This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is original statements form Pat Holland.

The QH industry went through all of this in the 70's -  which it was a time
I was deeply involved. The bulldog vrs the TB type. Oh my,.. the shows were
a "fun" place to be at. At one time the halter classes looked like a
stairwell - 1st place the tallest and most refined - on down.  One of the
reason the peanut-roller effect came into being was that as the horses grew
longer and taller they were also traveling longer and more fluid - people
began "cranking" them in and creating the artificial movement the industry is
trying to get out of now.  And might I add - becoming successful at.

This is From Lynda Welch.

 I believe this to be a wrong move and
hazardous to the longevity of the breed.  It does not matter if people are
more
into riding in the modern day, or whatever discipline is the current trend!
The
point of the matter is the Norwegian Fjord has always been a versatile horse
that is a wonderful family companion.  Some Norwegian Fjords are exceptional,
and show highly in specific disciplines and this is truly wonderful, whereas
other Norwegian Fjords are outstanding family horses.  Through the years, they
have been used for a variety of purposes and do each of them well WITHOUT us
messing around with their body type.

What I simply cannot understand is if people really want a refined horse, why
on earth do they not go with a breed that already has this quality?


Now my food for thought. I also was involved in the QH world and still have
ties their ( I was born a QH girl, I left the QH world because of this messing
with what worked and other stuff along with many others I know ).

My experience tells me that the QH I use to ride are now starting to reemerge
after 30 ish years of messing with type. Along with the finer refined QH's
came built in health issues remember the surgance of navicular?? Amongst other
leg problems that rendered many horses burnt out at ages when they should be
starting to thrive. Their are still lines that you just don't buy knowing that
you will get leg problems along with the price. Imagine a big powerful body on
pretty little feet and thin legs, the mechanics of this combination just
doesn't work. I wonder the pounds per strike those feet are absorbing at the
walk, trot, and canter?

Maybe we are remembering the negative instead of the other things that came
from this type changing. Crossing the QH with the TH came the Appendix QH, now
the Foundation QH ( which is back to the original that worked ). Could this be
why the Qh registry is so big, they have off shoots of the original and than
back to the original?? Looks to me that the QH has gone full circle, is this
what the Fjord folks want to do go 30 ish years trying to make a great thing
better and than end up back where started? That's a lot of effort.

 I will raise and show what I like (within the written standards) if the judge
or others don't like what I have to offer so be it. I have to please myself
first and I know that their will be people that will appreciate what I have to
offer. An associate of mine kept breeding, raising,and training the now called
Foundation stock QH and now folks are coming back. Yes it's been long and hard
road but her diligence and dedication to herself is paying off once again. A
quality breeding program with people of high standards and integrity is always
in demand and hard to find, once found their are referrals and return
customers.

So as sad as it would be to see the Fjord go the way of the QH ( which Thank
God is starting to make a come back)  their may be some good that comes from
it, but  at what cost ? I just hope that those that choose to go that route
have some education in breeding so that the FH don't end up heavy in the feed
lots being culled out.

Roberta

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