This message is from: "Les D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark I saw just the Fjord that would meet the things you are looking for. It was at the Turelock Show two year ago and I really wanted to take it home myself. It was this beautiful large wood carving about 2 foot long and at the show it would score. And by the front door it could stand there not biting anyone or thing. :)))) Good luck looking for your Fjord. Les & Margaret H. Callahan,Ca