Re: Walk a Million Miles . . .or S$*@ happens...

2001-01-14 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

for pamela,  check out barbraschulte.com.  she specializes in helping
people overcome their fears.  good website and she will repond
personally to any questions you may have.  hope it helps.  i am sure a
lot of the listers have had the same doubts and fears over the years
being involved with horses.  denise in sunny and cold, northern calif.

> > . Never say never, 'cause,(and I know from what I speak) it has
> > happened to me once. With a certifiable "dead broke" fjord. My eyes
> > have been open ever since.
>
> Just goes to show, you can never get too complacent. In the back of my
> mind, always is a story of a very competent trainer, walking his old
> mare to a pasture (or somewhere). This mare was perfectly trustworthy.
> But the man ended up dead with a hoofprint on his head. Who knows what
> happened? Gawd, I don't even remember when I heard this story, or who
> it was about, but it made an indelible impression on me to NEVER be
> too confident.
>
> However, I'm fighting that too! Just came back from Day 1 of a Dr.
> Ritter clinic. I STILL have a tendency to lean forward in anticipation
> of a more forward gait. He could tell it is from an old fear, and I
> will NEVER become the type of rider I want to be till I conquer that.
> The fear stems from my ex-TB. 16.3 and threw me HARD. I was probably
> 10 feet in the air at the top of the arc from which she threw me. The
> tool he's given me to work with this is: "This is a safe horse.
> Juniper is good. She will not rear, nor will she buck. She is good and
> WILL do what I ask". I repeat this mantra and really prepare for the
> upward transition, instead of just letting it happen. We'll see if I
> make improvement. I go back again tomorrow (btw, everybody there has
> fallen in love with Juniper, she's a great ambassador to fjords.
> Everybody can see how tolerant she is of a beginning dressage rider
> and how once I get something, she instantly gives exactly what is
> asked". And after tomorrow, there's another clinic in February.
> Hopefully by then the forward tilt will have gone away!
>
> Pamela
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Re: Walk a Million Miles . . .or S$*@ happens...

2001-01-14 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Pam the "forward tilt" happens also as we age. It is a balance thing.
Believe me I used to think leaning forward would keep me from being bucked
off.  Have you watched cowboys on their bucking bronc or bulls?  They lean
far back because the waist or lower body takes the buck.  If forward they
would be shot into space as you were.  So your safety measure is a "NOT".
When Ann Appleby rode Gunnar for me he decided to add a buck as they walked
toward the arena.  it was the strangest buck I have seen.  He raised his
back like a camel, a real hump between his hips and shoulders.  She is so
fluid she did not really notice it.  His legs never changed their rhythm.





Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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Re: Walk a Million Miles . . .or S$*@ happens...

2001-01-14 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 1/13/01 9:30:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> . Never say never, 'cause,(and I know from what I speak) it has
> happened to me once. With a certifiable "dead broke" fjord. My eyes
> have been open ever since.

Just goes to show, you can never get too complacent. In the back of my
mind, always is a story of a very competent trainer, walking his old
mare to a pasture (or somewhere). This mare was perfectly trustworthy.
But the man ended up dead with a hoofprint on his head. Who knows what
happened? Gawd, I don't even remember when I heard this story, or who
it was about, but it made an indelible impression on me to NEVER be
too confident.

However, I'm fighting that too! Just came back from Day 1 of a Dr.
Ritter clinic. I STILL have a tendency to lean forward in anticipation
of a more forward gait. He could tell it is from an old fear, and I
will NEVER become the type of rider I want to be till I conquer that.
The fear stems from my ex-TB. 16.3 and threw me HARD. I was probably
10 feet in the air at the top of the arc from which she threw me. The
tool he's given me to work with this is: "This is a safe horse.
Juniper is good. She will not rear, nor will she buck. She is good and
WILL do what I ask". I repeat this mantra and really prepare for the
upward transition, instead of just letting it happen. We'll see if I
make improvement. I go back again tomorrow (btw, everybody there has
fallen in love with Juniper, she's a great ambassador to fjords.
Everybody can see how tolerant she is of a beginning dressage rider
and how once I get something, she instantly gives exactly what is
asked". And after tomorrow, there's another clinic in February.
Hopefully by then the forward tilt will have gone away!

Pamela






Re: Walk a Million Miles . . .or S$*@ happens...

2001-01-13 Thread Karen McCarthy

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





This message is from:Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -


"...Her mistake, in my opinion, was in NOT DRIVING FJORDS.  I honestly
don't think this accident would have happened with a similarly trained pair 
of Fjords."


Carol,
You are dead wrong on this one.
IMO, Gay's glaring mistake, as far as I can see from your synopsis of 
training, is that they were never trained with a leg over traces or pole 
(substitute).But, maybe they were, thus exposing the universal truth yet 
again that s- - - happens. This was just a very, very unfortunate incident.
The other immeasurable factor is the true degree of training, and the 
intimacy and rapport that come with horse(s) and their person. Just putting 
miles and time in, is no guarantee. It is the quality of time, and the 
rapport, NOT the quantity.
I think you are being extremely chauvinistic, (as is your want), but no, 
sorry, can't say this could of never happened with a dead broke pair of 
fjords. Unlikely yes, but not impossible. Never say never, 'cause,(and I 
know from what I speak) it has happened to me once. With a certifiable "dead 
broke" fjord. My eyes have been open ever since.



Karen McCarthy *(trying to squeeze into my non-stretch flamesuit)
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV

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