Re: Fjords preferring Fjords
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:03 AM 6/30/98 -0800, you wrote: >This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Jean in Hot and muggy Fairbanks, Alaska (85 degrees and 93% humidity: don't >laugh, those of you in 100 degrees, it still feels hot to me!) > Hey you can have that part of Alaska then. When I was in Port Clarence, AK we never got above 55 F. We didn't get as cold as you do either. it only got down to about -40 F or so. We were on the coast though so that is why. The coast of the Berring Strait that is. == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjords preferring Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian, We also have an 8 y.o. gelding who is dominant to other mares/geldings. He is the one who gets to decide which wafer of hay he wants even if someone else was eating it first. The only ones he does not dominate are his dam, an 18 year old brood mare, and our stallion Ring, who he surprisingly gets along with pretty well. Interestingly, we had this fellow tied to our hitching posts (2 telephone poles in the ground with full size 2x8's bolted across horizontally) this weekend for a little grooming, when a certain stallion you know well, showed up in the small yard adjacent (separated also by a wooden 3 rail fence, and a 4 ft stock fence topped with one HOT electric wire). In spite of all this separation, the stallion and the gelding were able to get nose-to-nose over the top rail of the hitching post, and all fences and get into a little "guy thing". The gelding was more than a little surprised when the stallion basically grabbed his whole muzzle in his mouth, apparently only letting go because the electric fence made it uncomforatble to hold on for too long. Perhaps this may change the gelding's attitude toward how tough he is. However, some guys never learn. --- William M. Coli Extension Educator/ Statewide IPM Coordinator Dept. of Entomology Agricultural Engineering Bldg. UMass Amherst MA 01003 Phone: 413-545-1051 Fax: 413-545-5858 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Always drink upstream from the herd". From: A Cowboy's Guide to Life, by T.B. Bender
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remarked to Pedfjords the other day that it was hot here too. Today it was also hot. But somewhat like the Alaskans, hot turned out to be 74 degrees!!! I couldn't believe it. It seemed almost like 90 degrees. We are in N. Minnesota. I think I'll be uncomfortable in Blue Earth. A fjord stallion I know, when at the MN horse expo, will not look twice at any other type of mare, but when a fjord mare goes by, he calls out to her! He must know the NFHR rules against out-crossing with other horses! ;-) Suzan
Re: Fjords preferring Fjords
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another problem is that Kitty prefers Sybren to Janosch. So she (the > highest) lets Sybren (the lowest) eat near her, This also happens in my herd. Nansy (29-year-old mare, ranking Fjord) will let Sleepy (12-y.o. Fjord gelding, and lowest) come in and eat from her pile of hay, but will chase away Rom (15-y.o. Fjord gelding---mid-rank). Once the food is gone, Rom becomes her "consort" again, and Sleepy becomes "odd man out". (Topmost rank in my "herd" goes to Shadow, the 11.2hh pinto donkey---nobody messes with her! Interestingly, Rom is least intimidated by her; he was the only one who attempted to challenge her for herd leadership when he arrived.) > Another strange thing is that Kitty and Janosch have exactly the > same colors, he looks like her miniature version, so why does she > prefer Sybren??? Or has height importance as well as color? Or are > Fjords the only ones who prefer their own breed or horses looking like > Fjords? Somewhere I read a study about horses' color preferences. Horses generally don't "know" what color they are, but are most likely to buddy up with other horses that "look like" their mothers did! Fjords, of course, "all look alike", and don't look much like any other breed, so just about any Fjord will look more like "mom" than any non-Fjord. It'll be very interesting to see what the dynamics are after you've separated them for a while, and introduced the new Fjord! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
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This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Then when we were riding in the outdoor >ring she suddenly became very excited as two horses came down the road, >back from a trailride. she winnied like she'd seen a long lost friend: It >was a fjord mare that she'd never ever met before, but she recognizeed her >as one of her own! This is so touching!!! >Jean in Hot and muggy Fairbanks, Alaska (85 degrees and 93% humidity: don't >laugh, those of you in 100 degrees, it still feels hot to me!) those in 100% humidity (Belgium in streaming rain - again!!!) don't laugh either!!!
Re: Fjords preferring Fjords
This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha Jo Hannah wrote: >This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) wrote: >> >> A large 8-y-o Fjord gelding who was top dog of the 20 Fjords we had >> at the time [...] was loaned to a nearby friend who had two horses. >> There, our gelding was low man on the totem pole. > >Don't know how relevant it is, but in our "herd", rank is perfectly >correlated with how long the animals have been on our property. The >new horse seems to automatically go to the bottom of the heap! here too. Our little Janosch (the Shetland pony) is the boss over Sybren (the Fjord), but sometimes Janosch has to stress his dominance though by making Sybren kneel down (he bites in his legs and neck until Sybren goes on his knees). It's a very strange sight, they are of the same age but Sybren is already the double in height of Janosch... But Kitty (the Haflinger), who arrived after Janosch, is the dominant horse of the three. Maybe because Janosch was only 8 months old when she arrived and she was almost 4 years old... Another problem is that Kitty prefers Sybren to Janosch. So she (the highest) lets Sybren (the lowest) eat near her, while she chases Janosch. This enrages Janosch so!!! (and he's very funny when he's angry!). Now I wonder how every thing will proceed, as "the boys" will spend the summer with my parents and probably Flor (adult gelding) will join us here meanwhile and will take the second place, I guess. What will the places of Sybren and Janosch be when they return? And will Sybren, who is madly in love with Kitty now, prefer Flor-his-fellow-Fjord in the future? Another strange thing is that Kitty and Janosch have exactly the same colors, he looks like her miniature version, so why does she prefer Sybren??? Or has height importance as well as color? Or are Fjords the only ones who prefer their own breed or horses looking like Fjords? Saskia
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Several years ago I had my mare Stella at a TTeam and Centered Riding Clinic held at a boarding stable. We had been there a couple days and Stella much preferred to stand in the trailer with her head out the feed door to watch the goings on rather than tied to it, as she felt more secure around all those big brown horses! Then when we were riding in the outdoor ring she suddenly became very excited as two horses came down the road, back from a trailride. she winnied like she'd seen a long lost friend: It was a fjord mare that she'd never ever met before, but she recognizeed her as one of her own! Jean in Hot and muggy Fairbanks, Alaska (85 degrees and 93% humidity: don't laugh, those of you in 100 degrees, it still feels hot to me!) At 12:54 AM 6/30/98 EDT, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) > >In response to Anneli's question about Fjords preferring each other's >company when in with horses of other breeds, I have seen this also. ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjords preferring Fjords
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) wrote: > > A large 8-y-o Fjord gelding who was top dog of the 20 Fjords we had > at the time [...] was loaned to a nearby friend who had two horses. > There, our gelding was low man on the totem pole. Don't know how relevant it is, but in our "herd", rank is perfectly correlated with how long the animals have been on our property. The new horse seems to automatically go to the bottom of the heap! I've also noticed that Fjords tend to have very subtle body language amongst themselves. When put in with breeds that are very "expressive", such as your friend's TB and Arab, Fjords "come across" as being reserved and shy. This could also account for your gelding ending up at the bottom of that herd. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
Fjords preferring Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) In response to Anneli's question about Fjords preferring each other's company when in with horses of other breeds, I have seen this also. In two instances when one Fjord was in a herd of horses of other breeds, and another Fjord was introduced (they had never seen each other before), the Fjords almost immediately became fast friends and basically ignored the other horses. Speaking of Fjords with other horses, has anyone else seen what I am about to relate, or was it perhaps just an isolated incident? A large 8-y-o Fjord gelding who was top dog of the 20 Fjords we had at the time (excluding stallions - he wasn't with them) was loaned to a nearby friend who had two horses. There, our gelding was low man on the totem pole. The friends' Thoroughbred gelding was head honcho, followed by their small Arabian mare, and then the Fjord. The Thoroughbred being more dominant was not too much of a surprise; He was larger even if he was pretty laid back (calm). The Arabian mare was not especially bossy either, and she was smaller, so that was a little unexpected. I realize of course that many things are involved there - personalities, past experience, age, etc., so maybe that's just the way it was going to happen in this case. But it did get me wondering? Anyone else seen something similar? Brian Jacobsen Salisbury, North Carolina _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
