Re: SV: SV: Grey eel? + Kviten

2000-05-16 Thread Steve Sessoms
This message is from: Steve Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Anneil wrote ...

>>> >>I think having a 'most vividly striped brown dun' Fjordhorse class at
the 
shows would be lots of fun.>>
That would be fun! I was at ah Borzoi (aka Russian wolfhound) show this
saturday and they always have classes for best tail, best head etc. Just
for fun. But why only brown duns? One of the most striped fjords I've ever
seen is my red dun gelding. Perhaps we should have an on-line stripe show
for fjords? <<<

I too have a red dun and the only stripes you can see are the patches high
up on her front legs.  I guess I assumed all red duns had hard to see
striping!  And I was thinking that, if it were open to all colors the
vividly striped gray duns would take the blue every time!  

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SV: SV: Grey eel? + Kviten

2000-05-15 Thread Anneli Sundkvist
This message is from: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Meredith wrote:

Hello again!

I've been away for the weekend so I'm sorry that this colour-message might be a 
bit late.

Meredith wrote:

>>... if the primitive dun colors of the Fjordhorse can
be broken down as shown below, some ulsduns (white duns) should be black
dilutes and not bay dilutes:

brown dun  -  bay dun
red dun  -  chestnut dun
gray dun  -  black dun
 
 ulsdun  -  buckskin (bay dilute) dun
yellow dun  -  palomino (chestnut dilute) dun
 
kvit  -  cremello/perlino (palomino/buckskin dilute) dun

 I would like to make a formal request that we change the English name for
 ulsblakken (or is that 'ulsblakk'?), 'white dun', to 'wool dun' or 'cream
 dun'  or to use the word 'ulsdun', since 'white dun' is misleading and
 incorrect in light of the kvit.  Or perhaps someone who owns a white dun
 has come up with a better suggestion.>>

Wouldn't a very simple way to do it be just to add 'creme' to the colour for 
horses carrying the creme gene? Creme brown dun for what we now call uls or 
white dun, creme red dun for yellow dun etc? 

Of course, there will still be horses registred with the in-correct colour, but 
nothing in the world will ever stop that from happening now and then. It's 
always the offspring that shows what colour a horse REALLY are. 

>> And it is my understanding that some red duns have very little color in
their manes and tails.  My red duns mane stripe is such a pale brown that I
have never bothered to give her a Dutch cut.  I can see the stripe in there
but it isn't very dark at all.  Her tail is pale brown and yellow where my
brown duns tail is black.>>

Yep, many red duns have very light stripe in mane and tail. I wonder if some of 
the red duns I've encountered were really yellow duns. My own red dun has a 
very pink stripe in both mane and tail and so has his mother. A friend of mine 
aslo has a red dun and he has a tan stripe in mane and tail, but his mother had 
all white mane and tail. 

>>I think having a 'most vividly striped brown dun' Fjordhorse class at the
shows would be lots of fun.>>

That would be fun! I was at ah Borzoi (aka Russian wolfhound) show this 
saturday and they always have classes for best tail, best head etc. Just for 
fun. But why only brown duns? One of the most striped fjords I've ever seen is 
my red dun gelding. Perhaps we should have an on-line stripe show for fjords?

Regards

Anneli

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Anneli Sundkvist
Department of Archaeology & Ancient History
Uppsala University
St. Eriks Torg 5
S-753 10 Uppsala
Sweden

Phone: +46-18-471282 (dept.) +46-18-553627 (home)
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