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This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are so very welcome. Reena -Original Message- From: jean gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Toeing in.. This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thank you Reena for the support. Jean Gayle This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is in response to what Jean Ernest wrote: Beauty is as beauty does! So what if he toes in , if he can do what you want and stay sound? I agree with Jean. If the horse has the personality and the temperament you are looking for, then go for it. Those are the two most determing(sp?) factors to me in choosing a horse Reena Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thank you Reena for the support. Jean Gayle This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is in response to what Jean Ernest wrote: Beauty is as beauty does! So what if he toes in , if he can do what you want and stay sound? I agree with Jean. If the horse has the personality and the temperament you are looking for, then go for it. Those are the two most determing(sp?) factors to me in choosing a horse Reena Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is in response to what Jean Ernest wrote: Beauty is as beauty does! So what if he toes in , if he can do what you want and stay sound? I agree whole heartily My mare was extremely toed out, but she won all kinds of Welsh Pony titles and state championships, so her being off in conformation didn't matter. She had a fantastic temperament and great movement. When she die, she was sound, so her leg conformation really had nothing to do with it. I agree with Jean. If the horse has the personality and the temperament you are looking for, then go for it. Those are the two most determing(sp?) factors to me in choosing a horse Reena
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) You are a gem Jean of Alaska and thanks for you words of wisdom. Jean of the 101 of rain country. T Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: toeing in
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean in Washington: Beauty is as beauty does! So what if he toes in , if he can do what you want and stay sound? You're not going to breed him, or try to win halter classes. And personality and temperment are probably the most important quality to consider after soundness. After all the most perfectly conformed horse, if he doesn't want to cooperate with you or do anything isn't much use. I seem to remember reading that Hilda Gurney's Grand Prix champion dressage horse Keen had really rather poor conformation and a lot of faults conformation-wise. And yet he went on to the highest levels. I would say conformation is very important when you are breeding, and it should be considered in a performance horse in so far as being able easily to do what you want him to do and stay sound, but beyond that, go for the personality! At 07:02 PM 1/7/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thanks Jean of Alaska, this horse that i am buying toes in in all four but goes quite well over jumps etc. -- It is amazing how well he jumps. He has a very nice trot too. This fellow has a personality that lights up the barn and manners to boot so what is a small defect at his age and mine. Jean Gayle ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Thanks Jean of Alaska, this horse that i am buying toes in in all four but goes quite well over jumps etc. He has not had proper care of the feet recently so I think we can improve some of this with proper trimming, slowly. It is amazing how well he jumps. He has a very nice trot too. Will try and pick up the books you speak of. I remember when I first was buying a horse how shocked I was to find that all horses are not perfect. This fellow has a personality that lights up the barn and manners to boot so what is a small defect at his age and mine. Jean Gayle This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Toeing in is a conformational defect and some Fjords do, and consequently do paddle. I think it would be more common with the drafty wide chested fjords. My friends here in Fairbanks have one who toes in slightly. None of mine do. My mare Stella, who is a bit base narrow, toes out slightly. I would guess it would be preferable to toe in slightly and paddle, rather than toe out too much and wing and the front feet swing in to hit the opposite leg. Quite often it is the really broad chested horse who will toe in. Foals naturally toe out until their chest broadens enough. The correct comformation would have the hind feet toeing out slightly. Check out Dr. Deb Bennett's Principles of conformational Analysis published by Fleet Street which publishes EQUUS magazine. to quote Dr. Bennett: Two conditions must be met for a horse's hind limb to be correctly conformed in rear view: (1) Stifle, hock and fetlock joints must all lie in a single plane: (2) that plane must be sufficiently oblique to the midline of the body to permit the stifles to clear the belly when the hind limb swings forward. If the horse is round-barreled and short-coupled, the plane must be quite oblique, whereas if the horse is flat-ribbled and long coupled it can be nearly parallel to the midline of the body. Having the hind feet toe out slightly does NOT mean the horse is cowhocked if the cannons are parallel. Some farriers will trim the hind feet so they point straight forward which will throw the whole hind limb out of whack. I highly recommend Dr. Deb Bennett's booklets, 3 paperback volumes entitled PRINCIPLES OF CONFORMATIONAL ANALYSIS published by Fleet Street. These little volumes will help you see and understand how a horse is put together and how conformation affects movement and function. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the sun set a half hour ago (3:10 PM) but it is still light out for another hour or so. Still -30 F (my friends out the road had -42 this morning) At 12:07 PM 1/6/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Does anyone see the fjord as toeing in front and back? I have always thought the front hooves are on the wrong legs but understood that as draft horses this is common. Jean Gayle in Washington where it is 44deg and raining. Ugh Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline ** Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Does anyone see the fjord as toeing in front and back? I have always thought the front hooves are on the wrong legs but understood that as draft horses this is common. Jean Gayle in Washington where it is 44deg and raining. Ugh Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
