Rabies vaccine
This message is from: Kathy Johnson ka...@relayhouse.com I live in MN and have vaccinated for rabies for the last 20 years. We live in the woods and have lots of critters around...possum, skunk, fox, coyote, deer, turkey. Just feel better to be safe than sorry. The shot is separate from other vaccines and have never had a reaction. I usually use Fort Dodge. Kathy Johnson Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com I think she is due for her rabies too. I will get it done ASAP. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net wrote: This message is from: Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net First of all, Beth M., thank you for vaccinating your mare! I can't believe, after all of the rabies exposure we had on the Front Range in Colorado this spring that your barn-mates have not had their horses vaccinated! Shari MacCallum's Fjord gelding, Starfire Finlay, contracted rabies from a presumably dead skunk that she found in her pasture. The horse was dead 3 weeks later and she, her entire family and at least 10 veterinarians/vet techs had to receive the prophylactic treatment (several thousand dollars just for her alone.) At least she is alive. He was in the prime of his life...they had performed in the Stock Show with us in January and in the Expo with us in March. She was having a blast with him until this happened. I do not blame Shari, for she did not know that her horses required annual rabies vaccinations in order to be protected. Finlay had been vaccinated two years prior and was due for re-vaccination when he was exposed. It could have just as easily been a horse or horses in my herd, as I had a rabid skunk on my property around the same time (in the vicinity of my paddocks and arena) that I captured and had tested. My dogs were exposed (they had been lightly sprayed but presumably were not bitten and were up to date on their vaccinations). Luckily, my horses were not but I couldn't be too sure. I was just lucky. We did re-boost the dogs and cats (recommended by my vet and the state veterinarian) and I vaccinated my entire herd that week, but I kept a very watchful eye for several weeks afterward for any unusual behavior/signs. I was very worried. It doesn't take a bite to transfer the disease. All it takes is exposure to saliva/blood/bodily fluids. This could be through open skin, etc. The best guess regarding Finlay's exposure is that he must have mouthed or nosed the skunk, as they could not find any puncture wounds on him anywhere. The skunk may have already been dead or dying, no one knows because Shari found it dead in her pasture. I ditto what Robin Churchill wrote...all of this would not have happened if her horse had been vaccinated this year. This is serious business. Don't think that, because we can vaccinate dogs and cats every few years, that you can vaccinate your horse the same way. Horses have to be vaccinated annually in order to be protected. It's very inexpensive if you give them yourself. Even if your vet has to give it in your area, the cost comparison between giving a vaccine and you receiving prophylactic treatment is nil. If your horse contracts it, it will die. We had rabid skunks and foxes all over our area this spring. There was report after report of skunks attacking dogs, cats, breaking into houses through windows (seriously!), fox and skunks chasing horses...seriously! Rabies has been moving towards the Front Range in Colorado for several years. Last year it was in eastern Colorado and eastern Adams County. Once we heard the first report of it being found west of I-25, this spring it was too late for Finlay. Such a sad deal! And we in our society have become so complacent that there were no reports in the local news until at least two months after Finlay died. The first news report I heard was on NPR national news! Not our local news. Unbelievable, since if you contract rabies, you die. End of story. I have told all of my friends that I know that it will be moving into their area...even those on the other side of the divide. It is just a matter of time. I have yet to see a problem with giving the vaccine to my horses, dogs or cats. So, those of you out there who are in the more arid areas, don't wait. You just never know when that rabid skunk, fox, possum, cat, bat, whatever...will end up on your property. Beth www.starfirefarm.com This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Lori Albrough l...@bluebirdlane.com On 10/13/13 3:50 PM, Main Email wrote: Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any recommendations? We vaccinate all of our horses annually for rabies. The vet needs to give it here, but that's OK with me, as I get the vet to give all my vaccinations. My core group of annual vaccines includes rabies, WNV, Eastern/Western Encephalitis, and Tetanus. We give these separately. I have never had a horse react to the rabies vaccine. One time one horse reacted to the EE/WEE/Tetanus shot. But the vaccine that I've had horses most often have a local reaction to is the Flu/Rhino, so I give that one only to horses who are going off farm and prefer to do it intra-nasal if possible. If IN is not possible then the vet gives some banamine at the time of injection hopefully to head off any pain/swelling. Lori -- Lori Albrough Bluebird Lane Fjords R.R.#3 Moorefield Ont Canada N0G 2K0 phone: 519-638-5598 email: l...@bluebirdlane.com http://www.bluebirdlane.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any recommendations? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.com On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net wrote: This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any recommendations? We have made rabies shots a regular part of our vaccination schedule for many years. We've never had any problems with adverse reactions. Since rabies outbreaks in wildlife are always a threat I don't believe it's worth taking a chance. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com i give them. Separately. No problems. I believe there was a reported case of horse rabies in California not so long ago. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net wrote: This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any recommendations? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com I am a pediatric infectious diseases specialist and I have always vaccinated all my horses for rabies every year with no problems. Horses can and do get rabies and it is a significant problem when a horse contracts rabies because many people can be exposed before it is determined the horse is infected, if it is determined at all. There has never been an actual documented case of rabies transmission from a horse to human but because rabies is essentially a fatal disease no one wants to take a chance and there is a first time for everything. If your horse contracts rabies, there is no treatment, the horse will die. If you or anyone else is exposed and that means exposed to the horses saliva, it doesn't have to actually bite you, then it will be recommended that you undergo post-exposure prophylaxis. Currently if you are not bitten, it consists of 1 injection of rabies immunoglobulin (if you are bitten, the immunoglobulin is injected in the tissue around the bite which patients love) and 4 injections of rabies vaccine given on days 0, 3, 7, and 14 after the exposure. This is very effective, but it is inconvenient and if your health department no longer provides it as ours here does not due to budget cuts, it is very expensive and I mean in thousands of dollars for this treatment if you do not have insurance or your insurance does not cover it. This past year in our county of Florida there were 2 cases of rabid horses and I was involved with one of them. We had to vaccinate 18 people who were exposed to that one horse. In my opinion, that was a total waste of health care resources when it could have all been avoided if the horse had been vaccinated because the rabies vaccine is safe and effective. Also, there was some mumbling about who was responsible for the fact that the horse was not vaccinated since some of the exposed persons incurred bills of $10 - 15,000 for the post-exposure prophylaxis, like they were considering consulting a lawyer. I don't know that that went anywhere, but keep in mind, people tend to be litigious in our country and even if it doesn't go anywhere, it is a significant pain and expense to be sued. The reason we don't have more rabies in humans in the US is because of the requirement for vaccination of dogs and cats, which is not the case in some developing countries. Any vaccine can cause a reaction but almost never is a vaccine going to kill your horse like rabies definitely will if he/she contracts it. I also know a relative of one of my former relatives by marriage who bought a draft mare somewhere around WV and the horse fell ill and ended up dying on the way to Ohio State with rabies. Same deal with the prophylaxis, everyone who came in contact with the horses saliva had to be vaccinated. Robin in Florida where the weather is cooling down somewhat and drying out. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com I give rabies shots Every year to Andy and J.J. They've never had any reaction and it sure beats the alternative! I feel it's worth every penny On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:06 PM, Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com i give them. Separately. No problems. I believe there was a reported case of horse rabies in California not so long ago. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net wrote: This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any recommendations? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com Thank you so much Robin for informing people on this dreaded disease... On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:45 PM, S K windyacre...@yahoo.com wrote: This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com I give rabies shots Every year to Andy and J.J.�They've never had any reaction and it sure beats the alternative!�I feel it's worth every penny On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:06 PM, Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com i give them.�Separately.�No problems.�I believe there was a reported case of horse rabies in California not so long ago. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net wrote: This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies.�We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Who else gives rabies shots?� Do yours have reactions?� Have any recommendations? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com What is the reasoning from the others to not vaccinate for rabies? Do they do other vaccines, such as west nile or encephalitis? If I was wanting / needing to skip vaccines it would not be rabies. Just not worth that risk. One of my fjord mares does sometimes swell up at the injection site but the last couple years she hasn't. She has a weaker immune system than her daughter, who's never had any kind of reaction. I, myself, had to go thru rabies injections after possible exposure from some feral kittens I attempted to rescue. It was not fun. And thank you, Robin, for the excellent information! -- Kathleen Prince kathl...@pookiebros.com Check out our blog! http://www.cassidyapril.com Pookie Bros. Pet Sitting Professional Pet Care In Your Home! http://www.pookiebros.com On Oct 13, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Main Email wrote: This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any recommendations? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Beth Sandy - Starfire Farm starfiref...@usa.net First of all, Beth M., thank you for vaccinating your mare! I can't believe, after all of the rabies exposure we had on the Front Range in Colorado this spring that your barn-mates have not had their horses vaccinated! Shari MacCallum's Fjord gelding, Starfire Finlay, contracted rabies from a presumably dead skunk that she found in her pasture. The horse was dead 3 weeks later and she, her entire family and at least 10 veterinarians/vet techs had to receive the prophylactic treatment (several thousand dollars just for her alone.) At least she is alive. He was in the prime of his life...they had performed in the Stock Show with us in January and in the Expo with us in March. She was having a blast with him until this happened. I do not blame Shari, for she did not know that her horses required annual rabies vaccinations in order to be protected. Finlay had been vaccinated two years prior and was due for re-vaccination when he was exposed. It could have just as easily been a horse or horses in my herd, as I had a rabid skunk on my property around the same time (in the vicinity of my paddocks and arena) that I captured and had tested. My dogs were exposed (they had been lightly sprayed but presumably were not bitten and were up to date on their vaccinations). Luckily, my horses were not but I couldn't be too sure. I was just lucky. We did re-boost the dogs and cats (recommended by my vet and the state veterinarian) and I vaccinated my entire herd that week, but I kept a very watchful eye for several weeks afterward for any unusual behavior/signs. I was very worried. It doesn't take a bite to transfer the disease. All it takes is exposure to saliva/blood/bodily fluids. This could be through open skin, etc. The best guess regarding Finlay's exposure is that he must have mouthed or nosed the skunk, as they could not find any puncture wounds on him anywhere. The skunk may have already been dead or dying, no one knows because Shari found it dead in her pasture. I ditto what Robin Churchill wrote...all of this would not have happened if her horse had been vaccinated this year. This is serious business. Don't think that, because we can vaccinate dogs and cats every few years, that you can vaccinate your horse the same way. Horses have to be vaccinated annually in order to be protected. It's very inexpensive if you give them yourself. Even if your vet has to give it in your area, the cost comparison between giving a vaccine and you receiving prophylactic treatment is nil. If your horse contracts it, it will die. We had rabid skunks and foxes all over our area this spring. There was report after report of skunks attacking dogs, cats, breaking into houses through windows (seriously!), fox and skunks chasing horses...seriously! Rabies has been moving towards the Front Range in Colorado for several years. Last year it was in eastern Colorado and eastern Adams County. Once we heard the first report of it being found west of I-25, this spring it was too late for Finlay. Such a sad deal! And we in our society have become so complacent that there were no reports in the local news until at least two months after Finlay died. The first news report I heard was on NPR national news! Not our local news. Unbelievable, since if you contract rabies, you die. End of story. I have told all of my friends that I know that it will be moving into their area...even those on the other side of the divide. It is just a matter of time. I have yet to see a problem with giving the vaccine to my horses, dogs or cats. So, those of you out there who are in the more arid areas, don't wait. You just never know when that rabid skunk, fox, possum, cat, bat, whatever...will end up on your property. Beth www.starfirefarm.com This message is from: Main Email divingduoandcor...@comcast.net I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with it... after scratching people. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
