Re: High glucose level in mare

2004-09-28 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Krist Martinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone had a horse with a high glucose level and any experience with a
 horse that insulin resistance, especially in terms of having a foal?  This
 Fjord mare has just had a extremely thorough physical presale exam.
 Everything checked out okay except the glucose which came in at 120.  The
 potential buyer felt that this might interfere with her being able to foal.
 Mare is 18 years old and is somewhat overweight which may be a factor.  She
 did have a foal three years ago.Several articles in Horse Journal suggest
 that giving 3 teaspoons of magnesium may help.  Any input on this? Thanks

 Krist in Northwest Washington State

Vets and horsemen are becoming better educated about insulin
resistance, metabolic syndrome, etc---but things are still in the
experimental stage.  When our vet was out to do dental work last week,
she looked at all 3 of my critters (2 Fjord geldings and a pinto
jenny), and chanted more work, less food---and get some magnesium
into them.  So, I did some research---it's probably not that simple.
For instance, chromium is also important, as well as other supporting
nutrition.  Check out articles on www.foxdenequine.com and
www.safergrass.org .  The rainy parts of the Pacific Northwest have a
problem with soils being deficient in minerals (including magnesium)
and the grass (hence hay) being high in sugar.  That's a bad
combination for Fjords, who are the poster children for insulin
resistance---breeds that evolved to survive on limited food, by
storing up all spare calories for later.

My old Nansy mare was sold to me at age 17, in part because she was a
poor breeder (only one foal in many years of trying), and always
overweight.  I tried dieting her, with variable success; Thyro-L (she
tested low on thyroid, sometimes) helped for a while; eventually, she
was diagnosed with Cushings (flunked the dex-supression test).  Now,
she would probably be diagnosed as insulin resistant, and managed
differently.  No, I never tried to breed her.

The potential buyer you mentioned is probably justified in backing
away from a pudgy late-teenage mare that might be insulin resistant.
She could probably be made ridable, but I doubt that the research
(mostly anecdotal at this point) is far enough along to know if such a
mare would become breedable, when supplemented correctly.

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Re: High glucose level in mare

2004-09-27 Thread jgayle

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Krist, one thing to check is that Fjords have different thyroid, etc than 
most horses.  Perhaps sugar is one?Jean Gayle






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High glucose level in mare

2004-09-27 Thread Krist Martinsen
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Dear Listers,

Has anyone had a horse with a high glucose level and any experience with a
horse that insulin resistance, especially in terms of having a foal?  This
Fjord mare has just had a extremely thorough physical presale exam.
Everything checked out okay except the glucose which came in at 120.  The
potential buyer felt that this might interfere with her being able to foal.
Mare is 18 years old and is somewhat overweight which may be a factor.  She
did have a foal three years ago.Several articles in Horse Journal suggest
that giving 3 teaspoons of magnesium may help.  Any input on this? Thanks

Krist in Northwest Washington State