Re:white dun filly-
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] In Phil Sponenberg's books, Equine color Genetics, there is a photo of a Silvery Grullo in each edition: In the first edition the picture is of a Spanish mustang, in the 2nd edition it is, what do you know, a very light colored grey Fjord! Both are pretty much the same light color as Abby. Sponenberg lists the possible genetics as including the cremello gene. He also stresses that there are many various shades of the different dilute colors. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska From looking at Abby's pedigree, couldn't she be the elusive grey dun with the addition of the creme gene (in QH-speak, a smokey black and grulla in the same package)? We keep hearing of the probability that the grey dun masks the addition of the creme gene. This could be an explanation as to the uncertainty of her true color and her ability to look grey dun but produce white dun. Just a guess since her dam was white and sire was grey. Makes sense to me, anyway.
Re:white dun filly-
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:11 PM 8/16/2006, you wrote: This message is from: Sara Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is Stone fox Farm's Abby- when she was a foal she was a very light color- instead of the typical black shading on the face of a grey she had light brown. Her eyes are also a very light amber color. As she matured (3-4 years old) Her color on her face darkened to the typical dark grey. There are pictures of Abby on our website in the gallery section. www.mandalafarm.com. I forgot to mention in the last note that the sire of the new white dun filly is Aimee Day's Drafn, a brown dun stallion. I have changed her color to grey on the NFHR records. After looking at the picture she certainly looks like a grey not a white. Mike Sara Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:57:00 -0800 From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: white dun filly- This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this STONE FOX FARM'S ABBY? And is she a very pale (white) grey? I have thought that A grey and White dun might produce a very pale grey, which could be mistaken for a white dun. I wonder how many White duns are really very pale greys? Jean in rainy (again) Fairbanks, Alaska, 64 degrees === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:white dun filly-
This message is from: Karen Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] From looking at Abby's pedigree, couldn't she be the elusive grey dun with the addition of the creme gene (in QH-speak, a smokey black and grulla in the same package)? We keep hearing of the probability that the grey dun masks the addition of the creme gene. This could be an explanation as to the uncertainty of her true color and her ability to look grey dun but produce white dun. Just a guess since her dam was white and sire was grey. Makes sense to me, anyway. KK It is Stone fox Farm's Abby- when she was a foal she was a very light color- instead of the typical black shading on the face of a grey she had light brown. Her eyes are also a very light amber color. As she matured (3-4 years old) Her color on her face darkened to the typical dark grey. There are pictures of Abby on our website in the gallery section. www.mandalafarm.com. I forgot to mention in the last note that the sire of the new white dun filly is Aimee Day's Drafn, a brown dun stallion. Sara _ Be the one of the first to try the NEW Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programPage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d
Re:white dun filly-
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah yes, looking at her pictures, she could be a white dun if it weren't for the dark face! So I think that IS what happens when the grey is diluted with a creme gene, and I suspect there are a number of very light greys around and some may be called white duns. Interesting about the amber eyes. Her Grandfather is Modellen and he goes back to Ola Gik and Flikka of course. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly cloudy this evening after tons of rain this morning. At 05:11 PM 8/16/2006 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Sara Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is Stone fox Farm's Abby- when she was a foal she was a very light color- instead of the typical black shading on the face of a grey she had light brown. Her eyes are also a very light amber color. As she matured (3-4 years old) Her color on her face darkened to the typical dark grey. There are pictures of Abby on our website in the gallery section. www.mandalafarm.com. I forgot to mention in the last note that the sire of the new white dun filly is Aimee Day's Drafn, a brown dun stallion. Sara