Re: Saga of the cart jumping Morgan

1999-12-06 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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Catching up from weekend posts:

From Bill:
 Perhaps if someone else had been steading the
horse, it would not have bolted?

Response:
That is only one of the many lessons I finally learned that day! And I think it
was the main one!

To Diane about cellphone:
 I do go out alone and I do carry a cellphone that is on my person not attached
to my cart or saddle. The main time not to be alone is in a training situation
especially when you introducing the horse to something new or if you are really
a green horse person with a green horse. I do prefer company when riding or
driving - just more fun but it hard to find people at 7 am in the morning during
the summer when I try to condition my horse. I have learned to have help when I
am training.

RE: Kissing
Well, I confess to being a horse and dog kisser! However, Tank is not the best
to do this to - his nose is so gritty! I think it has something to do with his
constant search for food. He is kind of like the Corgi - always with his nose to
the ground snuffling for something to eat. Steve's Morgan, Pferd, has the best
nose - we call it the velveteen nose! But he gets so insulted!

Cynthia Madden
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RE: Saga of the cart jumping Morgan

1999-12-03 Thread Turcotte, Dianne
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Not riding alone is not much of a realistic option for some people.
However I do carry a cell phone whenever I have to ride alone.

Just my 2 cents,

:)



Re: Saga of the cart jumping Morgan

1999-12-03 Thread wcoli
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One of the things that occured to me when hearing the sory 
about the Morgan, was that it is really not a good idea to go riding 
OR driving alone. Perhaps if someone else had been steading the 
horse, it would not have bolted?



Re: Saga of the cart jumping Morgan

1999-12-02 Thread Jean Gayle
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Cynthia, I took lessons from Doris Ganton some years ago and drove one of
her beautiful horses.  But I am one who does not like taking chances
anymore.  When you fall at my age there is no bounce  At times I am
ready to try something wild and then back off in favor of being in one
piece.  So, unless it was a horse who thoroughly enjoys his work I would not
try driving again.Jean




Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Re: Saga of the cart jumping Morgan

1999-12-02 Thread Cynthia Madden
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Jean,
I surely didn't mean to discourage anyone from driving with my story.
It ultimately didn't discourage me. I just want to underscore some of
my lessons - that experienced help and a lot of common sense are
needed to drive. It requires adherence to the standard rules of safety
for driving without exception - most of which I broke in ignorance and
over eagerness. I always had the support of our driving club people
and found a great trainer whose emphasis is always on safety and
having fun with your horse. I hope you can find someone like this to
help you learn to drive. Find your local driving club and talk to
people. I have found driving folks very much like Fjord folks.

I have never (knock of wood and my time will come, I know) had an
injury or accident while driving my Tank. However, he did slam dunk me
off his back one day and I broke my collar bone and two ribs. I felt
the liner in my helmet compress, my head hit the ground so hard. Now
are you going to quit riding Gunnar? I think not. This happened in
early June and I could not ride all summer. However, I could drive and
did after two weeks. I even showed at Blue Earth that year, neck
collar and all.

Another view point. When little Nick had his accident at Blue Earth
this year and was bucked off his horse while in trail class, my
granddaughter turned to me and said, I'm sure glad I drive instead of
ride. It is so much safer! Needless to say, we had a little talk.

You must always be ready for the unexpected while driving and things
happen. But you hone your skill and train your horse constantly - and
this is the real fun about driving!

I hope you will reconsider because you will find driving a blast!

Cynthia Madden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Omaha, Nebraska USA



Re: The Saga of the Cart Jumping Morgan (long)

1999-12-02 Thread Bushnell's
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At 10:13 AM 12/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or ... all the dumb things a person new to driving can do and still manage
not
to kill their horse:


Cynthia, that was very entertaining! thank you for sharing with us, you
have a nice story telling style. Ruthie



Re: The Saga of the Cart Jumping Morgan (long)

1999-12-02 Thread Jean Gayle
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Cynthia, I know it won't happen but you should do a movie!  Your
descriptions had my heart in my throat as Keyah headed for the gate and then
the barbed wire fence.  Amazingly good luck, except for Steve's misfortune.
Thanks for your honesty in describing your boo-boos.  I have been thinking
that I would take up driving at my increased age rather than riding.  I also
shared the view that is was easier on the horse and safer.  Wrong!!
Obviously.  Think I will just keep riding my little Gunnar.




Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes  Noble Book Stores



The Saga of the Cart Jumping Morgan (long)

1999-12-02 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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or ... all the dumb things a person new to driving can do and still manage not
to kill their horse:

I have been requested to share my early experiences teaching a horse to drive
(an oxymoron since I didn't know how to drive). I decided I wanted to drive and
Steve bought me a used harness and training cart for my birthday. I ground drove
Keyah, my Morgan, and did all the things books tell you to do and we finally
hitched him and he did wonderfully. He was such a cute driving horse!

One day, I decided to put a new bit on Keyah. It had a chain chinstrap which he
was not used to.  I put it on the bridle, harnessed him and hitched him up. The
chain and it noise spooked him. Before I even got into the cart, he bolted,
escaped from me and took himself and his cart through a gate. The welder
straightened out the cart. Steve and I decided to try rehitching Keyah after a
suitable time, which resulted in Steve getting a broken arm.  I decided I needed
help (finally!) and took Keyah to Lyle Peterson (ADS people will know who he is
- past ADS president will hopefully be back in Nebraska soon). Lyle hitched him
with a Belgian to a farm wagon and took him down the road - no bolting possible
now! In fact, by the time they came back, Keyah was pulling the wagon by himself
while the Belgian just laughed at him. I have a picture of this and don't tell
me that horses don't have expressions. They are particularly good at expressing
disgust.

Lyle kept Keyah for a couple of weeks and then told me to come get him. I drove
him before I left and I was so delighted with him! Since Steve was still
recovering from his broken arm, I went out alone the next day to hitch Keyah up
in the arena and drive him. There was no one there but me - the place was
deserted, but I was eager to drive my rehabilitated guy.

Now one of Keyah's traits is that he likes to scare himself (this and my
ignorant mistakes are what make him NOT a driving horse today). Under saddle,
this trait is not so bad - in harness this is one disaster after another waiting
to happen. I hitched him up in the rodeo size arena with his face to the fence.
I turned him around preparatory to getting into the cart. As soon as I turned
him, Keyah decided to play bolt - it was obviously just a little test for me. I
hung on to the reins. He did a  circle around me which was tight enough to turn
over the cart. At this point, he has finally really scared himself and truly
bolts. Down the arena he flies. The lite little cart rights itself and is
bouncing merrily behind him. I am standing there heart in mouth watching him. He
heads straight for the fence at the end - this is a high rodeo arena type fence.
Surely, he will turn. Nope, he does not turn - he leaps over the fence! I can't
tell the millions of thoughts flashing through my head - mainly, I've killed my
horse!. The horse and cart clear the fence! Now he is in the pasture but headed
towards the road where the fence is barbed wire. He has amazingly survived one
hazard only now to be headed straight towards another. I know he will die. I am
running towards the end of the arena, but  there is absolutely nothing I can do.
This horse is terror struck and totally out of his mind.

Suddenly, sanity seems to  return. Instead of going through (or over ) the
fence, he turns. He runs to a corner of the pasture and stops himself. Luckily,
he not too far from me. I leap the rodeo arena fence - actually I scramble
through it but adrenalin keeps me from getting stuck. I get to him. He is ready
to be rescued -even if it is me - and lets me get him unhitched and out of he
harness. He has suffered absolutely no physical harm - not so the cart.

Now how many stupid things did I do with this horse? They are almost
unncountable - but so typical of the neophyte training the neophyte. It was
several years before I tried driving again. One more halfhearted attempt  years
later to see if Keyah would drive proved that this was not for him.- he just
doesn't have the mind for it.  I think it was the trauma of my own stupidity
more than fear of driving that kept me from it. But the the desire never died
and one day, I brought home Tank the wonder horse. By that time, I had been to
clinics, worked with a trainer  with our other Morgan (who is a great driving
horse) and this trainer guided us in training Tank. I learned a lot of lessons
from this phase. Today, Keyah is a twenty years old and a great riding horse but
he is not a driving horse - although for a while we did consider that maybe he
should have a career in jumping!.

Cynthia Madden
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