Re: Stall bound, tail brushing and Clydesdales, unrelated

2000-12-04 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- Janne Myrdal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  My sister in law is looking at buying a Clydesdale
> gelding, 2 years old,
> halter broke (barely)Anyone
> out there have ANY
> experience with Clydes???

Janne,

Before we got into Fjords, we had some experience with
Clydes through a friend whom we helped with his.  They
ARE magnificent - read, BIG!!  The first team I ever
drove was a 'dead broke' team - mare and gelding - of
these horses.  Since then I have driven a 'big horse'
or two at clinics, plowing bees, etc.  One thing I did
find with Clydes - many of them  have really bad feet.
 This comes because certain lines of them tend to have
pretty thin hoof walls for the size/weight of animal
on top of those feet.  Hence, you are FOREVER fighting
cracks, quarter cracks, missing chunks of hoof wall,
etc., which often results in a horse you really can't
use much because his feet can't stand up to use.  So -
be SURE to look is feet over well, and have a trusted
farrier look at them to check out the good and bad
points. Other than the foot problem, I can't think of
anything else 'bad' about Clydes - they are just too
darn BIG for some of us!  I had to sit on their backs
to comb manes and stand on a stepladder to groom them!
 And getting a harness UP onto that back - and DOWN
again - can be a challenge if you are small and have
no one to help you. Also, a full grown Clyde does NOT
fit into a standard side-by-side load horse trailer,
unless you can remove the center divider and haul just
one Clyde.  We had a stock trailer which had been
converted for BIG horses before we got it - had two
permanent 'stalls' in front with heavy gates behind
them, plus a 'loose' box area in the back one-third of
the trailer. I believe the trailer was converted to
haul a pair of hunter/jumpers.  We used to haul a team
of Clydes - fully harnessed, except for bridles - in
those two front stalls with the doors fixed open so
they could 'overflow' out into the back part of the
trailer.  The back of the trailer had a full door with
safety latch, so we could use the trailer without the
front 'stall' doors closed.  Believe me, two Clydes in
that trailer was a LOAD - they weighed over a ton
apiece!  I'm not sure that even a new, slant load,
two-horse trailer would be adequate for them,
considering their weight.  For their size they are
really very 'kind and gracious' animals in my
experience.  AND they LOVE attention!

Good luck to your sister-in-law.

Mary 


  

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Raintree Farms
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Re: Tail brushing

2000-12-02 Thread Fjord1901
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In a message dated 12/1/00 11:03:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< The young lady who cleans our tack at the ranch recently sewed an 
excellent 
 tail bag for her horse. It covers the whole tail. I am going to ask her to 
 make some for ours, despite Jack's objections!  >>

>>OBJECTIONS, OBJECTIONS!,,, Of course I have objections! 
I have no problem with the tails and I don't want my Rafael  ( a very 
male Fjord at that) runing around with a wishy washy baggie hanging off his 
butt.. I feel as long as he has someone who cares enough to "pamper" 
his behind, he dosen't need anything more. I have recently learned to "french 
braid", which incorporates all of the tail. So, I ask, what more is 
necessary??? Oh yea, a "baggie hanging off his butt.. 
I rest my case : ))) Jack



Re: Stall bound, tail brushing and Clydesdales, unrelated

2000-12-02 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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>and is selling him for less than a thousand.  Anyone out there have ANY
>experience with Clydes???  Apart for their majestic look, and of course the
>bud commercials I know nothing about temprament etc.  Any info would be
>appreciated.

 My farrier charges big bucks to shoe drafts.  I gather that, even when they
are good about their feet, they can still lean on a farrier and be awfully
tiring to work on.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Stall bound, tail brushing and Clydesdales, unrelated

2000-12-02 Thread Janne Myrdal
This message is from: "Janne Myrdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ofjords, so sorry to hear about your mare, hope and pray all goes well.  I
once had to stall a warmblood trotter mare for 5 monts, a hoof problem, she
literally wore the stall floor, wood, into a circle as she walked and walked
and swung her head at every turn.  The floor looked like something from "The
Count of Monte Cristo".  She did ok tho, and did not lose herself, but
stayed mentally with me, and emerged a winner.  We used to put a rabbit and
some do goats, in the stall.  My current QH mare's best friend was a gaot
until it died this summer, and that was in the pasture.  Give it a try!

I almost never brush the Fjord's tails, - I am still trying to build up my
QH mare's tail after the prior owner must have brushed her hands off, uffda.

My sister in law is looking at buying a Clydesdale gelding, 2 years old,
halter broke (barely)  The owner got married, looking for a good home only
and is selling him for less than a thousand.  Anyone out there have ANY
experience with Clydes???  Apart for their majestic look, and of course the
bud commercials I know nothing about temprament etc.  Any info would be
appreciated.

Janne in 20 below windshield ND.



Tail brushing

2000-12-01 Thread Cheryl Beillard
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Well, I for one don't think this is an odd question .. I have noticed
different levels of reluctance and/or indifference, from each of my 5 fjords
re their tails.  Following Carol Rivoire's injunction against tail brushing
(see her book!) I have resisted the impulse to play dolls, which is what I
think tail brushing can devolve into ..! but I also have several mares who
get their tails in a terrible state .. and so I do wash them periodically
and use a conditioner..   Some don't mind at all, one of my younger ones
gets quite upset at her tail being handled, but I persevere.  The other
thing I have discovered is something called Cowboy Magic .. there must be
lots out there using it ...but what a wonderful product!  It's a conditioner
that you can use without wetting the hair and you apply about a .25c piece
size dob on your hands, rub and run your hands through the tail. Do this for
3 days or even 3 times a week and almost instantly you have a tail you can
pick out, without brushing/pulling, which I think is the aspect which
troubles my young mare.




Re: Tail brushing

2000-12-01 Thread Epona1971
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I will begin by saying that Jack is the "Tail guy" in the family. He can take 
a dreadlocked tail and turn it into something beautiful in 15 minutes! 
However not wanted to be faced with dreadlocks every week, he sprays 
liberally with Show Sheen and makes a braid. Doesn't fold in half, just lets 
it hang down. The hair stays untangled and grows very full, since you're not 
pulling out tangled hairs any more.

The young lady who cleans our tack at the ranch recently sewed an excellent 
tail bag for her horse. It covers the whole tail. I am going to ask her to 
make some for ours, despite Jack's objections! 

Brigid in CA



Re: Tail brushing

2000-12-01 Thread Reinbowend
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I really had to weigh in on the tail issue. As some of you may know, Marnix 
has a very bountiful tail. On marathon day I used to try a conventional mud 
wrap. braid to the end and fold over and wrap the whole thing with vet wrap. 
However it's so heavy that it would sort of be like having a baseball bat 
hanging from his butt. It almost always worked partway out and looked goofy. 
Now we just braid and fold the bottom and wrap strategically with vet wrap 
and electric tape. Whenever he gets burdock in his tail I spray with Show 
Sheen and brush and handpick. I also use Cowboy Magic after a shampoo. His 
tail is so thick and full that it sometimes takes 1/2 an hour to get it 
untangled but he loves being primped. 
I have never had a Fjord object to having his/her tail handled and when I am 
starting them in harness I make a point of gently holding the entire tail 
straight up and out of the way. In the beginning some have tried to clamp 
their tails down but I have found that if you gently prevent them from doing 
this they eventually give in and relax. This makes it so much easier to put 
the crupper on and make sure that all those little short hairs are free from 
being stuck under the crupper which I imagine could become quite annoying if 
not down right uncomfortable. Having a horse who will let you push his tail 
up and out of the way also makes taking their temperatures much easier.
When doing mane trims I always brush out their tails and bang the bottom as 
handpicking is way too time consuming for a barn full. Haven't read Carol's 
book so don't have a clue as to why she doesn't brush tails except maybe 
because it does breaks the hairs off. Most of my Fjords have pretty lavish 
tails and losing some hair now and again isn't quite the disaster it might be 
in other breeds. I am always grateful that I don't have to pull their tails 
as is the norm in  ridden eventing. 
Vivian Creigh