RE: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-15 Thread Frederick J Pack
This message is from: Frederick J Pack friendlyf...@hughes.net

Valerie, did you get my private message about the LaminaSaver product you
asked privately about??
I sent it with High importance and a return receipt and have heard nothing
back.

My message may be in your spam folder.

Fred




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brass-ring-f...@juno.com
 Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a horse
with laminitis that overnight turned into a sinker. 

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Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-07 Thread Genie Dethloff

This message is from: Genie Dethloff gdp...@comcast.net

Hi Valerie,

I'm so sorry you are having such serious problems with Sydney. I know 
you love her a lot and it must have been hard to watch this progress 
over the last few months even while giving her the best of care.  I 
hope she will recover but if not that she can be kept comfortable.


Is she your only riding horse now at home?
--
Genie Dethloff
Killingworth, Connecticut

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RE: Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-07 Thread plumg...@pon.net
This message is from: plumg...@pon.net plumg...@pon.net

Hi Valerie,

Join this group.  They will do everything they can to help you.  
ech...@yahoogroups.com   It may also pay to ask there where to join to get info 
on supplements...things to do to help.

I feel so bad that this happened.  These people can often help.

Gail

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Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-07 Thread Cherie Mascis

This message is from: Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net

I've just finished rehabbing my boss's Paso Fino who had a pretty severe 
rotation in all four feet and then abscessed in both front feet.  She is now 
sound in the pasture and arena and rides fine with Renegade boots on rockier 
trails.


I think foundered horses heal so much quicker going into padded boots rather 
than shoes for rehab.


Some of the people of barefoothorsecare in yahoo groups have had experience 
and success with sinkers and you might get more detailed help.


Cherie 


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Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-07 Thread jen frame
This message is from: jen frame jenfra...@gmail.com

I was just going to mention Renegade boots, and then some one else did. Call
Kirt at Renegade boots, and tell him what is going on. He will talk you
through how to heal her foot so you don't have to put her down. He is
amazing.  You'd be surprised at how many vets and farriers reccomend putting
down foundered horses with the coffin bone piercing through the sole, and
how many of these horses get rehabbed and live happy healthy pain free lives
when a Natural Hoofcare specialist helps them out.I wish you and your mare
the best. I totally feel for you,
Jen (whose Fjord LOVES her Renegade boots!)

On 5/7/09, Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 This message is from: Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net

 I've just finished rehabbing my boss's Paso Fino who had a pretty severe
 rotation in all four feet and then abscessed in both front feet.  She is now
 sound in the pasture and arena and rides fine with Renegade boots on rockier
 trails.

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Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-07 Thread Beth Pulsifer

This message is from: Beth Pulsifer magicm...@roadrunner.com

The note from Jen frame is interesting... I looked up the renegade boots... 
They really look good to me.  I'd love to get some for Liz to prevent any 
problems..(Cavella) I have some boots for her that I use as I don't put 
shoes on her. They work okay but are cumbersome and hard to put on with my 
arthritic hands. Wonder if the guy she mentioned could help if your vets 
would be willing to talk and share information. Sometimess that's touchy 
between vets.. and the extent of damage already done may make a difference 
too.
- Original Message - 
From: brass-ring-f...@juno.com

To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: gone beyond the grazing muzzle



This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com

Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a horse
with laminitis that overnight turned into a sinker. That's the founder
that does not rotate but sinks straight down, sometimes the bone pierces
the sole, though not in this case, yet.
   The vet/farrier was out here for 2 hours this morning. Handy to
have him in the practice. She did not require sedating, though the older
vet did that on Monday to do the xrays. This guy put on a custom made bar
shoe on her left foot to support it, then made a bar hospital shoe for
the right, with play-do and silicone in it. It has a metal plate that
removes from the bottom to look at the sole without taking the whole shoe
off, and you can also add medicines in there. That would be if her bone
penetrates the sole.
   Both my regular farrier and both vets say if that happens I might
as well give up, and they seem to think it is inevitable. Sad. At least
this way I can enjoy her now and if it comes to that I will have had time
to prepare (whatever that means). It is just so hard to see this big
hulking horse with gleaming summer coat and bright eyes and beautiful
tail to the floor and all that is wrong with her is one stupid foot.
  She is not in a lot of pain, at least it is controlled with the
bute and banamine, she moves around her sand paddock and wonders why she
can't graze.
   Valerie and poor Sydney
   Columbia, CT

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Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle

2009-05-07 Thread Kristen L. Andersen

This message is from: Kristen L. Andersen w6...@me.com

Watching Pete Ramey's DVDs on natural hoof care has completely changed  
how I think of the hoof, It is amazing what he has done with horses  
who would otherwise be though of as a lost cause! Have hope, there are  
some wonderful natural hoofcare practitioners out there helping horses  
who have the same problem as your girl. Pete's site is:


http://www.hoofrehab.com/

The trimmer I use was trained by Pete and has made a world of  
difference with my boy's feet. Where are you located? I can ask my guy  
if he has any recommendations for resources in your area.


Cheers,

-Kristen




On May 7, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Beth Pulsifer wrote:


This message is from: Beth Pulsifer magicm...@roadrunner.com

The note from Jen frame is interesting... I looked up the renegade  
boots... They really look good to me.  I'd love to get some for Liz  
to prevent any problems..(Cavella) I have some boots for her that I  
use as I don't put shoes on her. They work okay but are cumbersome  
and hard to put on with my arthritic hands. Wonder if the guy she  
mentioned could help if your vets would be willing to talk and share  
information. Sometimess that's touchy between vets.. and the extent  
of damage already done may make a difference too.

- Original Message - From: brass-ring-f...@juno.com
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: gone beyond the grazing muzzle



This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com

Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a  
horse
with laminitis that overnight turned into a sinker. That's the  
founder
that does not rotate but sinks straight down, sometimes the bone  
pierces

the sole, though not in this case, yet.
  The vet/farrier was out here for 2 hours this morning. Handy to
have him in the practice. She did not require sedating, though the  
older
vet did that on Monday to do the xrays. This guy put on a custom  
made bar
shoe on her left foot to support it, then made a bar hospital shoe  
for

the right, with play-do and silicone in it. It has a metal plate that
removes from the bottom to look at the sole without taking the  
whole shoe
off, and you can also add medicines in there. That would be if her  
bone

penetrates the sole.
  Both my regular farrier and both vets say if that happens I  
might
as well give up, and they seem to think it is inevitable. Sad. At  
least
this way I can enjoy her now and if it comes to that I will have  
had time

to prepare (whatever that means). It is just so hard to see this big
hulking horse with gleaming summer coat and bright eyes and beautiful
tail to the floor and all that is wrong with her is one stupid foot.
 She is not in a lot of pain, at least it is controlled with the
bute and banamine, she moves around her sand paddock and wonders  
why she

can't graze.
  Valerie and poor Sydney
  Columbia, CT

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