Re: EIA
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 am Subject: Re: EIA To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com I am surprised it is not required of all. I am supposed to have a brand inspection, Coggins and health if I travel outside the state of Idaho or want to come back into it. If I am caught going through a check station without it, the consequences are not pleasant or cheap. I used to do all the coggins testing on this side of the state, it is cheap, as accurate as any test can be and there are positives even in Idaho and Washington . This disease is not treatable, will result in the euthanization, or quarantine for life of your horse if it catches it and can be transmitted by biting insects including flies and possibly close association. The Northwestern States have been relatively free of it, unlike some of the southern states, but in years like this where the heat is unusual, we will most likely see higher activity of diseases which are insect born.Because horses are not regulated as food animals, when states do have positives, they are not well publicized, so you may not even know you are in an area where there have been positives. The test is good for 6 months, although your health certs may have shorter time limits Why risk it? I might not want to have my horses stabled next to someones horses who have not been tested. Kathy in Southern Idaho. This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As stated why is this a requirement for Moses Lake? The rest of the horse shows in Washington State do not require it. If it were an issue for this state it would be mandated and regulated by the State. That is why it is there for interstate travelers. As fjord shows and activities grow instate this would become an even bigger hassle as coggins and health certificates must have the place and date that you are going and are only valid for a certain time. Vets are expensive in Western Washington farm calls range from 65-100$ with health certificates and coggins now the expense is between 220-250$ per horse. That adds up . I would certainly support this for out of state or out of country horses. Bonnie Morris ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: EIA
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As stated why is this a requirement for Moses Lake? The rest of the horse shows in Washington State do not require it. If it were an issue for this state it would be mandated and regulated by the State. That is why it is there for interstate travelers. As fjord shows and activities grow instate this would become an even bigger hassle as coggins and health certificates must have the place and date that you are going and are only valid for a certain time. Vets are expensive in Western Washington farm calls range from 65-100$ with health certificates and coggins now the expense is between 220-250$ per horse. That adds up . I would certainly support this for out of state or out of country horses. Bonnie Morris ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: EIA
This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List.. Here in Maine we must have an up to date negative coggins test and proof of rabies . How can it be a bad thing if it's for the protection or our horses AND owners..? These diseases are horrid. Beth in Maine...still hot and humid..:( - I am trying to figure out how ( besides a small cost compared to the consequences ) not having a coggins test or showing in venues that require them is a BAD thing. I think that the NFHR rule helping protect our Fjords is a good thing. Here is an easy to read article about why the coggins test is required in most states. Lisa EQUINE INFECTIOUS ANEMIA AND THE COGGINS TEST by Robert N. Oglesby, DVM INTRODUCTION Equine Infectious Anemia is a viral disease for which there is no vaccine and no cure. Though most horses succumb rapidly to EIA a percentage of infected horses appear to recover. However they still harbor the virus and during times of stress may become ill again. It is because of these healthy appearing carriers that we test horses. It insures that we do not put their pasture mates at risk. TRANSMISSION Recently we have learned more about the transmission of this disease. The disease is spread by horseflies. The large horsefly is the main vector. If they bite an infected horse and then bite a healthy horse, the disease gets transmitted. The virus does not live for very long on the horsefly, maybe as little as fifteen or thirty minutes. So for one horse to infect another they must be close to each other. This disease occurs anywhere horseflies live. CLINICAL SIGNS Three different sets of symptoms occur: acute, chronic and the asymptomatic carrier. With acute infection the horse has fever, depression, and no appetite. The acute horse may be difficult to diagnose because the symptoms are very general and he will not be positive on the EIA test for a month and a half. Approximately one third of infected horses will die of the acute form within a month. The chronically infected horse will having recurring acute bouts along with weight loss, ventral edema (swollen belly and legs) and anemia. These horses will be positive on a EIA test. These horses may linger for a year or more before they die. Most asymptomatic EIA infected horses will not show any recognizable signs but will test positive on a Coggins test. COGGINS TEST To insure that an animal is not harboring the virus a simple test is performed, the Coggins test. The Coggins test checks for Equine Infectious Anemia (EIA) antibodies in the horse's blood. Blood samples must be sent to a state approved laboratory. This test is often needed to take your horse to a show and whenever you transport your horse across state lines. It is to prove to others your horse is safe to be around their horses. Some states now require a negative Coggins test on a horse before he can be sold. Before you travel check to see how recent a test is required because it differs from place to place. Once you have a negative Coggins further testing is not required for your own peace of mind. Your horse will not become EIA positive unless he develops a serious, febrile illness after contact with a horse of unknown EIA status. You may be required to have a test done yearly to show or transport your horse, so other people will know your horse is safe. PREVENTION The current testing program has gone a long way toward reducing this disease. Few people remember, prior to the testing in the 1970's that this disease killed many thousands of horses annually. It was originally thought that the testing program would eradicate EIA but every year there are just enough asymptomatic carriers to perpetuate the problem. There is no vaccine for EIA. It is important that you be careful that your horse's pasture mates are as healthy appearing as your own horse. Board your horse only where a negative Coggins test is required of all horses before they come on the premises. This is your best protection. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: EIA
This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings All, Now this is interesting. I guess that all of the years we have gone to Libby, I thought that everyone had both their Health and Coggins. I remember people checking us in, with downpours, cold and no horse unloaded ( was that Brian ? ) with a flashlight in the middle of the night. We had to have paperwork in hand. I guess that we have never competed in WA. but are very used to getting both a Health Cert. and Coggins before we headed out to most states. Yes, this was true for us as well, regarding attending Libby. In fact, for us, in addition to the Coggins (EIA) and Health Cert., for the past few years, we were only able to obtain our Health Certs 48 hours prior to leaving for the event due to outbreaks of Vesticular Stomatitis. Our veterinarian had to check the horses for any signs of this disease and certify that we did not have the disease on our property OR in our county prior to leaving. Now THAT caused some concern for actually even being able to attend only two days prior to our departure date. Talk about stress. And that was after sending in all of the entry fees for the evaluations as well as the show! In Colorado, many boarding stables require a negative Coggins report in order to be able to board. All of our dressage show entries require submission of a negative Coggins form within 6 months. If you cross the state line with your horses, you have to carry a current health certificate, which requires a negative Coggins test within 6 months, and a Brand Inspection, which is considered your proof of ownership/right to possession/transport of the horse. Because it was a requirement of the NFHR evaluation system (and has been for several years) all of the horses entered in the Greeley, CO evaluation were required to present a negative Coggins test. Even those who were only traveling a few miles to the event location. EIA is considered a very dangerous disease in the equine industry. I don't know all of the medical particulars, but if a horse tests positive for the disease there are two options for the future management of the horse. 1.) It can be housed at least 200 yards (I could be wrong regarding the distance...it may be greater) from any possible contact with any other horses/livestock for the remainder of it's life or 2.) It can be euthanized. The vector for the disease is biting insects, mainly flies, so it is difficult -if not impossible- to control. I have a friend who had to have her horse euthanized after it tested positive for the disease. Because it is controlled so well, and because of the horse's history, it seemed virtually impossible that the horse could test positive, but it did. They isolated the horse and took a number of further tests to rule out any chance of a false positive, but all of the tests came back positive. My friend did not think it was humane to house the horse away from other horses for the remainder of it's life, so had the horse euthanized. It broke her heart. Under the circumstances, accepting that the test is required to attend a show, especilly considering that horses might be attending from out of state, seems prudent to me. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: EIA
This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I aggree with Beth 100 percent. And will add owning, showing, horses is not cheap, if you are gonna play, you need to pay. Sorry, Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. - Original Message - From: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: Re: EIA This message is from: Starfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings All, Now this is interesting. I guess that all of the years we have gone to Libby, I thought that everyone had both their Health and Coggins. I remember people checking us in, with downpours, cold and no horse unloaded ( was that Brian ? ) with a flashlight in the middle of the night. We had to have paperwork in hand. I guess that we have never competed in WA. but are very used to getting both a Health Cert. and Coggins before we headed out to most states. Yes, this was true for us as well, regarding attending Libby. In fact, for us, in addition to the Coggins (EIA) and Health Cert., for the past few years, we were only able to obtain our Health Certs 48 hours prior to leaving for the event due to outbreaks of Vesticular Stomatitis. Our veterinarian had to check the horses for any signs of this disease and certify that we did not have the disease on our property OR in our county prior to leaving. Now THAT caused some concern for actually even being able to attend only two days prior to our departure date. Talk about stress. And that was after sending in all of the entry fees for the evaluations as well as the show! In Colorado, many boarding stables require a negative Coggins report in order to be able to board. All of our dressage show entries require submission of a negative Coggins form within 6 months. If you cross the state line with your horses, you have to carry a current health certificate, which requires a negative Coggins test within 6 months, and a Brand Inspection, which is considered your proof of ownership/right to possession/transport of the horse. Because it was a requirement of the NFHR evaluation system (and has been for several years) all of the horses entered in the Greeley, CO evaluation were required to present a negative Coggins test. Even those who were only traveling a few miles to the event location. EIA is considered a very dangerous disease in the equine industry. I don't know all of the medical particulars, but if a horse tests positive for the disease there are two options for the future management of the horse. 1.) It can be housed at least 200 yards (I could be wrong regarding the distance...it may be greater) from any possible contact with any other horses/livestock for the remainder of it's life or 2.) It can be euthanized. The vector for the disease is biting insects, mainly flies, so it is difficult -if not impossible- to control. I have a friend who had to have her horse euthanized after it tested positive for the disease. Because it is controlled so well, and because of the horse's history, it seemed virtually impossible that the horse could test positive, but it did. They isolated the horse and took a number of further tests to rule out any chance of a false positive, but all of the tests came back positive. My friend did not think it was humane to house the horse away from other horses for the remainder of it's life, so had the horse euthanized. It broke her heart. Under the circumstances, accepting that the test is required to attend a show, especilly considering that horses might be attending from out of state, seems prudent to me. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.10/908 - Release Date: 7/19/2007 6:10 PM For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
