Re:white dun filly-

2006-08-18 Thread Jean Ernest

This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In Phil Sponenberg's  books, Equine color Genetics, there is a photo of a 
Silvery Grullo in each edition:  In the first edition the picture is of a 
Spanish mustang, in the 2nd edition it is, what do you know, a very light 
colored grey Fjord!  Both are pretty much the same light color as Abby.

Sponenberg lists the possible genetics as including the cremello gene.
He also stresses that there are many various shades of the different dilute 
colors.


Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska

From looking at Abby's pedigree, couldn't she be the elusive grey dun 
with the addition of the creme gene (in QH-speak, a smokey black and 
grulla in the same package)?  We keep hearing of the probability that the 
grey dun masks the addition of the creme gene.  This could be an 
explanation as to the uncertainty of her true color and her ability to 
look grey dun but produce white dun.  Just a guess since her dam was 
white and sire was grey.

Makes sense to me, anyway.


Re:white dun filly-

2006-08-18 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 05:11 PM 8/16/2006, you wrote:

This message is from: Sara Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is Stone fox Farm's Abby- when she was a foal she was a very light
color- instead of the typical black shading on the face of a grey she
had light brown. Her eyes are also a very light amber color. As she
matured (3-4 years old) Her color on her face darkened to the typical
dark grey. There are pictures of Abby on our website in the gallery
section. www.mandalafarm.com. I forgot to mention in the last note
that the sire of the new white dun filly is Aimee Day's Drafn, a
brown dun stallion.


I have changed her color to grey on the NFHR records.  After looking 
at the picture she certainly looks like a grey  not a white.


Mike


Sara





Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:57:00 -0800
From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: white dun filly-

This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is this STONE FOX FARM'S ABBY?  And is she a very pale (white)
grey?  I
have thought that A grey and White dun might produce a very pale grey,
which could be mistaken for a white dun.  I wonder how many White
duns
are really very pale greys?

Jean in rainy (again) Fairbanks, Alaska, 64 degrees



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Re:white dun filly-

2006-08-17 Thread Karen Keith

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From looking at Abby's pedigree, couldn't she be the elusive grey dun with 
the addition of the creme gene (in QH-speak, a smokey black and grulla in 
the same package)?  We keep hearing of the probability that the grey dun 
masks the addition of the creme gene.  This could be an explanation as to 
the uncertainty of her true color and her ability to look grey dun but 
produce white dun.  Just a guess since her dam was white and sire was grey.  
Makes sense to me, anyway.


KK




It is Stone fox Farm's Abby- when she was a foal she was a very light  
color- instead of the typical black shading on the face of a grey she  had 
light brown. Her eyes are also a very light amber color. As she  matured 
(3-4 years old) Her color on her face darkened to the typical  dark grey. 
There are pictures of Abby on our website in the gallery  section. 
www.mandalafarm.com. I forgot to mention in the last note  that the sire of 
the new white dun filly is Aimee Day's Drafn, a   brown dun stallion.

Sara




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Re:white dun filly-

2006-08-17 Thread Jean Ernest

This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ah yes, looking at her pictures, she could be a white dun if it weren't for 
the dark face!  So I think that IS what happens when the grey is diluted 
with a creme gene, and I suspect there are a number of very light greys 
around and some may be called white duns.


Interesting about the amber eyes.  Her Grandfather is Modellen and he goes 
back to Ola Gik and Flikka of course.


Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly cloudy this evening after tons of rain 
this morning.


At 05:11 PM 8/16/2006 -0400, you wrote:

This message is from: Sara Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is Stone fox Farm's Abby- when she was a foal she was a very light
color- instead of the typical black shading on the face of a grey she
had light brown. Her eyes are also a very light amber color. As she
matured (3-4 years old) Her color on her face darkened to the typical
dark grey. There are pictures of Abby on our website in the gallery
section. www.mandalafarm.com. I forgot to mention in the last note
that the sire of the new white dun filly is Aimee Day's Drafn, a
brown dun stallion.
Sara