Re: Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all, > > I am looking for confirmation of my "medical > opinion I think Odin has > lice I figure the > Tuttle's Brute > Insecticide (long acting, with the highest > percentage of active ingredient) > or the Repel 35 Bio Groom (slightly less of the > active ingredient). Gail, I have some experience with lice, unfortunately. We have one mare who seems to get them every once in a while - usually late winter/early spring. It definitely sounds like lice might be Odin's problem. I have successfully treated them with Bio Groom's Repel 35 spray on - used after bathing the horse with Bio Groom Shampoo. Bio Groom makes two horse shampoos - one for lice and one 'regular' shampoo. My feed store didn't carry the one for lice, but ordered it for me from their supplier, since they already carried other Bio Groom products. The Repel 35 works well to get the 'rest of the critters' as they hatch. With a long coat on the horse I brush the hair backwards, spray a little on(or spray it on a cloth and wipe it on), then move on to the next spot. If the idea of a spray being inhaled bothers you, just direct the spray onto a towel or small rag, rub it on the horse until the hair/skin is damp, and voila - you're done. Just like a wipe on. Good luck. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Ivermectin can kill sucking lice I think..When did you last worm with >Ivermectin? Within the last few weeks. I saw something on one website on Ivermectin killing lice, but not on any others. I wondered if they were correct. If he has lice, it seems more likely to me that it is the biting type...though I have to say, I do feel like his general hair coat is not as good looking as it should be...like maybe he is not as healthy as he should be. > >My understanding is that lice inhabit the mane area more, but I don't >really know. Have you looked in his mane? Yes...no sign of them...but I have yet to get out my nit/louse comb. I spent a month in the seventies wielding my trusty nit comb on my daughter and son. Actually managed to stop a louse infestation without using ANY insecticides. (The school wanted me to use Lindane on my childrenI was not pleased.) I would make them strip to their underwear and sit out in the sun while I combed, then shower afterwards and put their clothing out in the sun (we had no dryer or really hot water to sterilize the clothing). Our neighbors finally gave their kids a buzz cut after months of trying Lindane shampoos...so...if I put my mind to it I could probably find lice if they are there...it is just that all that Fjord fur is daunting to look thru. Allergies have been suggested. It does not sound like the right location for mange symptoms. Will let you all know if/when I figure it out. ONe possibility was a "stereotypic behavior"...but it does not occur in summer, so that is proabably not be it. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ivermectin can kill sucking lice I think..When did you last worm with Ivermectin? My understanding is that lice inhabit the mane area more, but I don't really know. Have you looked in his mane? JEan in Failrbanksk, Alaska, 4" fresh snow! >$30 worth of Tuttles Brute Insecticide from Valley Vet. I think Odin has >lice. He has clearly been biting at his flanksthe hair is worn off...in >patterns that almost have to be from bites. There is a bit of raw skin >under the hair...though he is not bare of hair anywhere except on one spot >on the loose skin in the corner of his flanks. That spot looks round, >almost like ringworm, but the exact location leads me to believe that it is >a spot where he could reach well enough to take all the hair off with his >teeth. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lice, Diagnosis, Treatment
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, I am looking for confirmation of my "medical opinion" before ordering about $30 worth of Tuttles Brute Insecticide from Valley Vet. I think Odin has lice. He has clearly been biting at his flanksthe hair is worn off...in patterns that almost have to be from bites. There is a bit of raw skin under the hair...though he is not bare of hair anywhere except on one spot on the loose skin in the corner of his flanks. That spot looks round, almost like ringworm, but the exact location leads me to believe that it is a spot where he could reach well enough to take all the hair off with his teeth. And the spot is not perfectly roundthere is hair in the middle. The thing that has me slightly confused is that he does not show signs of lice and irritation. I looked around for the lice themselves (without a comb, though) and found nothing. It does seem to me though that I saw a louselike critter on my coat after leaving Odin's pen a couple weeks ago...that matches the "yellow with brown bands" description of biting lice. There is nothing in the pen for them to rub on really, so it may be that he can only do himself damage on his flanks, where he can reach. Poor guy! My internet search is not absolutely definitive on the subject (cannot find a really detailed explanation that I would like) but it does appear to me that it is probably lice. I got some dust last night and treated his topline (and Gunthar's, who was in with him) as directed, but I am thinking I need to get something longer acting to really eradicate them. (It does not help that it is raining right now! I figure the Tuttle's Brute Insecticide (long acting, with the highest percentage of active ingredient) or the Repel 35 Bio Groom (slightly less of the active ingredient). These are, from what I can tell, "enhanced" biocides...have a chemical besides the pyrethrins found in the dust. The Brute is a wipeon, the other a spray on. I figure the wipeon is safer to all of our lungs. Opinions...before I break out the credit card and order? TIA Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
