RE: Re: Frighten Fjord

2000-04-01 Thread Karen McCarthy

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From: Mary Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Aaron is at the trainers and he trembles with fear, he is ground >driving 
and pulling a 4ftx4ft. harrow, and mounts and walks and >stops also But he 
trembles as if fearful. He's willing just seems >scared.

Sheila W.


This is very sad.  No matter what breed of horse it is, training should not 
continue until confidence is there.  A wreck is waiting to happen, and 
either the horse or handler will be hurt.  Stop now and go back to the 
basics of working this horse on the ground. Take him home and get his trust 
before you do anything else.  A trainer that would continue with fear this 
strong is not a good trainer, please consider the good of the horse first.

Mary


Mary, I really agree with you here.Well said.
Sheila, sometimes it is very hard to admit that things are headed on the 
wrong course,especially if you are in-experienced, but, its really time to 
stop and re-evaluate your situation NOW. Those of us with allot of driving 
experience under our belts, (and there are quite a few on this list ), would 
agree with Mary's advice.
We're all here on this List to encourage and support one another - and issue 
words of warning as well.


Take care,
Karen
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV
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RE: Re: Re: Frighten Fjord

2000-03-29 Thread Mary Wood
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I can't necessarily agree that the trainer is no good just because the horse
is afraid.  I don't believe this positivily means the horse lacks confidence
either.  Perhaps this is just new to the horse and he has to learn to accept
it

I guess we just believe in different ways of doing things with horses.  When
my horses are scared of something new we are doing, I don't quit, I simply
take more time.  My feeling is that if a horse is terrified of being
harnassed, them maybe we should get them over that before we put a disc
harrow behind him.  You are right that it depends on how long the horse is
afraid, it is normal to have some fear,  but a horse that is trembling
certainly is not very confident in his situation or his handlers.  I think
the old cowboy way of breaking a horse worked just fine, it is just not what
I am comfortable with, as I think there are better ways, and alot less
horses and riders are injured by taking more time.

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Re: Re: Frighten Fjord

2000-03-29 Thread Lynn Mohr
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I can't necessarily agree that the trainer is no good just because the horse
is afraid.  I don't believe this positivily means the horse lacks confidence
either.  Perhaps this is just new to the horse and he has to learn to accept
it.  If it continues for long and the horse continues to be afraid than
maybe something else needs to be done.  I am currently getting apair of full
brothers broken to harness.  The 4 yr old is more sensitive and reacts to
different sounds and sensations much more than his 3 yr old brother.  Once
he accepts new things he is ok, but he is hesitant to try new things.  If I
only do things he is comfortable with he will never be anything other than
what he is today.  He has trembled at harnessing but got over it in no time.
He pulls a wagon or cart with little trouble but is scared to death at the
sound of a sliding stone boat.  If I want him on the boat he will have to
learn to accept the strange, to him, not his brother, noise.  They have to
learn to work through their fears with the handlers assurances and help.
Everything is new at first and each animal accepts them differently but to
be of any value they must learn to do what we want them to do when we want
them to do it.  If everytime a horse is fearful we quit, they soon learn
they never have to do anything they don't want to, to me this is a greater
chance of a problem or accident than working them through their fears.



RE: Re: Frighten Fjord

2000-03-29 Thread Mary Wood
This message is from: Mary Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>>Aaron is at the trainers and he trembles with fear, he is ground driving
>and pulling a 4ftx4ft. harrow, and mounts and walks and stops also But
>he trembles as if fearful. He's willing just seems scared.


This is very sad.  No matter what breed of horse it is, training should not
continue until confidence is there.  A wreck is waiting to happen, and
either the horse or handler will be hurt.  Stop now and go back to the
basics of working this horse on the ground. Take him home and get his trust
before you do anything else.  A trainer that would continue with fear this
strong is not a good trainer, please consider the good of the horse first. 
Mary

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Re: Frighten Fjord

2000-03-29 Thread Meredith Sessoms
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>This message is from: "Wertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi meredith, I read your piece about Fjords temperment. However my Fjord
>Aaron is at the trainers and he trembles with fear, he is ground driving
>and pulling a 4ftx4ft. harrow, and mounts and walks and stops also But
>he trembles as if fearful. He's willing just seems scared. It hurts my
>heart to see him tremble. He's been timid since birth and was attached
>by a stallion as a yearly that's all I know from his owner.


That is so sad.  I have never heard of a Fjord who trembles with fear with
normal handling.  Of course, when I wrote about Fjords being so confident, I
was speaking about my experience with my two ladies, and generalities based
on what I have read and heard.  I hope your fellow's fearful behavior gets
better with time and that he gains confidence in himself and in those around
him.

>>><<<   Meredith Sessoms
>>><<<   Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA
>>><<<   Dorina & NFR Aagot



Frighten Fjord

2000-03-28 Thread Wertin
This message is from: "Wertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi meredith, I read your piece about Fjords temperment. However my Fjord
Aaron is at the trainers and he trembles with fear, he is ground driving
and pulling a 4ftx4ft. harrow, and mounts and walks and stops also But
he trembles as if fearful. He's willing just seems scared. It hurts my
heart to see him tremble. He's been timid since birth and was attached
by a stallion as a yearly that's all I know from his owner.
Thanks
Sheila @[EMAIL PROTECTED]