RE: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: Frederick J Pack friendlyf...@hughes.net Valerie, did you get my private message about the LaminaSaver product you asked privately about?? I sent it with High importance and a return receipt and have heard nothing back. My message may be in your spam folder. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 brass-ring-f...@juno.com Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a horse with laminitis that overnight turned into a sinker. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: Genie Dethloff gdp...@comcast.net Hi Valerie, I'm so sorry you are having such serious problems with Sydney. I know you love her a lot and it must have been hard to watch this progress over the last few months even while giving her the best of care. I hope she will recover but if not that she can be kept comfortable. Is she your only riding horse now at home? -- Genie Dethloff Killingworth, Connecticut Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: plumg...@pon.net plumg...@pon.net Hi Valerie, Join this group. They will do everything they can to help you. ech...@yahoogroups.com It may also pay to ask there where to join to get info on supplements...things to do to help. I feel so bad that this happened. These people can often help. Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net I've just finished rehabbing my boss's Paso Fino who had a pretty severe rotation in all four feet and then abscessed in both front feet. She is now sound in the pasture and arena and rides fine with Renegade boots on rockier trails. I think foundered horses heal so much quicker going into padded boots rather than shoes for rehab. Some of the people of barefoothorsecare in yahoo groups have had experience and success with sinkers and you might get more detailed help. Cherie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: jen frame jenfra...@gmail.com I was just going to mention Renegade boots, and then some one else did. Call Kirt at Renegade boots, and tell him what is going on. He will talk you through how to heal her foot so you don't have to put her down. He is amazing. You'd be surprised at how many vets and farriers reccomend putting down foundered horses with the coffin bone piercing through the sole, and how many of these horses get rehabbed and live happy healthy pain free lives when a Natural Hoofcare specialist helps them out.I wish you and your mare the best. I totally feel for you, Jen (whose Fjord LOVES her Renegade boots!) On 5/7/09, Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net wrote: This message is from: Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net I've just finished rehabbing my boss's Paso Fino who had a pretty severe rotation in all four feet and then abscessed in both front feet. She is now sound in the pasture and arena and rides fine with Renegade boots on rockier trails. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: Beth Pulsifer magicm...@roadrunner.com The note from Jen frame is interesting... I looked up the renegade boots... They really look good to me. I'd love to get some for Liz to prevent any problems..(Cavella) I have some boots for her that I use as I don't put shoes on her. They work okay but are cumbersome and hard to put on with my arthritic hands. Wonder if the guy she mentioned could help if your vets would be willing to talk and share information. Sometimess that's touchy between vets.. and the extent of damage already done may make a difference too. - Original Message - From: brass-ring-f...@juno.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: gone beyond the grazing muzzle This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a horse with laminitis that overnight turned into a sinker. That's the founder that does not rotate but sinks straight down, sometimes the bone pierces the sole, though not in this case, yet. The vet/farrier was out here for 2 hours this morning. Handy to have him in the practice. She did not require sedating, though the older vet did that on Monday to do the xrays. This guy put on a custom made bar shoe on her left foot to support it, then made a bar hospital shoe for the right, with play-do and silicone in it. It has a metal plate that removes from the bottom to look at the sole without taking the whole shoe off, and you can also add medicines in there. That would be if her bone penetrates the sole. Both my regular farrier and both vets say if that happens I might as well give up, and they seem to think it is inevitable. Sad. At least this way I can enjoy her now and if it comes to that I will have had time to prepare (whatever that means). It is just so hard to see this big hulking horse with gleaming summer coat and bright eyes and beautiful tail to the floor and all that is wrong with her is one stupid foot. She is not in a lot of pain, at least it is controlled with the bute and banamine, she moves around her sand paddock and wonders why she can't graze. Valerie and poor Sydney Columbia, CT Click here for the best streaming video solutions on the web! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTE3AqIsJBnqxDKOIvHnUe5DH61UEmsjMBthLS7CszaJlcxuE6oDAU/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f 05:57:00 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: gone beyond the grazing muzzle
This message is from: Kristen L. Andersen w6...@me.com Watching Pete Ramey's DVDs on natural hoof care has completely changed how I think of the hoof, It is amazing what he has done with horses who would otherwise be though of as a lost cause! Have hope, there are some wonderful natural hoofcare practitioners out there helping horses who have the same problem as your girl. Pete's site is: http://www.hoofrehab.com/ The trimmer I use was trained by Pete and has made a world of difference with my boy's feet. Where are you located? I can ask my guy if he has any recommendations for resources in your area. Cheers, -Kristen On May 7, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Beth Pulsifer wrote: This message is from: Beth Pulsifer magicm...@roadrunner.com The note from Jen frame is interesting... I looked up the renegade boots... They really look good to me. I'd love to get some for Liz to prevent any problems..(Cavella) I have some boots for her that I use as I don't put shoes on her. They work okay but are cumbersome and hard to put on with my arthritic hands. Wonder if the guy she mentioned could help if your vets would be willing to talk and share information. Sometimess that's touchy between vets.. and the extent of damage already done may make a difference too. - Original Message - From: brass-ring-f...@juno.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: gone beyond the grazing muzzle This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com Just wanted to know if anyone out there has had experience with a horse with laminitis that overnight turned into a sinker. That's the founder that does not rotate but sinks straight down, sometimes the bone pierces the sole, though not in this case, yet. The vet/farrier was out here for 2 hours this morning. Handy to have him in the practice. She did not require sedating, though the older vet did that on Monday to do the xrays. This guy put on a custom made bar shoe on her left foot to support it, then made a bar hospital shoe for the right, with play-do and silicone in it. It has a metal plate that removes from the bottom to look at the sole without taking the whole shoe off, and you can also add medicines in there. That would be if her bone penetrates the sole. Both my regular farrier and both vets say if that happens I might as well give up, and they seem to think it is inevitable. Sad. At least this way I can enjoy her now and if it comes to that I will have had time to prepare (whatever that means). It is just so hard to see this big hulking horse with gleaming summer coat and bright eyes and beautiful tail to the floor and all that is wrong with her is one stupid foot. She is not in a lot of pain, at least it is controlled with the bute and banamine, she moves around her sand paddock and wonders why she can't graze. Valerie and poor Sydney Columbia, CT Click here for the best streaming video solutions on the web! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTE3AqIsJBnqxDKOIvHnUe5DH61UEmsjMBthLS7CszaJlcxuE6oDAU/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f 05:57:00 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f