Re: Fjord head on a shoulder?

2013-06-24 Thread Julia Webb
This message is from: Julia Webb 


Both my Fjord and the one I borrowed for a summer liked to do that. My girl is 
an alpha, the other was usually at the bottom of the pack. Neither seemed to 
escalate it, but if it is unsolicited, I usually discourage it. 

Hard tho... They're so stinkin' cute when they do it. :-)

-Julia 

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On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Linda Lottie"  wrote:

> This message is from: Linda Lottie 
> 
> 
> Fjord head on your shoulder?  Did you ask him to put it there?  If so, your 
> choice.  Did he choose to put it there?  I personally would not allow that.  

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Re: Fjord head on a shoulder?

2013-06-24 Thread Rovena Kessinger
This message is from: Rovena Kessinger 


I don't know for sure. I may have reinforced it when asking him to "be still"
and stand by my side.  If his head was above my shoulder at some point, he may
have thought that's what I was going for.  He always over-does everything he
learns.  He doesn't go back one step, he goes back 10, etc.  I just wondered
if that was a known horse or fjord behavior.  He is fine with being touched
all over the nose and lips. 
 
--- On Mon, 6/24/13, Linda Lottie  wrote:


From: Linda Lottie 
Subject: Fjord head on a shoulder?
To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" 
Cc: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" 
Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 12:15 PM


This message is from: Linda Lottie 


Fjord head on your shoulder?  Did you ask him to put it there?  If so, your
choice.  Did he choose to put it there?  I personally would not allow that. 

My comfort level with my personal space is VERY critical with all of my
horses.  And, as I get older I find I'm even more aware of it. 

I just don't like any nonsense or verging on "getting in my way".  With
fjords, appys, a mini and two mini donkeys all know my rules.  They adore me
(I feed them...LOL) and I spend lots of time hanging out with them in their
turnouts w/o halters.  I give good scratches and smooches but I do NOT like
being clunked in the head or body by any of them!!!  And, they know it!!!

Guests are also encouraged to pet my horses on the neckbut of course they
want to touch the face.  Touch my fjord mares mouth?  Might see teeth!  LOL.
She gets no treats by mouth as she becomes pushy and snotty when there are
none.  Live and learn:)))

JMHO

Linda in steamy NW WI



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On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Rovena Kessinger  wrote:

> This message is from: Rovena Kessinger 
>
>
> :)  When I said horses were much smarter than I ever knew, maybe it's
because
> I started with a fjord and a mule.
> 
> Yes I'm sure all trainers aren't bad.  But there are just so many horror
> stories, it seems like a big risk.
> 
> When a horse puts his head on top of you, like rests it on your shoulder,
is
> that a friendly gesture or an attempt to dominate?  Mine does that a lot. 
A
> fjord head on your shoulder is kind of noticable, but it doesn't
> escalate beyond that.  He has tried to control me in the past, but he has
> gotten 99% better with that, but I didn't know if that was a little
residual
> bit of that, or just trying to be friendly.
>
> --- On Mon, 6/24/13, Logans - Willows Edge Farm LLC

> wrote:
>
>
> From: Logans - Willows Edge Farm LLC 
> Subject: RE: Personalities & Intelligence
> To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" 
> Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 9:18 AM
>
>
> This message is from: Logans - Willows Edge Farm LLC
> 
>
>
> In my years of working with the Fjords, I've found them to be ridiculously
> smart. Each horse has it's own personality which changes how they will
learn,
> but have not found a dumb one yet. :)
>
> In our training program, we start babies at Day 1! They are handled and
> handled and handled. We have 4 foals this year (including a tall, white
stud
> colt if anyone's interested...) that are now between 3-7 weeks. They lead,
> they walk by your side (mostly) and stop when asked. They hold their feet
> nicely for the farrier - which they've all seen now - and have had the
> clippers run over them. They will stand cautiously on a brown tarp.
>
> As for our adults, we're working them building muscle as well as dressage.
I
> have 2 that we are planning on taking to the Libby evaluations and even
> though
> they've only begun riding training here in the last few weeks, they have
> already gained their w/t/c, collection and leads. We do "muscle building
> work"
> and then we do "training", and yes, I do believe that those can be
separated.
> In training, they are learning something new every other day (in addition
to
> their former work) and when they get it correct, their lesson is done. Then
> we
> give them a day to think about it. We've had ZERO issues and so far, only
> forward moving with 3 of our mares that we're training for this season.
>
> For those who have said they don't want to send their horses out, I agree
to
> a
> point. There are many fabulous Fjord trainers who will take care of your
baby
> just like you would - and give them some smarts to take home for you as
well.
>
> Take your time, be patient and love them. They will reward you greatly.
>
> Corinne Logan
> Willows Edge Farm, LLC
> Boise, Idaho
> 208-629-1438 / 425-770-0243
> www.willowsedgefarm.com
> https://www.facebook.com/WillowsEdgeFarmIdaho
>
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Fjord head on a shoulder?

2013-06-24 Thread Linda Lottie
This message is from: Linda Lottie 


Fjord head on your shoulder?  Did you ask him to put it there?  If so, your 
choice.  Did he choose to put it there?  I personally would not allow that.  

My comfort level with my personal space is VERY critical with all of my horses. 
 And, as I get older I find I'm even more aware of it.  

I just don't like any nonsense or verging on "getting in my way".  With fjords, 
appys, a mini and two mini donkeys all know my rules.  They adore me (I feed 
them...LOL) and I spend lots of time hanging out with them in their turnouts 
w/o halters.  I give good scratches and smooches but I do NOT like being 
clunked in the head or body by any of them!!!  And, they know it!!!

Guests are also encouraged to pet my horses on the neckbut of course they 
want to touch the face.  Touch my fjord mares mouth?  Might see teeth!  LOL. 
She gets no treats by mouth as she becomes pushy and snotty when there are 
none.  Live and learn:)))

JMHO

Linda in steamy NW WI



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On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Rovena Kessinger  wrote:

> This message is from: Rovena Kessinger 
> 
> 
> :)  When I said horses were much smarter than I ever knew, maybe it's because
> I started with a fjord and a mule. 
>  
> Yes I'm sure all trainers aren't bad.  But there are just so many horror
> stories, it seems like a big risk.
>  
> When a horse puts his head on top of you, like rests it on your shoulder, is
> that a friendly gesture or an attempt to dominate?  Mine does that a lot.  A
> fjord head on your shoulder is kind of noticable, but it doesn't
> escalate beyond that.  He has tried to control me in the past, but he has
> gotten 99% better with that, but I didn't know if that was a little residual
> bit of that, or just trying to be friendly.
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/24/13, Logans - Willows Edge Farm LLC 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Logans - Willows Edge Farm LLC 
> Subject: RE: Personalities & Intelligence
> To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" 
> Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 9:18 AM
> 
> 
> This message is from: Logans - Willows Edge Farm LLC
> 
> 
> 
> In my years of working with the Fjords, I've found them to be ridiculously
> smart. Each horse has it's own personality which changes how they will learn,
> but have not found a dumb one yet. :)
> 
> In our training program, we start babies at Day 1! They are handled and
> handled and handled. We have 4 foals this year (including a tall, white stud
> colt if anyone's interested...) that are now between 3-7 weeks. They lead,
> they walk by your side (mostly) and stop when asked. They hold their feet
> nicely for the farrier - which they've all seen now - and have had the
> clippers run over them. They will stand cautiously on a brown tarp.
> 
> As for our adults, we're working them building muscle as well as dressage. I
> have 2 that we are planning on taking to the Libby evaluations and even
> though
> they've only begun riding training here in the last few weeks, they have
> already gained their w/t/c, collection and leads. We do "muscle building
> work"
> and then we do "training", and yes, I do believe that those can be separated.
> In training, they are learning something new every other day (in addition to
> their former work) and when they get it correct, their lesson is done. Then
> we
> give them a day to think about it. We've had ZERO issues and so far, only
> forward moving with 3 of our mares that we're training for this season.
> 
> For those who have said they don't want to send their horses out, I agree to
> a
> point. There are many fabulous Fjord trainers who will take care of your baby
> just like you would - and give them some smarts to take home for you as well.
> 
> Take your time, be patient and love them. They will reward you greatly.
> 
> Corinne Logan
> Willows Edge Farm, LLC
> Boise, Idaho
> 208-629-1438 / 425-770-0243
> www.willowsedgefarm.com
> https://www.facebook.com/WillowsEdgeFarmIdaho
> 
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