Re: lice
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, I have found Melaleuca Oil (Tea Tree Oil) is great for ridding everywhere of lice and it's environmentally safe and nontoxic. I also use it on ear mites in dogs and cats -- works better than the Vet stuff. Robyn in MD
Re: lice
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, Odin did have lice. I have been putting powder on his back every few days, though think I may have to go to something more long acting as my time is limited right now. Thanks for the reminder about the sleeping places! Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lice
This message is from: Stephen Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just re-reading old posts and wondered if Oden ended up being diagnosed with lice? I have used Diatomaceous Earth successfully internally (not daily, just when needed) and externally, as well as a topical pour on treatment down their spine made of Apple cider vinegar, garlic infused oil with tea tree, lavender, eucalyptus, and citronella eo's. Apple cider vinegar is soothing applied to itchy spots. It is important to treat the areas they sleep also (almost impossible sometimes if they are like my animals who sleep everywhere). If it is ringworm, simple toothpaste or tea tree oil applied to the spot will clear ringworm. Also, lice are species specific. If chickens have lice, then the cows will not have them and visa versa - there isn't only one type of lice (I did think that:). When my cows have them, the horse never has them etc. Regards Heather _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: :) :) :) ---------lice
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa I have had chickens for twenty some odd years and not knowing about mites suddenly had a swarm of them on me and the chickens. They seem to be drawn to heat. A quick shower takes care of the situation and washing the exposed clothes. There is now a dusting party and clorox spray about every three or four months but now no signs. No new chickens either. Never have had a problem with the horses. The chickens are in the stalls etc. You can see the mites, they are like gross little motorcycles moving at great speed and they have huge mouths judged by the pain of their bites and the blood mark that is left. We used to bathe the horses in ddt if I thought there was a louse anywhere. Never happened. This was the Vets prescription. Of course ddt is no longer with us. Good luck. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
:) :) :) ---------lice
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/25/02 10:37:53 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gail, I have some experience with lice, unfortunately. We have one mare who seems to get them every once in a while - usually late winter/early spring. It definitely sounds like lice might be Odin's problem. I agree. We had chickens in Ca. who roosted over my mini horse's pen, and he got a severe case of lice in the winter. He got them around his hocks and under his thick long mane. He started stomping and being irritated with something, thats how we discovered the nits. My hairy Fjords when it was still hot there also suffered from lice, again in the late fall / winter. We used Zimectrin wormer and Sevin dust ( found in Nurserys ) for external and internal control. Took care of it till the next season. My vet told us it was the chickens, but we never found any signs on them. Lisa
Re: Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am looking for confirmation of my medical opinion I think Odin has lice I figure the Tuttle's Brute Insecticide (long acting, with the highest percentage of active ingredient) or the Repel 35 Bio Groom (slightly less of the active ingredient). Gail, I have some experience with lice, unfortunately. We have one mare who seems to get them every once in a while - usually late winter/early spring. It definitely sounds like lice might be Odin's problem. I have successfully treated them with Bio Groom's Repel 35 spray on - used after bathing the horse with Bio Groom Shampoo. Bio Groom makes two horse shampoos - one for lice and one 'regular' shampoo. My feed store didn't carry the one for lice, but ordered it for me from their supplier, since they already carried other Bio Groom products. The Repel 35 works well to get the 'rest of the critters' as they hatch. With a long coat on the horse I brush the hair backwards, spray a little on(or spray it on a cloth and wipe it on), then move on to the next spot. If the idea of a spray being inhaled bothers you, just direct the spray onto a towel or small rag, rub it on the horse until the hair/skin is damp, and voila - you're done. Just like a wipe on. Good luck. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
White horses, Lice
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a couple suggestions/ideas. Could the lice actually be rain rot? I've used Desiden Ointment on our horses for that after cleaning well with a tea tree oil scrub. On the white horse question I have a friend with a leopard appaloosa who sunburns horribly including his eyelids. All his white areas have pink skin under them. He has to be kept in all day and let out only at night. Told her she didn't want one. I've had numerous apps in the barn over the years and I think they should all be born with tubes of eye antibiotic. They all had bad inflammation in their eyes over and over. Robyn in MD 3 and a half inches of snow Sat. Nina and I had a great time in it.
Re: Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ivermectin can kill sucking lice I think..When did you last worm with Ivermectin? Within the last few weeks. I saw something on one website on Ivermectin killing lice, but not on any others. I wondered if they were correct. If he has lice, it seems more likely to me that it is the biting type...though I have to say, I do feel like his general hair coat is not as good looking as it should be...like maybe he is not as healthy as he should be. My understanding is that lice inhabit the mane area more, but I don't really know. Have you looked in his mane? Yes...no sign of them...but I have yet to get out my nit/louse comb. I spent a month in the seventies wielding my trusty nit comb on my daughter and son. Actually managed to stop a louse infestation without using ANY insecticides. (The school wanted me to use Lindane on my childrenI was not pleased.) I would make them strip to their underwear and sit out in the sun while I combed, then shower afterwards and put their clothing out in the sun (we had no dryer or really hot water to sterilize the clothing). Our neighbors finally gave their kids a buzz cut after months of trying Lindane shampoos...so...if I put my mind to it I could probably find lice if they are there...it is just that all that Fjord fur is daunting to look thru. Allergies have been suggested. It does not sound like the right location for mange symptoms. Will let you all know if/when I figure it out. ONe possibility was a stereotypic behavior...but it does not occur in summer, so that is proabably not be it. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ivermectin can kill sucking lice I think..When did you last worm with Ivermectin? My understanding is that lice inhabit the mane area more, but I don't really know. Have you looked in his mane? JEan in Failrbanksk, Alaska, 4 fresh snow! $30 worth of Tuttles Brute Insecticide from Valley Vet. I think Odin has lice. He has clearly been biting at his flanksthe hair is worn off...in patterns that almost have to be from bites. There is a bit of raw skin under the hair...though he is not bare of hair anywhere except on one spot on the loose skin in the corner of his flanks. That spot looks round, almost like ringworm, but the exact location leads me to believe that it is a spot where he could reach well enough to take all the hair off with his teeth. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am looking for confirmation of my medical opinion before ordering about $30 worth of Tuttles Brute Insecticide from Valley Vet. I think Odin has lice. He has clearly been biting at his flanksthe hair is worn off...in patterns that almost have to be from bites. There is a bit of raw skin under the hair...though he is not bare of hair anywhere except on one spot on the loose skin in the corner of his flanks. That spot looks round, almost like ringworm, but the exact location leads me to believe that it is a spot where he could reach well enough to take all the hair off with his teeth. And the spot is not perfectly roundthere is hair in the middle. The thing that has me slightly confused is that he does not show signs of lice and irritation. I looked around for the lice themselves (without a comb, though) and found nothing. It does seem to me though that I saw a louselike critter on my coat after leaving Odin's pen a couple weeks ago...that matches the yellow with brown bands description of biting lice. There is nothing in the pen for them to rub on really, so it may be that he can only do himself damage on his flanks, where he can reach. Poor guy! My internet search is not absolutely definitive on the subject (cannot find a really detailed explanation that I would like) but it does appear to me that it is probably lice. I got some dust last night and treated his topline (and Gunthar's, who was in with him) as directed, but I am thinking I need to get something longer acting to really eradicate them. (It does not help that it is raining right now! I figure the Tuttle's Brute Insecticide (long acting, with the highest percentage of active ingredient) or the Repel 35 Bio Groom (slightly less of the active ingredient). These are, from what I can tell, enhanced biocides...have a chemical besides the pyrethrins found in the dust. The Brute is a wipeon, the other a spray on. I figure the wipeon is safer to all of our lungs. Opinions...before I break out the credit card and order? TIA Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Of Lice
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone.. I have three questions to address: pick one in replying so we don't mess up the archives? 1. Who out there will admit to having had lice in their barn? and what did you do about it? Yes, we have done the lice routine here, several times, since they are rather indgenous creatures in our climate. the most successfull remedy I have found is a combination of Bio Groom Repel 35 spray, which kills the little buggers dead! Then I give a bath with Bio Groom Shampoo with Pyrethrins - make sure you get the one with Pyrethrins, not just the regular shampoo - which seems to take care of the rest of it. In the winter when it's too cold and nasty for shampoo I spray first with the Bio Groom Repel 35, and then use any one of a number of dry powder lice killers - several are on the market - to treat the mane, topline, and tail roots about once a week for a month. It seems to work for Line, who has a very long thick winter coat and seems to attract the littl varmints! This year there are no deer or llamas in her woods and so far we see no evidence of lice, so maybe the problem is solved. Here's hoping. Bio Groom products are available in several Equine Equipment Catalogues. I'll send you some sources if you can't find it at your local feed/tack store. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Of Lice and wo(MEN) and Round Pens
This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Cheryl, I have had to dust my horses' for lice this year. I used the Dry Kill. Sulphur is safer than Rotenone. Worming with Ivermictin will also kill most lice. I have an on going battle with lice on the Angora Goats. At least the goat lice is host specific. I just finished building a round pen last summer. I made mine with wooden posts and spruce or pine rails which I cut in the forestry. The diameter of the round pen is 60 feet. My rails are 4 to 5 inches in diameter. Good luck. Alison Bakken Alberta
Re: of Lice wo(men), etc...
This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheryl Beillard wrote:Who out there will admit to having had lice in their barn? We have not had lice in our barnyet, but I did board at a barn where one of the horses did have lice. They used a powder, probably something like Dry Kill and I believe it didn't take long to eradicate the lice. I have heard that lice can be contracted by the horses from birds,ie; barn swallows or sparrows, building nests in the barn. Frequently the birds have lice and the lice fall on the animals. Can anyone verify this? Also, on the subject of round pens.We have probaly one of the cheapest round pen-areas, and for what we use it for, it works well for us. We had to haul in four-ten yard dump trucks of sand for the base of the round pen. We are on clay, and needed something for drainage and footing. Up here we pay about $100.00 for a load of sand. We have about 20 T-posts around the perimeter (60' diameter) of the pen, and 3/8 poly rope strung in two tiers along the posts. This gives a good visual barrier and is fine to work my older horses in. I have, however, run into a youngster that when she had had enough round pen work decided to jump out and trot back to the barn. I don't work her at liberty in there anymore! We still use the round pen a lot, to loosen up the horses before a ride, do some tune up work and I can work the older horses at liberty with out any problem. When we can afford it, we will probably put up a more stubstantial structure, but this works for now and was relatively inexpensive. Mary Ofjord North Coast fjords
Re: Of Lice and wo(MEN) and Round Pens
This message is from: carol j makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheryl Beillard wrote: This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone.. I have three questions to address: pick one in replying so we don't mess up the archives? 2. I am looking to start ground driving the same filly, when it's a little warmer and at the moment, have no pen or ring to work in. Am going to build one .. but the question is a) how big and b) what material. I see that John Lyon advertises them, of course, but I'll bet they are pricey. OTOH, you can move it or sell it I guess if you find you're not using it? OR would it be better to build a wood corral (round cedar rails is probably the cheapest option, as we can cut them on our property) .. but then it's permanent. Hi Cheryl, I too want to build a round pen and do not want to spend a whole lot. So saw this one from HorseGuard at www.horseguardfence.com I believe it is only $350.00. I have a lot of the wide electric tape from my fencing so will use that and do my own version of their pen. But your horse MUST respect the electric even though the pen is not charged. The round pen must be no smaller than 50ft in diameter. I got my 1 1/2 inch tape from Nasco in WI Their # is1-800-558-9595 and I have had excellent service from them as a supplier. If you want more info, you can email me privately. On another subject. I logged with Heidi yesterday and she did great. I am sure this was a first for her and I know it was for me. Carol M. On Golden Pond Siren WI
Re: Of Lice/wo(MEN)/Round Pens/Brag Alert
This message is from: Carl Sarah Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello from Teresa horse-sitting at Sarah's in the Selkirk Mountains of Idaho: Cheryl said: Hi everyone.. I have three questions to address: pick one in replying so we don't mess up the archives? 2OR better to build a wood corral Chip built a simple round pen with poles and hot wire. Took about two days, drains well, and can come down and move easy. Jen can undo the 'gate' (hot wire) from her horse which is good trail practice. Cheap and easy alternative if your not sure. 3. Finally .. I have my own brag alert .. can't keep quiet anymore -- my eldest son, Julien, just won a JUNO (Cdn equivalent of a musical Oscar, I guess) CONGRATULATIONS Cheryl!! You have every right to be proud! and you DO NOT have to shut up - Good kids don't raise themselves and successful kids, no matter how large or small the milestone, can only be successful because their parents nurtured their natural talents and built upon a solid foundation to strengthen their weak areas. Besides, a number of the same principles apply to children and horses: 1) If they aren't responding in the correct way you need to change how you are teaching so they can understand what you expect from them. 2) Praise often for correct behaviors and 'No' won't need to be in your vocabulary very often 3)Talk in a confident, soothing voice; screaming will only upset and confuse everyone. 4) Lavish love and one-on-one attention on a daily basis for the best results. 5) Listen to you child/horse, develope the telepathy people were talking about, know their individual personality and teach to it - your surprises will always be pleasant in nature.
Re: Of Lice and wo(MEN) and Round Pens
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations Cheryl on your son's achievements. Where did he use to practice his music? Can't imagine surviving some of that din. Of course that is what my Grandmother used to also say. Re lice, honest, never had them. Did have one horse some years ago have possible ring worm and the vet who is not very popular had me wash my horse with ddt. A very dangerous and now banned substance. Jean Ugh, it is now in the forties, gray and raining torrents. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Of Lice and wo(MEN) and Round Pens
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone.. I have three questions to address: pick one in replying so we don't mess up the archives? 1. Who out there will admit to having had lice in their barn? and what did you do about it? My new filly came with some, I'm afraid ..something that can happen in a large herd .. and after not being happy about the state of her coat since she arrived, I had a good look with the vet, and discovered that yes, there were some little critters, the same colour as fjord fur, hiding in that thick winter mat. I've put something called Dry Kill dust on it (Rotenone and Sulphur) .. but don't know if it will need more than one or two applications and if I should dust my pregnant mare (she's due April 16) .. I know you can eat vegetables after a rain, if you 've dusted with Rotenone, but wonder about the sulphur. And yes, when they were small my kids came home with head lice too .. the whole neighbourhood was shampooing in that disgusting soap! 2. I am looking to start ground driving the same filly, when it's a little warmer and at the moment, have no pen or ring to work in. Am going to build one .. but the question is a) how big and b) what material. I see that John Lyon advertises them, of course, but I'll bet they are pricey. OTOH, you can move it or sell it I guess if you find you're not using it? OR would it be better to build a wood corral (round cedar rails is probably the cheapest option, as we can cut them on our property) .. but then it's permanent. 3. Finally .. I have my own brag alert .. can't keep quiet anymore -- my eldest son, Julien, just won a JUNO (Cdn equivalent of a musical Oscar, I guess) .. granted it was awarded with the group last Sat. night, rather than on Sunday when Celine Dion, Shania Twain and Sarah McLaughlin were all up for the big one, etc. but it is a great feeling nonetheless .. His band, the Wooden Stars, won for Best Alternative Album, which just about sums up his lifestyle until now! And I have to eat my words, .. and there were a lot of them, over the years! Now I'll shut up.
Re: mites and lice
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
O.K..so if it's not bugs.not heat...and your horse is still losing
hairhow about ..hay
on the other side of the fenceit happened to our 19 year old
stallion Eric{came over in utero when the Ever's Ellinor was imported}
did I feel dumb when after 2 weeks of doctoring
Eric's ,getting more hairless by the day,neck,I caught him in the act!!! The
proverb goesthe fool utterth all his mind.that's why I'll be mostly a
lurkersee ya.Linda.
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From: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: mites and lice
Date: Tue, Dec 28, 1999, 1:22 AM
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey everyone. If you can't see the bugs, but your horse is pulling his
coat on the fence, obviously uncomfortable, it might be heat. The first
year we had Fj, he was doing that. We powdered him, but the next day
when I brought him in to ride the experts (Barn manager, two
instructors) thought he might be too hot. Obvious solution... Clip!
That in itself was a revelation, as we discovered that they have three
layers of fur. The super long guard hairs to ice over, the normal
winter coat, then a layer of down. Super thick, and death to clipper
blades. He was absolutely ecstatic when we clipped him, and he now gets
a hunter type clip every winter. We leave the belly too, so that he has
a layer between him and the ground. No more itching. Of course, we
don't usually have a problem with mites or lice, so it made the heat
prognosis a little more obvious. But even clipped he doesn't get
blanketed unless it is colder than -20 or raining or else he will remove
his blanket.
Re: mites and lice
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
o.k.if it's not bugs and it's not heat...maybe it's fence Our
19 year old stallion Eric{who was in the Ever's Ellinor when she was
imported years ago} started losing hair below his mane.This kind of
distressed me because he had made such a turn around since we got him.He
just needed
basic care...like teeth floating,worming and some good nutrition.But this
new thingit was getting worse every dayhis skin was getting bloody.I
tried lice powders,ointments..then one day when i went out I surprised
him,he pulled his head in quickly thru the fence.he was trying to get
the hay that was stacked not to far awaywell DUH!!! I felt pretty
stupid.I am more of a lurker on this list..a fool uttereth all his
mind;But a wise man keepeth it in til afterwards
Don't want to show my ignorance too often!see yaLinda
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From: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: mites and lice
Date: Tue, Dec 28, 1999, 1:22 AM
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey everyone. If you can't see the bugs, but your horse is pulling his
coat on the fence, obviously uncomfortable, it might be heat. The first
year we had Fj, he was doing that. We powdered him, but the next day
when I brought him in to ride the experts (Barn manager, two
instructors) thought he might be too hot. Obvious solution... Clip!
That in itself was a revelation, as we discovered that they have three
layers of fur. The super long guard hairs to ice over, the normal
winter coat, then a layer of down. Super thick, and death to clipper
blades. He was absolutely ecstatic when we clipped him, and he now gets
a hunter type clip every winter. We leave the belly too, so that he has
a layer between him and the ground. No more itching. Of course, we
don't usually have a problem with mites or lice, so it made the heat
prognosis a little more obvious. But even clipped he doesn't get
blanketed unless it is colder than -20 or raining or else he will remove
his blanket.
mites and lice
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey everyone. If you can't see the bugs, but your horse is pulling his coat on the fence, obviously uncomfortable, it might be heat. The first year we had Fj, he was doing that. We powdered him, but the next day when I brought him in to ride the experts (Barn manager, two instructors) thought he might be too hot. Obvious solution... Clip! That in itself was a revelation, as we discovered that they have three layers of fur. The super long guard hairs to ice over, the normal winter coat, then a layer of down. Super thick, and death to clipper blades. He was absolutely ecstatic when we clipped him, and he now gets a hunter type clip every winter. We leave the belly too, so that he has a layer between him and the ground. No more itching. Of course, we don't usually have a problem with mites or lice, so it made the heat prognosis a little more obvious. But even clipped he doesn't get blanketed unless it is colder than -20 or raining or else he will remove his blanket.
Re: Lice
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shouldn't you see the nits on the hair shafts. I have, ahem, *extensive* experience with human head lice. They lay eggs on the shaft at a precisely predictable distance from the skin. Your vet should be able to tell you how to identify them if they are anything at all like human head lice. At 10:49 AM 6/18/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Amy ~ no the problem isn't limited to summer, and the brownish spots appear to be actual damage to the hair shafts when magnified. We don't see any inflamation or redness on the skin. Can I send you hair samples? Julie Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lice
This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:24 AM 6/18/98 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shouldn't you see the nits on the hair shafts. One vet said the darkish area were lice eggs...another vet said no, it was damaged hair shafts. We have had head lice experience also...kids in school...but this really has me puzzled. I definately doesn't look like the glued on nits that one sees with humal lice. Of course I am a bit past 40, and you know what happens to close vision...don't know if I would see a louse if it was staring me in the face! Julie in New York
Re: Lice
This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Amy ~ no the problem isn't limited to summer, and the brownish spots appear to be actual damage to the hair shafts when magnified. We don't see any inflamation or redness on the skin. Can I send you hair samples? Julie
Re: Lice
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amy K White) Julia, This sounds like it may be more from Culicoides hypersensitivity rather than lice. Culicoides is a gnat and will attack the horse in the mane and tail causing the area to itch and become inflamed. If you've never seen the lice, this could be a possibility. Also, lice tend to concentrate more in the mane whereas culicoides will attack both mane and tail. The season may provide a clue. The gnats obviously are active in the summer time, but lice tend to be more of a problem in the winter. The brownish discoloring is due to blood when the gnat bites. -Steve Steve and Amy White On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:40:38 -0400 Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] The L word, and I don't mean love! Several years ago when we brought our first stallion and were preparing him for a show, I noticed dirty appearing areas in the white of his mane that wouldn't wash out. They were impervious to every solution I used, including clorex and peroxide. (Not on the horse...I pulled hairs for test cleanings!) Finally I asked a vet who suggested it was from LICE! Upon close examination, the shaft of the hair has short, brownish areas that don't wash or scrape off, and the hair breaks easily. The affected animals usually rub their manes and tails but not always. I have never seen the actual louse, but when I treat with lice dust the new hair growth comes in white and perfect, and the brown stained areas gradually grow out and are trimmed off. Over the last 6 years we have purchased Fjords from all over, and many of them have arrived with this problem, so I think it is fairly common, but perhaps not recognized? We recently got a mare in for breeding with a foal by her side, and while the mare's mane looked pretty normal, (close examination did show some brown stains) the foal's tail was mostly rubbed off, and the hairs that remained were almost completely stained brown. (He is only a month old!) I would really be interested to hear from others who have noticed this problem, because having never seen the lice, I still find it hard to believe. I will be happy to send sample hairs to anyone who would like a closer look! Julie @ Old Hickory Farm in upstate New York. _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Lice
This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] The L word, and I don't mean love! Several years ago when we brought our first stallion and were preparing him for a show, I noticed dirty appearing areas in the white of his mane that wouldn't wash out. They were impervious to every solution I used, including clorex and peroxide. (Not on the horse...I pulled hairs for test cleanings!) Finally I asked a vet who suggested it was from LICE! Upon close examination, the shaft of the hair has short, brownish areas that don't wash or scrape off, and the hair breaks easily. The affected animals usually rub their manes and tails but not always. I have never seen the actual louse, but when I treat with lice dust the new hair growth comes in white and perfect, and the brown stained areas gradually grow out and are trimmed off. Over the last 6 years we have purchased Fjords from all over, and many of them have arrived with this problem, so I think it is fairly common, but perhaps not recognized? We recently got a mare in for breeding with a foal by her side, and while the mare's mane looked pretty normal, (close examination did show some brown stains) the foal's tail was mostly rubbed off, and the hairs that remained were almost completely stained brown. (He is only a month old!) I would really be interested to hear from others who have noticed this problem, because having never seen the lice, I still find it hard to believe. I will be happy to send sample hairs to anyone who would like a closer look! Julie @ Old Hickory Farm in upstate New York.
