Re: "The Law of Value" - as it applies to Fjordhorses

2003-12-09 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That is so well put, Carol.  I'm going to forward it
onto my husband who is having a hard time with that
concept where horses are concerned.  And it is true
with everything.  I can't tell you how many times I've
gone with something cheaper and ended up buying the
more expensive thing anyway because the cheaper item
was disappointing.  Now I'm out even more money!  We
bought a paint pony for $2800 for my 11 year old
daughter that was supposed to be well trained. Ha! 
The horse was quite overweight and seemed very docile.
 Once the weight came off the rearing started.  She is
now being retrained (more money) and may even have
back problems (more money).  I will not sell her to
some unsuspecting person, so I will not recoup my
money.  And even if I could I get so attached to
animals that it is hard to part.  I should have held
out for a well trained Fjord.  Heavy sigh...

Tamara

--- Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam
> Farm -
> 
> Some years ago, I happened on a quote called 'The
> Law of Value'
> 
>  "It is unwise to pay too much, but unwise to pay
> too little.  When you pay
> too much, you lose a little money, that is all. 
> When you pay too little,
> you sometimes lose everything because the thing you
> bought was incapable of
> doing the thing you bought it to do. . . . . "
>  - John Ruskin,
> English Philosopher
> 
>   1819 - 1900
> 
> I was  so impresed with this quote that I have it
> taped to my desk, and
> never forget it as we buy, sell, and take Fjords on
> consignment for people.
> 
>   I also remember "The Law" when we're buying
> things for the farm, and
> if I'm tempted to go for the "bargain", I remember
> the best example we've
> had of "The Law".  That was the Manure Spreader'
> costing $600 and supposed
> to be "perfect for the small family farm".  Hah! 
> The damn thing was totally
> useless.  The wheels buckled with the first load. 
> $600 lost, and back to
> spreading manure by hand.  --Not just money lost,
> but time and backbreaking
> labor . . .
> 
> After that, whenever we've had to buy a piece of
> equipment, we try to get
> the most heavy duty model available, and know the
> extra we're paying
> is money well spent.
> 
> Tonight as I talked to a recent customer, I was
> reminded of the   'Law of
> Value' quote.  This lady recently bought an older
> mare from us.  The mare
> was beautifully trained to do absolutely everything
> --- wonderful
> temperament --- totally dependable with any age,
> including the youngest
> child ---  in excellent health and condition.  ---
> Not cheap, but very good
> value.
> 
> This new owner has had the mare for a month, and
> already she's riding
> and driving, and enjoying this mare with her
> husband, children, and
> grandchildren.
> The lady is very well satisfied, and says over and
> over again how perfect
> the horse is for her.
> 
> It seems to me that the THE LAW OF VALUE applies
> more to horse purchases
> than to anything else.  You might lose money, time,
> and your temper with
> other cheap purchases, but buying a bargain horse
> can hurt you, or kill you.
> 
> Tonight as I was talking to this new Fjord owner,
> she told me about her last
> horse purchase.  --  It was an inexpensive horse
> that was supposed to be a
> driving horse.  She never did hitch it, thank
> goodness, because this horse
> ended up putting her in the hospital for two
> surgeries costing $6,000. --  A
> really classic example of "the thing you bought not
> being capable of doing
> the thing you bought it to do". 
> And this lady is not an amateur.  She's been driving
> since she was 7 years
> old.
> 
> When my customer first started thinking about buying
> this good mare we had
> on consignment, her horse friends and family tried
> hard to talk her out of
> it.  They said -  "the mare is too old" . . .she's
> too expensive" . . . "you
> can find something else younger/cheaper".
> .
> Finally, the lady went with her own feelings, and
> bought the mare, and ever
> since the day of delivery, she's been totally
> delighted, and so pleased she
> bought the horse  despite all the naysayers.
> 
> During our telephone conversation tonight, all I
> could think of was that
> there isn't a better story to illustrate THE LAW OF
> VALUE.  And, I don't
> think there's another commodity that illustrates
> this quote from John Ruskin
> more than horses bought for leisuretime enjoyment.
> 
> "If the thing you bought is incapable of doing the
> thing you bought it to do
> . . . ."  --- It's most certainly not good value. 
> And most certainly won't
> bring you the enjoyment you were looking for.  And
> it will cost you time . .
> . And maybe hurt you . . . . Or worse!
> 
> Certainly I know there are genuine bar

Re: "The Law of Value" - as it applies to Fjordhorses

2003-12-09 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm -

Some years ago, I happened on a quote called 'The Law of Value'

 "It is unwise to pay too much, but unwise to pay too little.  When you pay
too much, you lose a little money, that is all.  When you pay too little,
you sometimes lose everything because the thing you bought was incapable of
doing the thing you bought it to do. . . . . "
 - John Ruskin, English Philosopher
   1819 - 1900

I was  so impresed with this quote that I have it taped to my desk, and
never forget it as we buy, sell, and take Fjords on consignment for people.

  I also remember "The Law" when we're buying things for the farm, and
if I'm tempted to go for the "bargain", I remember the best example we've
had of "The Law".  That was the Manure Spreader' costing $600 and supposed
to be "perfect for the small family farm".  Hah!  The damn thing was totally
useless.  The wheels buckled with the first load.  $600 lost, and back to
spreading manure by hand.  --Not just money lost, but time and backbreaking
labor . . .

After that, whenever we've had to buy a piece of equipment, we try to get
the most heavy duty model available, and know the extra we're paying
is money well spent.

Tonight as I talked to a recent customer, I was reminded of the   'Law of
Value' quote.  This lady recently bought an older mare from us.  The mare
was beautifully trained to do absolutely everything --- wonderful
temperament --- totally dependable with any age, including the youngest
child ---  in excellent health and condition.  --- Not cheap, but very good
value.

This new owner has had the mare for a month, and already she's riding
and driving, and enjoying this mare with her husband, children, and
grandchildren.
The lady is very well satisfied, and says over and over again how perfect
the horse is for her.

It seems to me that the THE LAW OF VALUE applies more to horse purchases
than to anything else.  You might lose money, time, and your temper with
other cheap purchases, but buying a bargain horse can hurt you, or kill you.

Tonight as I was talking to this new Fjord owner, she told me about her last
horse purchase.  --  It was an inexpensive horse that was supposed to be a
driving horse.  She never did hitch it, thank goodness, because this horse
ended up putting her in the hospital for two surgeries costing $6,000. --  A
really classic example of "the thing you bought not being capable of doing
the thing you bought it to do". 
And this lady is not an amateur.  She's been driving since she was 7 years
old.

When my customer first started thinking about buying this good mare we had
on consignment, her horse friends and family tried hard to talk her out of
it.  They said -  "the mare is too old" . . .she's too expensive" . . . "you
can find something else younger/cheaper".
.
Finally, the lady went with her own feelings, and bought the mare, and ever
since the day of delivery, she's been totally delighted, and so pleased she
bought the horse  despite all the naysayers.

During our telephone conversation tonight, all I could think of was that
there isn't a better story to illustrate THE LAW OF VALUE.  And, I don't
think there's another commodity that illustrates this quote from John Ruskin
more than horses bought for leisuretime enjoyment.

"If the thing you bought is incapable of doing the thing you bought it to do
. . . ."  --- It's most certainly not good value.  And most certainly won't
bring you the enjoyment you were looking for.  And it will cost you time . .
. And maybe hurt you . . . . Or worse!

Certainly I know there are genuine bargains to be found.  However, it stands
to reason -- not many of them, and they're not easily found even by experts,
those "in the loop" so to speak.  --  I know for a fact that I couldn't have
duplicated this mare our customer bought from us. I simply couldn't have
found such a good horse anywhere, at any price.  -- 

And something else to keep in mind is that nobody knows just how good, or
not so good a horse is UNTIL they've consistently worked with it.  --  This
may apply more to Fjords than other breeds because almost all Fjords are
people oriented and friendly .. . .  BUT this does NOT mean they are
trained, easy to ride/drive, and have good work ethics.  --  You don't know
any of these things if the horse isn't in current and consistent work.

I can be as tightfisted as the next jperson, and sometimes when I'm buying
an expensive thing, I have to force myself to remember "The Law of
lue".   --  HOWEVER, once the thing is bought and working well, you forget
the price.  You sure as hell don't curse the price you paid when using
something that's working well day in and day out, and doing exactly the job
you bought it to do, and you're enjoying yourself more than you ever thought
possible.

On the contrary, rath