Mike May
This message is from: Jeanne jeann...@frii.com I would like to personally wish Mike May the very best in his retirement! As of 1/1/11, Mike is now retired! Many of you have heard me say, taking over the Registrar position from Mike, I will be filling some HUGE shoes. Mike has been awesome in helping me learn a lot of what he knows. Thank you, Mike, for all your years of service to the NFHR. We would not be the Registry we are today without all you have done! Please come to Mike's Retirement Banquet at the NFHR Educational Forum on 1/29/11 in Murfreesboro, TN. Go to NFHR.com to sign-up! Thanks, again, Mike. All my best to you and your family!! Jeanne Poirier - Berthoud, CO Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Mike May
This message is from: Jo Wilgus rjrfj...@verizon.net DITTO! jo wilgus - Original Message - From: Jeanne jeann...@frii.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: Mike May This message is from: Jeanne jeann...@frii.com I would like to personally wish Mike May the very best in his retirement! As of 1/1/11, Mike is now retired! Many of you have heard me say, taking over the Registrar position from Mike, I will be filling some HUGE shoes. Mike has been awesome in helping me learn a lot of what he knows. Thank you, Mike, for all your years of service to the NFHR. We would not be the Registry we are today without all you have done! Please come to Mike's Retirement Banquet at the NFHR Educational Forum on 1/29/11 in Murfreesboro, TN. Go to NFHR.com to sign-up! Thanks, again, Mike. All my best to you and your family!! Jeanne Poirier - Berthoud, CO Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Mike May
This message is from: Dave McWethy 4nh...@gmail.com Good news - Jeanne is an excellent choice for the task. Congratulations to us, Jeanne, and Mike! Dave Sent from my iPad Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: thank you Mike May
This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf laz...@united.net An announcement from Mike himself will be coming soon in the e-newsletter. It is hard to imagine the NFHR without Mike at the helm. It should make us all rest easier to know that Mike has agreed to remain available in an advisory capacity for the foreseeable future to ensure that the Registry goes forward as usual, so we haven't seen the last of him by any means. Mike is also responsible for training Jeanne, the new Registrar, and is confident she will maintain his high level of service. There will be a celebration for Mike at the Educational Forum to be held in Nashville, Tn next January, so make plans to attend. Ardeth Obenauf The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Thank you Mike May
This message is from: Patricia Holland pathollan...@gmail.com Hello List About three weeks ago, the owners I am currently working for were called by a female saying she was the new Registrar of NFHR - it's been confirmed that indeed you apparently do have a new Registrar. I would like to take this time to thank Mike May who in my opinion gave of himself unconditionally, always acted in a professional manner and placed the members concerns over his own. THANK YOU Mike, for all the years of service and far exceeding your role as Registrar And unless anyone can correct me a congratulations is in order to Mrs. Jeanie Poirier, for taking the well worn reins from Mike's hands. Jeanie is a major supporter of NFHR, and designs and maintains the NFHR website. I first met her and her family at Blue Earth when their daughters came as students of and with Beth Beymer (Editor of the Herald and NFHR Evaluator), Jeanie had a great eye for the Fjords and their well being, making note when horses were mistreated. Jeanie's daughter, Samantha is a sought after trainer in the Fjord world, working now as a professional for Howard Fiedler (President of the NFHR) and his wife, Sophie at Green Valley Farm in Illinois. I am saddened to see Mike go, but I am sure the new Registrar will provide the membership of NFHR with the same skills she has shown through out her life as a Mother, wife, coach and role model. Have a good retirement, Mike - I wish you well and thank you. Sincerely, Pat Holland Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Mike???
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike! I have a feeling it's an AOL thing; I keep getting Email I send to you returned, saying that your address is not working. I've tried Mike and Registrar at both NFHR.ORG and NFHR.COM. So, hopefully you'll get this. I need to give you my new mailing address, and I might as well let everyone else know as well: Amy Evers PO Box 1389 Cottage Grove, OR 97424 Have a great day everyone! Amy The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Praise for Mike May
This message is from: Jill E. Fishinger CPA P.C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list, I must offer my praise for Mike May. I have been working with Mike for quite a while to get one of our fjords registered. I will spare you all the details. What resulted of Mike May's dedication and hard work got our fjord registered as well as her dam. For alot of people Mike May is thier only contact with the NFHR. Mike May is a wonderful representative of our bred and he embodies what I hope our membership stands for, kind willing and eager to promote these wonderful horses we are sharing our lives with. Just my two cents. Jill E. Fishinger Alma, CO The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
More praise for Mike May
This message is from: Debbie Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will also tell you that Mike May has so much dedication for our fjords. When I got my first fjord, he helped me and explained how to go through the process of registration..again, when I had my first fjord baby, he explained exactly what I had to do. He is always genuinely sincere and has helped me so many times. I found out that he will help how ever he can. During the planning of the 25th anniversary show, since I was the one that lives so close to Winona, there were lots of phone calls directed to me. Mike was always so helpful, and would bend over backwards to help and give me answers or direct me to appropriate person if he didn't know. I agree that he truly is a wonderful representative on our wonderful breed. We are fortunate to have new people talk with Mike as he sincerely cares. I have heard of so many wonderful stories of people registering fjords and Mike's help and knowledge to accomplish it. Hats off to you, Mike!!! We really appreciate you! Debbie Ulrich Corgi Hill Farm Winona, MN The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get in line (LOL) Ellen. Mike, I have waited some years now and I will be 82 soon! Will you marry me? Jean Gayle Wow! Two proposals in the same day! I am sorry to have to turn them both down though as I am sure my wonderful wife of almost 34 years - Renee would not approve of this. Of course I didn't ask her about it yet so you never know... Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:19 PM 11/24/2006, you wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has devoted enormous amounts of time, free, to help us all in our work with Fjords. Thanks so much for your kind words Jean. I do try to help anyone out with any Fjord related problems they may have. I am the first to admit that I don't have all of the answers. But I usually know of someone that could possibly help out. I don't give advise on things I know I don't know. For instance the mule training quote I made. I didn't say that I thought they trained like a mule - I said Sometimes people say they train more like a mule Mike, I have waited some years now and I will be 82 soon! Will you marry me? I am sorry Jean - Renee says I can't have 2 wives she isn't going anywhere so I guess not. Mike Jean Gayle === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:19 PM 11/24/2006, you wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has devoted enormous amounts of time, free, to help us all in our work with Fjords. When I replied to this same message a little while ago I started to reply to set the record straight that I do get paid for what I do these days. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has devoted enormous amounts of time, free, to help us all in our work with Fjords. When I replied to this same message a little while ago I started to reply to set the record straight that I do get paid for what I do these days. Mike I couldn't help but also wonder if a lot of your service is gratis, as you respond any time of day, anywhere you are.. without fail ..where else in this busy world can you find service like that from one person? In all the long while we've been doing business with your office, we've never once been disappointed in your performance as registrar. Guess we should all rise up and tell you that from time to time, thanks Mike. Ruthie and Gene, ns mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fw: accusations of Mike
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Re: accusations of Mike This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:19 PM 11/24/2006, you wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has devoted enormous amounts of time, free, to help us all in our work with Fjords. When I replied to this same message a little while ago I started to reply to set the record straight that I do get paid for what I do these days. Mike You do not get paid for the slings and arrows you have to take Mike. Jean Gayle === The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:43 AM 11/25/2006, you wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guess we should all rise up and tell you that from time to time, thanks Mike. Thank you Ruthie. And thanks to all of you that have sent private messages too. Mike Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fw: accusations of Mike
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:48 PM 11/25/2006, you wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] You do not get paid for the slings and arrows you have to take Mike. Jean Gayle No that is true but I have big shoulders I can take it. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am going to step into the vitriolic messages going about Mike. A person can be misquoted, make an error in meaning, goof up once in awhile!!! But Mike is one of the most honest persons I have dealt with for some years now. He has devoted enormous amounts of time, free, to help us all in our work with Fjords. He is an unrewarded and hard working man who to my knowledge has not a mean bone in his body! But there are some very mean remarks out there from uninformed people, people who just like to take others down, or grumble. Mike, I have waited some years now and I will be 82 soon! Will you marry me? Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: accusations of Mike
This message is from: Ellen Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get in line (LOL) Ellen. Mike, I have waited some years now and I will be 82 soon! Will you marry me? Jean Gayle The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: contact Mike May
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:48 AM 5/23/2005, you wrote: This message is from: Janet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone please email me Mike May's email address? I could not get the 'contact NFHR' link to work. My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janet. Mike thanks Janet === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT for Mike May
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:48 PM 11/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, I was trying to email you back to tell you thanks, and that I really appreciated your help. However, both of your email addresses are coming back as being undeliverable all of a sudden. Thought I should let you know. Hmmm, I have been getting mail all day here. In fact I got the one you sent this morning thanking me for the info. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT for Mike May
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, I was trying to email you back to tell you thanks, and that I really appreciated your help. However, both of your email addresses are coming back as being undeliverable all of a sudden. Thought I should let you know. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjords Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack Accessories White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Question for Mike I believe
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure if I'm sending this to the right email address for my request but here goes. Would it be okay for me to ask the posters to the fjord list if anyone would like to donate items for the Freedom Hills Benefit Auction? It will be held March 9th this year and all the proceeds raised go to providing therapeutic riding for many challenged people and money for rescuing horses and ponies and rehabilitating them. We teach approximately 100 plus students a week year round, students pay $20 a lesson if they can afford it and pay nothing if they can't. We take in an average of 4 to 6 sometimes more rescue cases a year. Some we rehabilitate for our use, some go on to new homes after a lot of care and work. We hope to raise $30,000 this year which is about a quarter of our operating cost per year. As many charities have found since the Sept. 11th Tragedy donations to our program are down by over half. We have provided low and or no cost therapy for over 20 years. Anyway that's my request if it doesn't violate any list rules. And I have to add as a relatively new lister I thoroughly enjoy all the posts. Thank you, Robyn in MD where the weather can't decide what season it is day to day or sometimes hour to hour
Re: apologies to Mike in advance
This message is from: Mariposa Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen McCarthy wrote: Hey Billwatcha Bin Smokin??!!! Bed Linen?
Re: apologies to Mike in advance
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Billwatcha Bin Smokin??!!! Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: apologies to Mike in advance Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:13:58 -0500 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello listers, At the risk of alarming everyone, I wonder of anyone has heard that the FBI has uncovered a terrorist cell within the NFHR? Fortunately, the FBI has already arrested Bin Loafin, Bin Sleepin, and Bin Drinkin. They have yet to find Bin Workin. [:o) And now to don the flame-proof suit. Bill _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
apologies to Mike in advance
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello listers, At the risk of alarming everyone, I wonder of anyone has heard that the FBI has uncovered a terrorist cell within the NFHR? Fortunately, the FBI has already arrested Bin Loafin, Bin Sleepin, and Bin Drinkin. They have yet to find Bin Workin. [:o) And now to don the flame-proof suit. Bill
Re: new foal/ Mike May, microchips
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:54 PM 9/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I meant for this to go to Mike personally. ;-) And I didn't realize I was replying to the list until after I had hit the send key. Oh well... === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new foal/ Mike May, microchips
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I meant for this to go to Mike personally. Steve On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:07:43 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, What type of microchips does the registry use. I was wanting to get a scanner for my practice and would like to get the same type that you use. I know there are about 3 different types and some will not read others. Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
Mike - glad you are home safely
This message is from: Dave 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, Glad to hear that you are home safely and that you and your family are well. Can't believe what has happened in your country as it is so horrendous, but obviously my thoughts, and those of the members of the Fjord Horse Registry of Scotland, are with you all at this time. David Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Stallion Influence - Question for Mike May
This message is from: Michael Bickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mike for both the computation and your comments. Mike Mike and Cindy Bickman Stepping Stone Farm Canton, Georgia - Original Message - -- Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 15:27:58 -0500 From: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stallion Influence - Question for Mike May Ok I did some counting and here is what I found: I found that I have 144 Stallion Reports with at least 1 mare bred on them. I counted 480 mares bred total. So 480/144 = 3.33 So we are not all that far off I guess. I will have to say that there are some stallions that have a fair amount of influence though. There are probably 10 or so (I didn't count these) that have more than 1 page of mares. There are 6 mares to a page. ===
Re: Stallion Influence - Question for Mike May
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok I did some counting and here is what I found: At 10:05 PM 2/2/01 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Michael Bickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike also mentioned that he received 155 stallion breeding reports last year (including those indicating no mares were bred). I have received a few more late ones so I now have 159 Stallion Breeding Reports for 2000. So another approach would be to count the number of mares bred listed on the reports and divide that number by the number of reports showing at least one mare bred. This approach, although using a smaller universe than looking at all horses registered in 2000, would automatically correct for unregistered foals and imported horses as neither would impact the computation. This was the method I used as it was easier automatically didn't count Transfers imports etc. I found that I have 144 Stallion Reports with at least 1 mare bred on them. I counted 480 mares bred total. So 480/144 = 3.33 So we are not all that far off I guess. I will have to say that there are some stallions that have a fair amount of influence though. There are probably 10 or so (I didn't count these) that have more than 1 page of mares. There are 6 mares to a page. I think this information would be helpful in determining the relative influence of stallions vs. mares on the development of the Fjord breed in North America. Well there you have it Mike Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stallion Influence - Question for Mike May
This message is from: Michael Bickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] There seems to be agreement that the average Fjord stallion in North America sires about 1.5 to 2 foals per year. This statistic came form Mike May's 1/21/01 post which started with the following facts: 370 horses were registered in 2000 and there were 280 registered stallions born before 1/1/99. Mike then suggested not all the 280 stallions were still stallions, and reduced the likely number to 250, which made the ratio about 1.5 foals per stallion. Mike also pointed out that not all foals are registered, and came up with a range of about 1.5 to 2 mares bred per stallion. (I would point out that some of the 370 newly registered horses were imported and this would lower the ratio somewhat as I assume their sires were not registered in the NFHR.) However, Mike also pointed out that he received numerous stallion breeding reports which indicated no mares were bred. An interesting statistic would be: what are the average number of mares bred by stallions, counting only those stallions which bred mares that year? For example, if only 100 stallions bred mares in 2000, then the average number of mares bred by each breeding stallion would be closer to 4 (370 divided by 100). Mike also mentioned that he received 155 stallion breeding reports last year (including those indicating no mares were bred). So another approach would be to count the number of mares bred listed on the reports and divide that number by the number of reports showing at least one mare bred. This approach, although using a smaller universe than looking at all horses registered in 2000, would automatically correct for unregistered foals and imported horses as neither would impact the computation. I think this information would be helpful in determining the relative influence of stallions vs. mares on the development of the Fjord breed in North America. Mike Mike and Cindy Bickman Stepping Stone Farm Canton, Georgia
Re: mike m
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] no, its the other mike, mike. mike melby! denise - Original Message - From: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: mike m This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:20 PM 1/24/01 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike m, sorry don't have your email anymore. heralds are on their way!!! denise Is this for me? What Heralds? === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mike m
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:20 PM 1/24/01 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike m, sorry don't have your email anymore. heralds are on their way!!! denise Is this for me? What Heralds? === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mike m
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike m, sorry don't have your email anymore. heralds are on their way!!! denise
Re: You Asked Mike.. here's our list.
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 06:56 PM 10/5/00 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] #1 4 year old Gelding that does all riding and great on trail we are now starting him under cart. (approx 13.3 - 14 hands tall) Has withers! Brown Dun, No White Kids ride him on the trail and in the arena. We do alittle vaulting with him. He is bomb proof. $5500 I assume that means that the horse has no White markings on him and not that White Kids don't ride him! ;-) Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: You Asked Mike.. here's our list.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/5/00 6:55:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #1 4 year old Gelding that does all riding and great on trail we are now starting him under cart. (approx 13.3 - 14 hands tall) Has withers! Brown Dun, No White Kids ride him on the trail and in the arena. Now why on earth don't you allow white kids to ride him? Hee hee... Brigid in CA working on her Fjord web site and signature...
You Asked Mike.. here's our list.
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mike and the rest. Mike asked who has older horses for sale. We have some. We are in Southern Oregon. #1 4 year old Gelding that does all riding and great on trail we are now starting him under cart. (approx 13.3 - 14 hands tall) Has withers! Brown Dun, No White Kids ride him on the trail and in the arena. We do alittle vaulting with him. He is bomb proof. $5500 #2 6 year old Gelding that is working under saddle. We have not worked him under harness yet. (15 hands tall)Brown Dun, Bigger head. Looks more like a quarter horse cause he is big. He was had an unofficial EPM alert and we treated him for it immediately. Other wise has been healthy ever since. He had been roped off of and used mainly for cattle work on the farm. Kids do ride him but he is a stronger horse. $3500 #3 16 year old mare that is bred. Rides, vaults and does kids and currently in California doing a session with handicap children. Baby is due in April. Approx. 13.3 - 14 hands???. $6500 #4 14 year old mare. She is bred for a June baby. Rides (is a grass diver), Drives very competitive at the trot. Vaulting and balance work with children. Smaller mare 13- 13.1 maybe but stout. $6500 *We are not in a hurry to sell her for we are pairing her up with another mare for a team next week. We also have 2 babies/weaners colts for sale one for $2000 one for $3500. Please email me in private if you have questions. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, we are willing to sell others... (The government tells us all our stock is for sale.) Just that I am not happy to sell the others at this time. But money talks. We have several very quality mares in foal and a stallion. But... then the prices are... well out of this world. (lol) Catherine Lassesen at Hestehaven
Ring, and Thanksto Mike and Lori
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Claudia Galup) Thanks to all who have written to me about Ring, and congratulations and thanks to Mike and Lori for the new pedigree lookup--it's fabulous! claudia
Mike May
This message is from: Jeri L Rieger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mike, You constantly amaze me. Your outlook on life, sense of humor, throughness of your registar position and passion for Fjords are/is awesome. I throughly appreciate each aspect! Bravo on the life in1900 e-mail! Petitioning to be the President of your Fan Club, Jeri in missouri
Re: Mike?
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:35 PM 3/22/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-03-21 20:54:18 EST, you write: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Horses Gallop ~___/ ~___/~___/~___/ / (())// \\ OK Mike.Im thinking that you have WAAY too much time on your hands. You don't think that I have the time to create these things do you? Don't I wish. I just pass em on that's all. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-03-21 20:54:18 EST, you write: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Horses Gallop ~___/ ~___/~___/~___/ / (())// \\ OK Mike.Im thinking that you have WAAY too much time on your hands. ggg Lisa Pedersen
Re: Question for Mike May
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 06:57 AM 3/5/00 -0900, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the Registry consider breeding to an UNREGISTERED Fjord to be cross breeding? That is an interesting question Jean. I have never been asked that one before. I suppose that could be considered cross breeding only because we don't really know if it is a full blooded Fjord or not. On the other hand if the blood lines of the horse in question could be proven with DNA typing then it certainly wouldn't be considered cross breeding. A friend has a mare who is purebred but unregisterd because of the break in the transfer of papers, etc. of her dam. We know her parentage, both were registered with NFHR but the the dam's papers were not properly tranfered and the mare in question was never properly registered. The owner is now trying to get her registered but is having difficulties. This doesn't sound familiar Jean. Who is this we are talking about. You can answer this directly to me if you would rather. What horse is it? If I can look her up to see if she is DNA typed I can give a better answer. We can probably get it straightened out with some minor difficulties I am pretty sure. The question comes up because my friend who has the only Fjord stallion in Alaska (that I know of) has said he is afraid he will be penalized for crossbreeding if he breeds his stallion to this unregistered mare. I don't think that would happen if everything is as described so far. it looks to me like the parentage could be proven on it even though the ownership may be in doubt. The mare owner, while she would prefer to have her fjords registered, is mostly interested in breeding her mare for a another fjord for herself. But she would like to be able to register the foal also. Well lets get her name to me and I will do some looking and see what I can come up with. I am concerned that if she is not allowed to breed to a fjord stallion she will simply choose a non Fjord! I wouldn't think there should be any penalty for breeding to non registered purebred fjords. Can you clear this up? Hopefully I did a little bit anyway. We sure don't want her to breed her to a non Fjord stallion if she is a pure bred Fjord. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question for Mike May
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the Registry consider breeding to an UNREGISTERED Fjord to be cross breeding? A friend has a mare who is purebred but unregisterd because of the break in the transfer of papers, etc. of her dam. We know her parentage, both were registered with NFHR but the the dam's papers were not properly tranfered and the mare in question was never properly registered. The owner is now trying to get her registered but is having difficulties. The question comes up because my friend who has the only Fjord stallion in Alaska (that I know of) has said he is afraid he will be penalized for crossbreeding if he breeds his stallion to this unregistered mare. The mare owner, while she would prefer to have her fjords registered, is mostly interested in breeding her mare for a another fjord for herself. But she would like to be able to register the foal also. I am concerned that if she is not allowed to breed to a fjord stallion she will simply choose a non Fjord! I wouldn't think there should be any penalty for breeding to non registered purebred fjords. Can you clear this up? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, another great day, sunny and mid 30's forcast! . Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mike/Steve
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:19 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, can you give me pedigree information on LASSE, a gelding who is four and came from Wisconsin? He belongs to Ellen Davidson in VA. Sure I can. Here it is: LASSE CFC-I-756-SG Foaled May 14, 1995 Bred by CLINT F. CONVERSE, MONTLEY, MN STEINFINN N-1858 2.pr ORRJO N-1946 C-369 Sl. LENDA N-13690 2.pr ANVIL'S STEINFINN C-462 AA-A-131-S PRINCE C-39 QUEEN C-51 FAM-P-1458-M FREYA C-38 PRINCE C-39 ANDRE 221-B KAREN C-35 INGIBJORG 2165-B GORM 129-A HEIDIS 2096-B BRYNHILD 2046-A AFS === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike/Steve
This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, can you give me pedigree information on LASSE, a gelding who is four and came from Wisconsin? He belongs to Ellen Davidson in VA. Steve: She would like to join the list, and I can't find the right info. Could you send it to her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, both.
Re: thanks Mike
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:31 PM 8/27/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Mike May, Mike, I thought about sending this privately, but decided it was appropriate to send it over the List. I just wanted to thank you for your seemingly tireless dedication to replying to questions involving the Registry and Board of Directors, even though as you say you are not an official representative of the BOD. Well thank you very much Brian. It is nice to hear things like this once in awhile. By the way you too are to be Thanked for all of the free medical information and advise you share with this list all of the time. And for the wonderful articles in the Herald too. Thank You Brian! Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MIKE MAY, Fjords in Utah
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! I agree with the reviews about Mike May.he has been consistant and very patient here on this list, and as an unofficial spokesman of NFHR, brings calm, understanding and clarity to our emotional blabberings. THANKS MIKE !!! I had to mention a funny situation that happend yesterday here in Cedar, Ut. while my son and I were shopping downtown at a large Westernware store. This is cowboy heaven, here in Cedar, and I have never seen a bigger Quarter Horse population, even in horsey Norco. This comes along with the basic cowboy looking guy.Wranglers, NRA belt buckle, lace up Ariets, button down shirts, and of course a ballcap. ( No self-respecting modern cowboy wears his cowboy hat around town, unless hes on the way to sit in front of me at a consert, or a rodeo. ) You get the picture. BG After touring the huge store, without an English saddle in sight, we were asked by an above discribed cowboy type employee of the store if we had horsesnew to town ect. We started a discussion about local hay availability, and asked what kind of horses we were feeding. My son piped up, Norwegian Fjords.never heard of them have ya and I thought the guy was going to faint. YOU HAVE FJORDS??? he said, WOW MY Favorite Breed . Turns out, his dream is to ride a Fjord, and rope and do penning with his QH buddys, he has been following the breed, and even his parents took a vacation in Wy. at a place that used Fjords in their pack string. They called him from there and said to hurry up and find Fjords for them also, as they were very impressed at their sturdy docile nature. This 6'4 man, then started explaning to ME why a Fjord can beat out a basic Draft horse for easy keeping, cheaper to shoe, trailer, ect. I was just cracking up, as he went through his speech. He used to own a team of Percherons, but has sold them for something smaller to work with, and enjoy. Go figure ! He was very interested to hear of the Fjord shows, and the draft type events like hitch classes and logg skidding, and pulling we do . He took our address and cant wait till my herd hits town so he can come and see them. Too cool. My goal is to unpack 20 box's today. I will have to quit staring at my view if Im going to acomplish this. ( maybe I can take them out on the patio ) Na. Later guys. Have a great weekend ! Please join PAV Aussie and I for Fjord chat on Sun. night 9:00 Eastern time at PetsandVets on the NET. Horse room # 1. A HREF=http://www.petsandvets.com/;PETS AND VETS/A A HREF=http://volano1.suresite.com/petsvets/vcclient/horsechat.html;HORSE CHAT ROOM/ALisa Pedersen PAV FJORDS, Cedar City, Ut. where the real men ride Fjords ! TOOT TOOT Joel !
Re: The 13th Warrior (movie) and Mike
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Jean, everyone, I have to say I am very excited about this movie as my education/writing is focused on Germanic/Nordic Literature AND I love Fjords! Of course, I keep on telling myself Hollywood will not stay true to the story, but I can always hope for the best while watching beautiful horses. Mike and I were just talking by phone the other day and I made the comment I thought many of us have a tendency, online anyway, to see him as THE Registry. He is the one who always answers every question, retorts to all debates, helps difuse possible difficult issues and above all else, keeps the purpose of the Registry at heart. Good job, Mike. Lynda Daniel Bailey and Lynda C. Welch-Bailey Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI
Re: thanks Mike
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:31 PM 8/27/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Mike May, Mike, I thought about sending this privately, but decided it was appropriate to send it over the List. I just wanted to thank you for your seemingly tireless dedication to replying to questions involving the Registry and Board of Directors AMEN to that!! I've often thought the same and you said it so well. THANKS so much Mike! Gene and Ruthie Bushnell, NW MT
Re: thanks Mike
This message is from: Jon A. Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:18 PM 08/27/1999 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Nathan Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I just wanted to thank you for your seemingly tireless dedication to replying to questions involving the Registry and Board of Directors, Amen. And you seem to never lose your cool. Barbara Lyn Lapp Well said Brian and Barbara. Tusen takk Mike!
Re: thanks Mike
This message is from: Nathan Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I just wanted to thank you for your seemingly tireless dedication to replying to questions involving the Registry and Board of Directors, Amen. And you seem to never lose your cool. Barbara Lyn Lapp
thanks Mike
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Mike May, Mike, I thought about sending this privately, but decided it was appropriate to send it over the List. I just wanted to thank you for your seemingly tireless dedication to replying to questions involving the Registry and Board of Directors, even though as you say you are not an official representative of the BOD. If you got paid for everything people thought you were responsible for doing, you'd be a rich man! The Fjord breed has been enriched by your willingness to help in many different capacities. Thanks! Brian J.
Mike May, please
This message is from: Nathan Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, I have a question on registry. Could you please respond off list? Barbara Lyn Lapp Lapp Family Fjords
Re: Mike...
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:51 PM 7/12/99 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear mike, me too. i am waiting to get two sets of registration papers on my two boys. how long does it take? who do i check with (besides the sellers) to see if it has been transfered etc. thanks, denise delgado Well that would be me. Let me know the horses Name Reg# or at least a sire dam if you don't know the number. The previous owners name would help too. Probably better to do this off list though. Email the info to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mike...
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear mike, me too. i am waiting to get two sets of registration papers on my two boys. how long does it take? who do i check with (besides the sellers) to see if it has been transfered etc. thanks, denise delgado - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 7:56 PM Subject: Mike... This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, I tried to reply just to your email but couldn't get it to work, it kept bouncing. I may have screwed it up. I want to do 2 things; join NFHR and transfer Baldur into my name. If I do both transactions at the same time will I be able to pay the cheaper rate for transfer of papers? ALSO, the people I bought him from never transferred him into their name, so he is still under the name of the person they bought him from. Can I sign skip a transfer or do I need 2 transfer forms and will I have have to pay 2 fees (like with AMHA)? I was reading the transfer form in the paperwork given to me and it's clear as to what I need if transfer is direct and it doesn't have the required fees on it. I also checked the website and couldn't find a great deal of info on transferring. Any help is appreciated. Kate Greiner
Mike...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, I tried to reply just to your email but couldn't get it to work, it kept bouncing. I may have screwed it up. I want to do 2 things; join NFHR and transfer Baldur into my name. If I do both transactions at the same time will I be able to pay the cheaper rate for transfer of papers? ALSO, the people I bought him from never transferred him into their name, so he is still under the name of the person they bought him from. Can I sign skip a transfer or do I need 2 transfer forms and will I have have to pay 2 fees (like with AMHA)? I was reading the transfer form in the paperwork given to me and it's clear as to what I need if transfer is direct and it doesn't have the required fees on it. I also checked the website and couldn't find a great deal of info on transferring. Any help is appreciated. Kate Greiner
Re: Mike, mike, mike...
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:36 AM 7/7/99 -0500, you wrote: Is that clicker training for the Fjords or the Neighbors??? ;-) Hi Mike The neighbors of course! :o) Ingrid Ha ha, I thought it might be!!! ;-)
Mike, mike, mike...
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been working with clicker training too...same sort of principle. Ingrid in Ohio :o) Is that clicker training for the Fjords or the Neighbors??? ;-) Hi Mike The neighbors of course! :o) Ingrid
Re: Mike May
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:58 PM 6/17/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Mike, my husband used to know a guy named Mike May who was an attorney and ex deputy sheriff, who lived in Southern Cal. just had to ask for my husband if it might be you. N. No lawyer blood here I am afraid. ;-) Mike and Michele Noonan ps Opal is getting closer to foaling! Good Luck! Mike
Mike May
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Mike, my husband used to know a guy named Mike May who was an attorney and ex deputy sheriff, who lived in Southern Cal. just had to ask for my husband if it might be you. Mike and Michele Noonan ps Opal is getting closer to foaling!
Re: Mike, Good-One ! Thanks, weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! Oh Mike, that was rich..thought I was laughing till I got to Wind Puffs , then couldnt breathe. As a Stallion Owner, and a Back Yard Breeder, Im glad that we can laugh at ourselves. Had this one sent to me just today, first part about Husbands, second part about Horses, all pretty funny. GOOD THINGS ABOUT HUSBANDS: 1. Husbands are less expensive to shoe. 2. Feeding a husband doesn't require anything that even mildly compares with the hassle of putting up hay. 3. A lame husband can still work. 4. A husband with a bellyache doesn't have to be walked. 5. Husbands don't try to scratch their heads on your back. 6. They're better able to understand puns. 7. If they're playing hard to catch you *may* be able to run them down on foot. 8. They know their name. 9. They pay their own bills. 10. They apologize when they step on your toes. 11. No saddle fitting problems. 12. They seldom refuse to get in the vehicle. 13. They don't panic, yelling and running all through the house when you leave them alone. (unless you left the kids too) 14. For a nominal fee you can hire someone else to clip them. 15. They don't like the lady next door just as well as you just because she fed him 3 days straight. THE HORSE'S ADVANTAGE: 1. If they don't work out you can sell them. 2. They don't come with in-laws. 3. You don't have to worry about your children looking like them. 4. You never have to iron their saddle pads. 5. If you get too fat for one you can shop for a bigger one. 6. They smell good when they sweat. 7. You can repair their clothes with duct tape. 8. It's possible to keep them from jumping the fence. 9. You can force them to stay in good physical condition...with a whip if necessary. 10. They don't want their turn at the computer. 11. They turn white with age, but not bald. 12. They've never *heard* of PMS. 13. They learn to accept restraint. 14. They love to go trail riding. 15. They don't care what you look like, as long as you have a carrot. * Well, thats my only wisdom for today, and wanted to thank everyone who came to Fjord Chat the last two weeks, Steve Karen Betsy Donna PAV Aussie ( Jackie ) Fred Bernie Louanna Cathy GAL Pam Amanda Dave Mark, and ME ! and JOEL* Thanks for the note as to why you couldnt attend. Ive been meaning to get back.please update your 'puter system immediately and join us next week. Bye now , Lisa Pedersen from sunny, warm, breezy Norco, 75 today. PAV FJORDS A HREF=http://www.petsandvets.com/;PETS AND VETS/A A HREF=http://volano1.suresite.com/petsvets/vcclient/horsechat.html;HORSE CHAT ROOM/A
Re: Mike
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:55 PM 12/23/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, I don't envy you trying to pass a stone but keep drinking those liquids and maybe you'll have some luck! Everyone told me (this is when I was 22!) that if I could bare the pain of kidney stones, I could make it through child birth! I've since made it through 2 births and I think the kidney stones were worse --- at least I got a beautiful baby girl and boy out of the deal! Good luck. Well this is my third attempt at the birthing of a kidney stone. I still haven't got anything to show for them though. I'm still drinking... feel like I am going to drown actually... Mike
Re: Mike
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Glad to hear you are still on your feet Mike, whew, worse than childbirth and taking more time. Don't forget to drink lots of liquids, any kind, especially Christmas cheers. Oops guess it would not mix with pain pills. Well lots of luck. Jean Gayle This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:35 PM 12/22/98 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Has anyone heard how Mike is doing with his pain etc.? For those that don't know, I am trying to give birth to a kidney stone. That is why I haven't had a lot to say. I have been trying since Saturday now. It is getting rather old at this point. I was in the hospital for Monday evening for it. They did a CT Scan and found it but said it was almost out of the kidney so it shouldn't be long now. HA, here it is Wed and I am still waiting for it. Hopefully soon now. Mike Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Mike
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:35 PM 12/22/98 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Has anyone heard how Mike is doing with his pain etc.? For those that don't know, I am trying to give birth to a kidney stone. That is why I haven't had a lot to say. I have been trying since Saturday now. It is getting rather old at this point. I was in the hospital for Monday evening for it. They did a CT Scan and found it but said it was almost out of the kidney so it shouldn't be long now. HA, here it is Wed and I am still waiting for it. Hopefully soon now. Mike
Re: Unusually fun, Mike May ! Chat link
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-11-29 05:56:11 EST, you write: Look to our example of Mike May, a man who has worked very hard for the breed and only owns one Fjord. I don't think he is an unusual Fjord for fun person. Hello List!Been suffering with a nasty cold all week, along with the root canal from hell. but feeling alive and better this morning! Even drove a pair yesterday ! I actually think its easier to drive a pair, as my mare was buzzed up, on and off, but dear Kaiser babysat her, and where could she go??? Couldnt resist this one, Mike Unusual YEP! Fun??? VERY! see you all at the chat. Lisa Pedersen A HREF=http://www.petsandvets.com/index.html;PETS AND VETS/A
expenses for evaluators-Mike May
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from Susan Heyvaert, MN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response to Mike May: Hi all! I'm new to this list so I thought I'd introduce myself and comment on the question whether judges are paid expenses to become evaluators. My family lives on 5 acres in a suburb of the Twin Cities in Minnesota. On Thanksgiving Day, it reached 67 degrees!!! It isn't always frigid here! Today, I took my Fjord, BDF Majordomo, on a ride down the road and to our arena, with my husband who was riding our Quarter Horse mare, Spicy. Major is only 3 and has had 5 months under saddle training. He still has a ways to go but generally, is a delight to ride. Even his canter, is pleasurable -- feels like a rocking horse! We would have gone for a drive but my cart is getting a much needed addition in the way of springs under the seat. My back just couldn't take the bumpy rides anymore. Hopefully, the modification will work and we'll be back in business with the sleigh runners on soon! That is, if it ever snows! Major (sorry, I just can't stand the name Majordomo), has a content life here, paddocked with a 26 year-old Arabian who bosses him around like there's no tomorrow. Pretty funny sight to see this petite Arab herding Major all over the place. Of course, at feeding time, we have to take the old guy out for his Senior Feed or Major would eat every speck! It still amazes me how fast he can go through a flake of hay. Sorry, I'm rambling . . . Regarding the comment by Mike May on whether or not judges are offered payment for their expenses to train to become a Fjord evaluator I was talking with Phil Callahan at a show this summer, talking Fjords, of course. He said that he'd been called to go somewhere (I don't remember if it was Europe, or wherever) to train to be an evaluator. I specifically asked him if they were offering to pay his expenses and was shocked to hear him say, no. Why would any judge want to spend their valuable time to train to be an evaluator when their schedules are already so booked?? This is a person who has a sterling reputation in this area for being a fair judge... the type that would be excellent as an evaluator. If some of you don't know Phil, he is a WSCA judge in the Minnesota area, who judges a minimum of 2-3 shows weekly throughout show season. He judged the Blue Earth Fjord Show in 1997. He has a special place in his heart for Fjords!! For what it's worth, I think the only way we will draw the caliber people needed to be evaluators, is to pay their expenses, at least, in part. Susan Heyvaert
Mike
This message is from: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote it as a Question not saying I wanted to screw it up ! This is why we need a rule book that every New member would get know it is a rule ( a good one by the way.) Where is it written ? Or is it a rule we have to ask about then get an answer like' WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SCREW IT UP'?!! shame on you this time.(Mike) We are not new on Breeding horses nor did we breed out of the breed we dont intend to do so now. A QUESTION IS SEEKING THE RIGHT ANSWER.I am glad I did I hope others will help in pushing the BOD to put the rules on paper so we will all know CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS A PURE BREED By the way I believe someone is breeding outside the breed (They can.t all come from Canada ) As we have come across many that are not Reg. Friend ? Tillie Have you heard this one Joe needed to board his horse for a couple of months while he went on the road, so he went to see Farmer Jones. Jones said 'I charge $50 a week, and I keep the manure. Joe said that was too much money, so Jones suggested he try Farmer Smith. Smith said 'I charge $40 a week, and I keep the manure. Joe said that was still too much, so Smith told him to check with Farmer Brown down the road. Joe went to see Farmer Brown, who said he would keep him for $5 a week. Joe was understandably pleased with this price, so, he offered, 'I suppose you will want to keep the manure.' 'Feller,' drawled Farmer Brown, 'At $5 a week, there ain't gonna be none.' Bud Tillie Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Mike
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:48 AM 10/22/98 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote it as a Question not saying I wanted to screw it up ! This is why we need a rule book that every New member would get know it is a rule ( a good one by the way.) Where is it written ? Or is it a rule we have to ask about then get an answer like' WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SCREW IT UP'?!! shame on you this time.(Mike) Sorry if I came on strong Tillie. This is one area that is really sensitive to me. These horses are so good the way they are I don't think they can be improved upon. Yes people have tried. No they haven't made any better horses or mules for that matter. So I am sorry if you took offense to my reply but keeping the breed pure is one of the NFHR's Prime Directives so to speak. We are not new on Breeding horses nor did we breed out of the breed we dont intend to do so now. A QUESTION IS SEEKING THE RIGHT ANSWER.I am glad I did I hope others will help in pushing the BOD to put the rules on paper so we will all know CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS A PURE BREED Good. By the way I believe someone is breeding outside the breed (They can.t all come from Canada ) As we have come across many that are not Reg. Oh I know there are people out there that are cross breeding. I am not that naive. They just won't get registered with us. That is one of the reason we went to DNA typing parentage verifications of all horses BEFORE they are registered. (except geldings) Friend ? Tillie Sure we are. I don't get mad that easy. ;-) Have you heard this one Cute one Tillie == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Dressage Test from Mike May
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:21 PM 10/21/98 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Doug Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tinkerbell here - As a professional trainer, Mike, I feel the need to point out a glaring omission in your test. You left out the canter depart, a movement perfected by my esteemed student, Peg Knutsen. For those of you not familiar with this movement, the horse executes an abrupt halt from a free canter. This downward transition on the part of the horse, results in a sudden departure on the part of the rider. I prefer to call it a headplant. ( Fortunately, Peg always wears her helmet.) I also would like to make it clear that this unique movement is not in my instructor's repertoire. Personally, I suspect these creative liberties taken merely reflect Peg and Silka's collective opinion of my instructions. I could put some pictures of these new movements on the web site if you have some! ;-)
Fwd: Re: Mike May's comments, NFHR approved judges
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] More from the Fjord List Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:35:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Subject: Re: Mike May's comments, NFHR approved judges Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Mike, Concerning your response to my comments re: regions, rulebooks, etc. I would just note, about Brian Jacobsen getting lonely, that I think the regions need to be set up now or soon, even though the geographical disribution of Fjords might now be uneven. There doesn't need to be a show in a particular region if it can't be financially justified, and there realistically couldn't be because there wouldn't be anyone to put it on (or Brian could put it on, enter it, and win everything--- hah!). But if the structure is set up ahead of time, then it is in place and there's somewhere to go when there are enough horses to justify a show. Otherwise, we'll end up with a lot of groups like the PNWFPG, Fjordings West, etc. that have a vague region they're covering and very different ideas of what they're doing. The reasons I see for NFHR control of shows is not financial in terms of helping the show, other than offering a blanket insurance policy, but more professionalism and consistency. Second, I am aware of the NFHR rules for the evaluations. Those rules clearly disallow a snaffle bit on an older horse shown Western, whether in a GREEN class or not. But, to my mind, those rules have a lot of holes and problems and I've written a 3-page letter to the Evaluation Committee concerning them -- for example, was the Baucher snaffle on one horse legal or not? why does Western use AHSA rules and English use no standard rules at all? was the kicking strap illegal -- I know you had to make a judgement call, and don't disagree with it, but my ADS technical rep out here says there's absolutely no problem with a kicking strap in any ADS competition and I didn't see a problem with one there. Nor was it specifically included or excluded or mentioned in the rules. Someone complained...I think if we had a rulebook, or had officially adopted a set of rules, we wouldn't have had that problem. Finally, someone asked about how we get NFHR approved judges. First of all, what exactly is the point of having NFHR approved judges if we don't have NFHR approved shows? There doesn't have to be an NFHR approved judge at a Fjord show. Second, it is my understanding that, at the moment, that approval doesn't mean much. It just means that they have been asked by the Registry if they wanted a Fjord judging card, that they have to be card by another breed, that they have to have judged a major breed show (not Fjord) recently, and that they have to attend equine/judging educational clinics in the last year or so. I know that the Board is working on a judging rulebook, but there isn't yet even an official, final breed standard and I am under the opinion that the judges don't need to know anything about our breed. I know that 2 years ago I showed under an NFHR approved judge who was a very good judge as AHSA type judges go, but had never judged Fjords before, nor am I positive that she had seen one in person before. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's my understanding per a couple of BOD members. Thanks for listening. Becky Vorpagel Jont Creek Acres
Re: Mike May's comments, NFHR approved judges
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:35 PM 9/26/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Mike, Concerning your response to my comments re: regions, rulebooks, etc. I would just note, about Brian Jacobsen getting lonely, that I think the regions need to be set up now or soon, even though the geographical disribution of Fjords might now be uneven. There doesn't need to be a show in a particular region if it can't be financially justified, and there realistically couldn't be because there wouldn't be anyone to put it on (or Brian could put it on, enter it, and win everything--- hah!). But if the structure is set up ahead of time, then it is in place and there's somewhere to go when there are enough horses to justify a show. Otherwise, we'll end up with a lot of groups like the PNWFPG, Fjordings West, etc. that have a vague region they're covering and very different ideas of what they're doing. The reasons I see for NFHR control of shows is not financial in terms of helping the show, other than offering a blanket insurance policy, but more professionalism and consistency. It probably isn't a bad idea to form the regions now. The only thing I worry about is that possibly people will feel they have been excluded from a particular group because of the Geographical lines. Second, I am aware of the NFHR rules for the evaluations. Those rules clearly disallow a snaffle bit on an older horse shown Western, whether in a GREEN class or not. But, to my mind, those rules have a lot of holes and problems and I've written a 3-page letter to the Evaluation Committee concerning them -- for example, was the Baucher snaffle on one horse legal or not? why does Western use AHSA rules and English use no standard rules at all? was the kicking strap illegal -- I know you had to make a judgement call, and don't disagree with it, but my ADS technical rep out here says there's absolutely no problem with a kicking strap in any ADS competition and I didn't see a problem with one there. Nor was it specifically included or excluded or mentioned in the rules. Someone complained...I think if we had a rulebook, or had officially adopted a set of rules, we wouldn't have had that problem. As far as I know that Rule book has been adopted as the rules for the evaluations. I agree there are a lot of holes in it. It isn't consistant from one disipline to the next. In short - It isn't finished yet. The whole program is still in need of some tweaking. Finally, someone asked about how we get NFHR approved judges. First of all, what exactly is the point of having NFHR approved judges if we don't have NFHR approved shows? There doesn't have to be an NFHR approved judge at a Fjord show. Second, it is my understanding that, at the moment, that approval doesn't mean much. It just means that they have been asked by the Registry if they wanted a Fjord judging card, that they have to be card by another breed, that they have to have judged a major breed show (not Fjord) recently, and that they have to attend equine/judging educational clinics in the last year or so. I know that the Board is working on a judging rulebook, but there isn't yet even an official, final breed standard and I am under the opinion that the judges don't need to know anything about our breed. I know that 2 years ago I showed under an NFHR approved judge who was a very good judge as AHSA type judges go, but had never judged Fjords before, nor am I positive that she had seen one in person before. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's my understanding per a couple of BOD members. Well I think Roger Cabic is on the list now so I am going to let him answer the Judges questions. He is the chairperson of the Judges Committee. By the way as of the last BOD meeting 9/23/98 we DO have an approved final Breed Standard. Now that it is finished the Judges Rule Book will also be finished. It was on hold due to the changes being made to the breed standard. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mike May's comments, NFHR approved judges
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Mike, Concerning your response to my comments re: regions, rulebooks, etc. I would just note, about Brian Jacobsen getting lonely, that I think the regions need to be set up now or soon, even though the geographical disribution of Fjords might now be uneven. There doesn't need to be a show in a particular region if it can't be financially justified, and there realistically couldn't be because there wouldn't be anyone to put it on (or Brian could put it on, enter it, and win everything--- hah!). But if the structure is set up ahead of time, then it is in place and there's somewhere to go when there are enough horses to justify a show. Otherwise, we'll end up with a lot of groups like the PNWFPG, Fjordings West, etc. that have a vague region they're covering and very different ideas of what they're doing. The reasons I see for NFHR control of shows is not financial in terms of helping the show, other than offering a blanket insurance policy, but more professionalism and consistency. Second, I am aware of the NFHR rules for the evaluations. Those rules clearly disallow a snaffle bit on an older horse shown Western, whether in a GREEN class or not. But, to my mind, those rules have a lot of holes and problems and I've written a 3-page letter to the Evaluation Committee concerning them -- for example, was the Baucher snaffle on one horse legal or not? why does Western use AHSA rules and English use no standard rules at all? was the kicking strap illegal -- I know you had to make a judgement call, and don't disagree with it, but my ADS technical rep out here says there's absolutely no problem with a kicking strap in any ADS competition and I didn't see a problem with one there. Nor was it specifically included or excluded or mentioned in the rules. Someone complained...I think if we had a rulebook, or had officially adopted a set of rules, we wouldn't have had that problem. Finally, someone asked about how we get NFHR approved judges. First of all, what exactly is the point of having NFHR approved judges if we don't have NFHR approved shows? There doesn't have to be an NFHR approved judge at a Fjord show. Second, it is my understanding that, at the moment, that approval doesn't mean much. It just means that they have been asked by the Registry if they wanted a Fjord judging card, that they have to be card by another breed, that they have to have judged a major breed show (not Fjord) recently, and that they have to attend equine/judging educational clinics in the last year or so. I know that the Board is working on a judging rulebook, but there isn't yet even an official, final breed standard and I am under the opinion that the judges don't need to know anything about our breed. I know that 2 years ago I showed under an NFHR approved judge who was a very good judge as AHSA type judges go, but had never judged Fjords before, nor am I positive that she had seen one in person before. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's my understanding per a couple of BOD members. Thanks for listening. Becky Vorpagel Jont Creek Acres
