Re: My 2 cents on Stumbling

1999-05-06 Thread Mary Thurman
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



 Carol,

I also am amazed that you have never seen a Fjordhorse that stumbles
with a rider.  I saw it several times at the Libby show last year -
nothing spectacular, just a caught toe here and there.  I must agree
though that most do not stumble - I always thought that Line stumbled
because of her age, her constant pregnancy, and her HUGE feet.  She
even does it running around the field being silly.  She never falls,
just catches her toes and then catches her balance by nodding her head.
 The rest of our Fjords did not stumble, except when heavy with foal -
the worst offender being this old mare's daughter who also has HUGE
feet.  That was until we started using one of our geldings.  For some
reason he has trouble paying attention to where his feet are, so he
stumbles.  If you keep his attention, he doesn't stumble.  At Libby
last year he did not stumble even once the whole four days - but he was
also wide awake most of the time due to all the new experiences.  With
him it seems to be boredom, but he will stumble.  It seems to be
improving as he gets older, so may also have to do with him learning to
control his rather large (but not draft-like) frame.  He is long
legged, long lean bodied, and has flat rather than chunky muscles.  If
he ever gets all his feet together, he will be magnificent - we are
working on that now.

Mary
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Re: My 2 cents on Stumbling

1999-05-05 Thread Jean Gayle
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Okay Carol then how do you explain the tripping, falling and stumbling of so
many fjords.  And yes I also do not want to think it is a "fjord thing"  but
it happens.  Jean Gayle Aberdeen, Wa.
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From: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: My 2 cents on Stumbling


>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur  Rivoire)
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>Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -
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>We've been raising and training Fjords for going on twenty years.  We've
>imported over 100 Fjords, many of them adult horses that we've put in
>immediate work and competition riding and driving.  I've been to many big
>shows in Holland.  Some of them had 600 Fjords showing, and I never saw
>even one of those horses stumbling, much less falling down with a rider, or
>hitched to a carriage. We've trained a lot of Fjordhorses for clients.  >



Re: My 2 cents on Stumbling

1999-05-05 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur  Rivoire)



Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -

We've been raising and training Fjords for going on twenty years.  We've
imported over 100 Fjords, many of them adult horses that we've put in
immediate work and competition riding and driving.  I've been to many big
shows in Holland.  Some of them had 600 Fjords showing, and I never saw
even one of those horses stumbling, much less falling down with a rider, or
hitched to a carriage. We've trained a lot of Fjordhorses for clients.  We
almost always train on our cross-country courses, which are hills and
natural, uneven terrain.  Even our ring is fairly rough -- pockmarked with
use.  I've got to say that in all this time with all these Fjords, we've
NEVER had a horse go down on us.  And, frankly, I've rarely seen one of our
riding horses stumble. And the same goes for driving.

I just don't understand all this talk of stumbling.  And I absolutely do
not agree that it is "a Fjord thing."  From my years of experience, I can
say Fjords are as sure-footed as any other breed.  ---  Actually, as horses
bred for the mountains of west coast Norway, I've always heard that one of
their proclaimed breed characteristics is - surefootedness.

Months ago, there was a long discussion on the Digest about the difficulty
many Fjords have in cantering.  At that time, I said that the Fjords I'm
familiar with do not have difficulty with the canter.  I suggested that it
might be the heavier types that find the canter difficult because of being
physically heavier in the forehand.  ---  Several people took exception to
that.  

As a promoter of this wonderful, versatile breed, I really don't like
reading that it's a "Fjord thing" to stumble, fall down, and go head over
heels with a rider.  I don't like it because I don't believe for a minute
that it is a breed characteristic.

Well . . . my 2 cents worth. 

Best Regards,  Carol Rivoire 
Carol and Arthur Rivoire
Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II
R.R. 7 Pomquet
Antigonish County
Nova Scotia
B2G 2L4
902 386 2304
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf