarding jgayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:This message is from: "jgayle" Thanks to all who gave me ideas about cougar. I now lock my Corgis in for the night, carry my Smith and Wesson, have a radio in the barn, unfortunately Gunnar is out in the field all night while my big Charlie has the barn. Gunnar does not do barns well. I also have our newspaper interested in the Wild Life's remark that you have to lose something before they take action. This will at least warn my neighborhood of the presence. I am also careful to keep all garbage, chicken food etc put away. I have lost one chicken so far, an old lady who would not move fast enough. Still not sure what the name is of livestock guarding dogs??? What breed? Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946-49 $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
cougar
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to all who gave me ideas about cougar. I now lock my Corgis in for the night, carry my Smith and Wesson, have a radio in the barn, unfortunately Gunnar is out in the field all night while my big Charlie has the barn. Gunnar does not do barns well. I also have our newspaper interested in the Wild Life's remark that you have to lose something before they take action. This will at least warn my neighborhood of the presence. I am also careful to keep all garbage, chicken food etc put away. I have lost one chicken so far, an old lady who would not move fast enough. Still not sure what the name is of livestock guarding dogs??? What breed? Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946-49 $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: cougar
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I also forgotthe Unrau's have lost foals to cougars from their herd that runs out. LIvestock guarding dogs are not a threat to people, as far as I know. Big, fuzzy.and friendlyexcept not to predators. > >If cougars are a normal part of the wild life, I suggest adding a pair of livestock guarding dogs. > >Janet
Re: cougar
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Jean and list, I have come across a cougar twice, each time in the very early morning hours during cow calving season. Each time he saw me he took off, thank goodness, but fired a shot anyway. On a good horse with a dog. Can your animals take shelter and do you have some kind of noisy varmint gun? So much for the Animal Control and Wildlife folks. They never want to take action until after some tragedy has occurred. Note the time of day the siting occurred/place and if you are rural enough let off a few shots in the air as go some where else deterrent. (from a safe distance!) This is scary. Hope N IL
cougar
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, My grandpa was an outfitter ranch hand years ago in Estes Park Co. Grandma wrote story after story about cougars trying to get into the horse barn, seems that horses are high on their list of preferred prey. Yearlings and foals are the preferred target. I don't mean to alarm you but I'd surely take precautions. If cougars are a normal part of the wild life, I suggest adding a pair of livestock guarding dogs. Janet
Re: Cougar
This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jgayle wrote: > This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We finally heard the sound of real rain yesterday and last night. > > My gardener saw a big cougar about 100 feet from my barn on Friday. Jean > Walters Gayle > > Montesano, WA 98563 Your rain hit us last night with maybe more on the way - this is our driest stretch since they began keeping records. We often have cougars come in, usually they are youngsters, either just separated or moving through - this time of year it is because of the water around the place - the older ones are usually more wary and do not let you see them. . I do not know of a reliable way to keep them away - activity -noise - lights are all said to help. Keep the little critters in at night. When ours are around, the smaller predators ( foxes, coyotes, dogs and feral cats) disappear. They have not attacked the horses but will spook them so they run through fences. On another note. First place in both the pleasure driving class and the cones course at the Eastern Idaho State Fair on saturday were won by a Fjord ( and owner) from Jackson Hole. I did not remember their names well enough to attempt here. My fjord picked the pleasure class to have a blonde moment and decided to race the arab across the arena. First time she has ever broken out of the trot in harness. Not a true runaway since I got her shut down fairly fast but a short thrilling ride in an old black buggy. I have videos of the event and she does look sharp, and the judges were watching, lost hat and whip in the dash- but not quite the appropriate gait for the class. Even so-we didn't come in last and placed in the cones right after with a clean run. I deliberately took her slow so she wouldn't get the idea that the fair was for racing. The competition was held immediately adjacent to the carnival rides and the race track where they were running Indian relay races while we were showing. The Fjords were not at all upset about the rides or the racing but mine startled at the loudspeaker several times and in watching the videos, the announcer and the loudspeaker are what she decided to spook at. ( or just took advantage of the situation) The people from Jackson who won both cones and driving class had a beautifully behaved gelding on a wooden road cart. Nothing fancy but nice and fit the horse. Although getting a little hair and sporting the Fjord well filled look he was well trimmed and had obviously been driven a lot. The lady driving looked neat and quite nice in hat, gloves, white shirt and slacks. I think she said she had never competed in pleasure driving before so a thumbs up. Having two fjords there was a first and generated a lot of questions and interest, especially when one of them won both classes. Next year, we are trying to get a whole afternoon or morning and in a better place ( better surface and away from the carnival) with additional classes -single,double, two and four wheeled and various cones-possibly an obstacle course. I will keep the list posted if it happens, would be relatively easy for Wyoming, Idaho and northern Utah drivers.There will be a cones clinic and playday on October 25th in Pocatello, Idaho. Let me know if anyone is interested. Boarding facilities for overnight could probably be arranged. Kathy in Southern Idaho
Re: Cougar
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Ruthie I have not had much sleep as I awaken at any noise from my transmitter. Will do the radio and light. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946-49 $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Cougar
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A cougar killed a Fjord in Northern CA...so I am told.At 06:03 PM 9/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >We finally heard the sound of real rain yesterday and last night. Have broken >all records for dry weather. Our poor Evergreens. A neighbor took down some >trees next door with a huge machine and when he took up the stumps he said the >dirt was dry down eight to ten feet. > >My gardener saw a big cougar about 100 feet from my barn on Friday. My ducks >and cat had been acting differently for about two weeks. I am not so worried >about my big horse as I am about Gunnar, the corgis and the cat. Small snacks >for a cougar, well maybe not Gunnar.. Has anyone had experience with these >young or maybe older cougars who come into inhabited areas? I called the >proper source about a "sighting" but he did not even want to come out. >Children around here. Jean > > > > > > > >Jean Walters Gayle >Aberdeen, WA >Author:The Colonel's Daughter >Occupied Germany 1946-49 >$20 PO Box 104 >Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Cougar
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My gardener saw a big cougar about 100 feet from my barn on Friday. My ducks > and cat had been acting differently for about two weeks. I am not so worried > about my big horse as I am about Gunnar, the corgis and the cat. Small snacks > for a cougar, well maybe not Gunnar.. Has anyone had experience with these > young or maybe older cougars who come into inhabited areas? I called the > proper source about a "sighting" but he did not even want to come out. > Children around here. Jean > THAT IS SCARY JEAN! I recall Mary Thurman (past subscriber) telling me that it is a good idea to keep a radio going in barn and a light on to ward them off. Please do be careful. Ruthie, nw mt
Cougar
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We finally heard the sound of real rain yesterday and last night. Have broken all records for dry weather. Our poor Evergreens. A neighbor took down some trees next door with a huge machine and when he took up the stumps he said the dirt was dry down eight to ten feet. My gardener saw a big cougar about 100 feet from my barn on Friday. My ducks and cat had been acting differently for about two weeks. I am not so worried about my big horse as I am about Gunnar, the corgis and the cat. Small snacks for a cougar, well maybe not Gunnar.. Has anyone had experience with these young or maybe older cougars who come into inhabited areas? I called the proper source about a "sighting" but he did not even want to come out. Children around here. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946-49 $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
