Re: Breeder Evaluators

1998-12-01 Thread BKFJORDS
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Mike,  
Well, I think you hit the nail right on the head!!!
Bernadine Karns
Nottawa Crossing Fjords
Marshall, Michigan
USA



RE: Breeder Evaluators

1998-12-01 Thread Mike May
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 06:06 AM 11/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Ursula is right about the "checks and balances". 
>In Germany, the competition amongst the various breeders is fierce.
>That is probably the reason why they "blind" judge the young foals - 
>that is, not knowing breeder or stallion. 


And this is just one reason not to use breeders to evaluate our horses.  It
is also a reason why we need more evaluators that are rotated more
frequently so they do not become so familiar with certain breeders.  There
needs to be a certain amount of distance between the evaluators and the
owners/breeders I think.  I for one think it would present a very
uncomfortable situation to be having my horse evaluated by a close friend
or by a unfriendly competitor of mine.  

My opinion - NOT the NFHR's.



RE: Breeder Evaluators

1998-11-26 Thread Werner, Kristine
This message is from: "Werner, Kristine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ursula is right about the "checks and balances". 
In Germany, the competition amongst the various breeders is fierce.
That is probably the reason why they "blind" judge the young foals - 
that is, not knowing breeder or stallion. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ursula Jensen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 26. November 1998 03:42
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Breeder Evaluators
>
> This message is from: Ursula Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hi List: 
>
> I can understand that some of you are concerned that Breeder
> Evaluators may
> have a biased viewpoint or possibly favor their own bloodlines etc.
> but
> consider this. Who else is going to be the most concerned about
> maintaining
> Breed Standards and especially Breed Types? Will a professional Judge
> who
> has had the most experience with  Quarter Horses , Arabs or Morgan
> have
> his/her eye trained with those Breeds in mind? Breeder Evaluators
> could
> provide this balance and vis versa.
>  The Eval. Comm. did not pull this idea of Breeder Evaluator out of
> thin air.
> The Norwegian &  Dutch Judges and breeds like the  Andalusian etc.
> all have
> Breeder Evaluators. These people have the most interest and the most
> to lose
> if the Breed standards go awry so why not involve them in the process.
> There has been a tremendous amount of consideration and research given
> to
> the proposed Evaluation Leadership Proposal. A number of checks and
> balances
> have been put in place to address the aforementioned concerns about
> bias.
> There will always be a combination of Breeder Evaluators and
> Professional
> Judge Evaluators at every Evaluation. This hopefully will balance any
> perceived biases on either sides. 
> The Breeder judges will be exposed to a very thorough training program
> including a general Judging Certificate , learner Judging,
> workshops,clinics
> and esposure  to hundreds of FJords both here and abroad. The list
> goes on.
>  More importantly, persons interested in becoming Breeder Judges will
> be
> scrutinized and selected by the BOD and our Senior Evaluators  before
> their
> training  begins. If, after all the screening and training a
> particular
> Breeder Judge is perceived to be biased what's stopping the NFHR from
> excluding this person from Evaluating. An extreme measure, yes, but an
> option. The ultimate power is in the hands of the BOD, right?
> I think we need to have a bit more confidence in ourselves as able and
> competent participants in this process. We need to learn from the
> masters
> and then apply the knowledge to the NOrth AMerican Evaluation Program,
> AND
> give people a bit of credit for professionalism, competence and
> integrity.
> It is absolutely imperative that a leadership program for training
> Evaluators is in place along with our North AMerican Evaluation
> Program.
> They go hand in hand. We need a constant but highly selective group of
> people going thru this program to ensure that a constant supply of
> learner
> and senior Evaluators will be available in the future.We need to be
> farsighted on this issue. Our present Senior Evaluators are competent
> people
> with great insight & experiencethey are supportive of this process
> and
> with the help of our European Masters, this program has the potential
> to
> stand up to International scrutiny.
> Give it some more thought.
>
> Ursula Jensen
> Trinity Fjords.
>
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>
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