more treeless saddle
This message is from: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@comcast.net I have fortunately not had a buck from Gaven, so can't say how the saddle would stick. I have a breast collar to help keep it in place on trails. So far we've had no spooks, though we have had a spin or two... Seems to do fine. The treed saddle I was using initially would NOT stay up, but it might have just been ill-fitting on her. I had two main reasons for going with a treeless - less weight, and wider fit options (for her weight changes). Robyn Kevlin Be who you are, because the people who matter don't care and the people who care don't matter. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: Steve Sessoms ssess...@charter.net I have a Barefoot treeless saddle and I love mine. I use a Grandeur pad with it, with or without a Mayatex saddle blanket, and I won't go out on the trail without a breastplate. I started using the Mayatex under the Grandeur when I became concerned about keeping some wool between my horse and the foam cell in the Grandeur on long hot rides. I think the breastplate is the key to keeping it from slipping. Since I started using a breastplate I have had no slippage problems. Before I got one, saddle slipping was a problem on my round-backed Anjee. I think you also have to be especially vigilant not to mount up without a mounting block with a treeless. If you do have to mount without a block, be sure to lift with your weight as close to the horse as possible until you can put your balance in the middle so as not to shift the saddle. Meredith Sessoms Moulton AL ~ Dorina, Sollyskur, NFR Aagot, TK Anjanette, and baby boy TK Arlo ~ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: Lori Lemley lori.lem...@gmail.com I use treeless saddles (a Bob Marshall, a Nickers Sensation and a Ghost) on my two Fjord mares. The best things I have found to prevent slipping are adding a Y-type breastplate and a crupper. The extra straps are a bit of a hassle to fiddle with, but they keep the saddle in place nicely, not just side-to-side, but also front-to-back, and they allow you to go with the girth a bit looser. If you have a *really* round horse, breeching will work even better than a crupper. Sometimes you can use the breeching from your driving harness, if you have one. I have found these measures to work better than any sort of non-slip pad, though a pad would certainly be a more elegant solution if you can find one that works for you. Good luck! Lori Lemley Little Rock, Arkansas Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: Cherie Mascis vikinghorseri...@bellsouth.net I've found that the pads with real wool or wool felt keep the treeless saddles from slipping, but a breast collar is also a good idea because if the saddle does pull sideways it can't get all the way underneath. Cherie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: treeless saddle slipping -solutions
This message is from: Sharon s_obri...@verizon.net Hi Rachel, but on a long ride if Lily gets a bit hot, or when doing more energetic things than usual, it slips badly. Has anyone got a solution to this? I did 2 things to stop my saddle from slipping. Different saddle pad, different girth. 1. Saddle pad- After trying all sorts of saddle pads (skito, dixie midnight, tacky-too) with my Bob Marshall treeless and my round mare, I have found one combination I'm much more secure with. It's a simple 1/2 felt pad I attached to the underside of my tacky-too pad. I was careful to make sure the felt pad didn't go over the spine and possibly press down. It stopped 1-2 short of the underside center of the tacky-too, making a slight buildup for spinal clearance. Whenever I remove the saddle, she has a 1-2' strip of dry hair down her spine. Perfect! The saddle 'sticks' to the top of the tacky-too and the underside is absorbent and not slippery for the horse. If you want to use just a felt pad, that's fine too. I didn't want my pricy tacky-too to just sit in the tack room, so I actually opened up the front seam, attached some velcro, inserted 1/2 of neoprene for padding in the pocket (copied the shape of the skito insert), stuck the velcro together and then attached the felt pad to the underside with a needle and upholstery thread. Grandeur makes a pad very similar to what I made up. http://www.actionridertack.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=149_159produc ts_id=1390 or in Europe http://www.grandeur.de/en_shop/e_site.php?id=41 2. Girth- The other half of what I did is to switch from a too hot, uncomfortable neoprene girth, to a mohair girth (not rayon which is slippery, but true mohair). Specifically a roper's girth, which is @ 6-7 wider in the center and narrows to @ 3 at each end. This keeps the belly cool, and the saddle extra stable and very secure from slipping. I mount from the ground and it's good. here's a link with a few to look at http://www.mysimon.com/9000-11034_8-0.html?sdcq=keyword-mohair+cinch Maybe either of these or both can work for you. good luck, Sharon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Treeless saddle
This message is from: Rachel Huson dabchic...@yahoo.co.uk I have been using a Barefoot treeless saddle on Lily, my fjord mare, for over a year now, and we love it -both of us- but on a long ride if Lily gets a bit hot, or when doing more energetic things than usual, it slips badly. Has anyone got a solution to this? -It really is a mega problem - last week I ended up sitting on top (just) with the saddle almost underneath her just because we had a slight difference of opinion on a steep slope. I have heard of a Limpet Pad -has anyone used one? I would love to hear others' experiences / opinions Rachel (Worcestershire, UK) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: Heather Baskey cavy_l...@yahoo.com What saddle pad are you using with it? Heather From: Rachel Huson dabchic...@yahoo.co.uk on a long ride if Lily gets a bit hot, or when doing more energetic things than usual, it slips badly. Has anyone got a solution to this? -It really is a mega problem __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: katesei...@aol.com In a message dated 7/16/2009 3:58:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dabchic...@yahoo.co.uk writes: on a long ride if Lily gets a bit hot, or when doing more energetic things than usual, it slips badly. We have ridden with a Barefoot for years and only had it slip when trying to mount from the ground and taking too long!! We used a Skito pad with it. I eventually stopped using it because I could not stand the stirrup placement, but otherwise loved it. Kate with Joe, Della, and Hanna **Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove0001) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: Heather Baskey cavy_l...@yahoo.com The new Barefoot Lexington model (coming out Sep 09) apparently has adjustable stirrup placement (I am taking alot of people commented they didn't get proper leg placement - common complaint). It will be interesting to hear the reviews on their latest improved model. Heather From: katesei...@aol.com katesei...@aol.com I eventually stopped using it because I could not stand the stirrup placement, but otherwise loved it. Kate with Joe, Della, and Hanna __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: Steve Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have experience with a Sydney Saddleworks treeless saddle. I have a chance to get a new one at a really good cost and just want to make sure it's worth it. I know the Hillason ones are not the greatest according to what I've heard, and know probably the Barefoot, Torsion and Bob Marshall are much better, but the price tags on those three so far are a bit high. My friend has the Bob Marshall and swears by it, but he went all out and paid over $1,500 for his. I'd rather not spend that much. Let me know your thoughts. ` I bought a Barefoot Ocean's Blue last summer. Dorina and I love it! It was under $1000 brand new from Lori's Tack on the web and she was great to work with. I just wish my husband was lightweight enough to use one too. Meredith Sessoms ~ Dorina, NFR Aagot, Anjee, Arlo and Pepper, the black one ~ Moulton Alabama USA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have experience with a Sydney Saddleworks treeless saddle. I have a chance to get a new one at a really good cost and just want to make sure it's worth it. I know the Hillason ones are not the greatest according to what I've heard, and know probably the Barefoot, Torsion and Bob Marshall are much better, but the price tags on those three so far are a bit high. My friend has the Bob Marshall and swears by it, but he went all out and paid over $1,500 for his. I'd rather not spend that much. Let me know your thoughts. I always find that those who ride are much better judges than the seller of the products. Thanks for any info. Rosemary Shome Fjords Sent via the WebMail system at cmnt1.c-magic.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List: I have no experience with Sydney Saddleworksbut I would like to take this opportunity to say that I have a brand new, never ridden in, 16 TexTan pleasure/trail saddle with a flex tree, round skirt, and extra wide bars, that I would like to sell. It is a little bit too tight for my fjord just behind her shoulders; otherwise it would work. The MSRP is $1650. I will sell for $995 + shipping/insurance costs. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested or would like to see a photo. thanks, Melinda near Columbus Ohioeagerly waiting another saddle so I can ride my first fjord: Mirakel. PS: I have really been enjoying all the stories about trail rides and the funny/remarkable things our horses do. * On 11/29/06, dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have experience with a Sydney Saddleworks treeless saddle. I have a chance to get a new one at a really good cost and just want to make sure it's worth it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Melinda, I have no experience with the Sydney Saddleworks saddle. My fluffy Fjord likes the Free Form treeless saddle better than the Bob Marshall and the Cashel neoperene saddle. She is very drafty, and when I started riding her, it felt like riding a table top. My thighs were literally straight out - my legs got numb! The Free Form has a seat with a little twist so you don't have to be a gymnast to ride in it. It also fits all of my other horses and I have 2 of the interchangeable seats so that my niece can use it too if she wants to. Now my fjord is a little less fluffy because she gets more exercise and her back is not so wide - AND the saddle still fits so I don't have to buy a new one. Lola On 11/29/06, Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List: I have no experience with Sydney Saddleworksbut I would like to take this opportunity to say that I have a brand new, never ridden in, 16 TexTan pleasure/trail saddle with a flex tree, round skirt, and extra wide bars, that I would like to sell. It is a little bit too tight for my fjord just behind her shoulders; otherwise it would work. The MSRP is $1650. I will sell for $995 + shipping/insurance costs. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested or would like to see a photo. thanks, Melinda near Columbus Ohioeagerly waiting another saddle so I can ride my first fjord: Mirakel. PS: I have really been enjoying all the stories about trail rides and the funny/remarkable things our horses do. * On 11/29/06, dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have experience with a Sydney Saddleworks treeless saddle. I have a chance to get a new one at a really good cost and just want to make sure it's worth it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: wendee berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many ( if not all) Sydney saddlework saddles are made in India so you will want to make sure where the saddle was manufactured before making your purchase. There is a really good group-list for treeless saddles on yahoo. Recently there have been extensive discussions about the Hilason treeless saddles being sold on e-bay which are a great price but also made in India. I suggest you join the list and look back through the archives then ask if anyone knows about these saddles. On 11/29/06, dfle wrote: Does anyone have experience with a Sydney Saddleworks treeless saddle. I have a chance to get a new one at a really good cost and just want to make sure it's worth it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: Stephanie McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may get some opinions on the treeless yahoo group. Also, know someone is selling a sensation treeless on there for $625...just a thought. Stephanie in NE Ohio Ceili and Trygg (who thinks he's in Haiwaii after living in extreme NE Minnesota!) - Original Message From: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:11:31 PM Subject: Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Melinda, I have no experience with the Sydney Saddleworks saddle. My fluffy Fjord likes the Free Form treeless saddle better than the Bob Marshall and the Cashel neoperene saddle. She is very drafty, and when I started riding her, it felt like riding a table top. My thighs were literally straight out - my legs got numb! The Free Form has a seat with a little twist so you don't have to be a gymnast to ride in it. It also fits all of my other horses and I have 2 of the interchangeable seats so that my niece can use it too if she wants to. Now my fjord is a little less fluffy because she gets more exercise and her back is not so wide - AND the saddle still fits so I don't have to buy a new one. Lola On 11/29/06, Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Melinda Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List: I have no experience with Sydney Saddleworksbut I would like to take this opportunity to say that I have a brand new, never ridden in, 16 TexTan pleasure/trail saddle with a flex tree, round skirt, and extra wide bars, that I would like to sell. It is a little bit too tight for my fjord just behind her shoulders; otherwise it would work. The MSRP is $1650. I will sell for $995 + shipping/insurance costs. Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested or would like to see a photo. thanks, Melinda near Columbus Ohioeagerly waiting another saddle so I can ride my first fjord: Mirakel. PS: I have really been enjoying all the stories about trail rides and the funny/remarkable things our horses do. * On 11/29/06, dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: dfle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have experience with a Sydney Saddleworks treeless saddle. I have a chance to get a new one at a really good cost and just want to make sure it's worth it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw _ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may get some opinions on the treeless yahoo group. Also, know someone is selling a sensation treeless on there for $625...just a thought. The Sensation is an awesome treless saddle, it fits both my Fjord and Icelandic. Cherie NC The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Re: Treeless Saddle Sydney Saddleworks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may get some opinions on the treeless yahoo group. Also, know someone is selling a sensation treeless on there for $625...just a thought. The Sensation is an awesome treless saddle, it fits both my Fjord and Icelandic. Cherie NC The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
treeless saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Cherie, I don't mean the Bearfoot one. That one doesn't seem to have as deep a seat and not as much selection. It is also over a $1000. I am trying to keep the cost of this saddle down and I am looking for a deep seat. The frontier equestrian is a very deep seat. In fact they have a couple of new models that Brad is sending me a picture of. 71/2 inches deep instead of 6. I think 6 is plenty. They also have pummel sizes from 6 to 10 inches. That should eliminate the sores under the pummel that some are experiencing because the pummels are so hard. Should eliminate any pinching which might be the reason a few people have experienced their horse bucking with a treeless saddle. Would love to hear what your friend thinks, when she gets hers. Onna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: treeless saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone may have already commented about the Bob Marshall. I've had mine for years and done all sorts of riding in it them, with great results. They are comfortable, fit Fjords (and most other horses with the exception of really bony/high withered ones), and stay put. They look normal so can be used in show, etc., without too much notice. I have a western and an endurance model. Brigid PS: I too have the Bob Marshall treeless saddle and it fits my fjord gelding just fine, even with him being chunky. I have also used it on my arab which makes it nice for me. Rondi Tyler. So. Calif. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: treeless saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/6/2006 10:16:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS: I too have the Bob Marshall treeless saddle and it fits my fjord gelding just fine, even with him being chunky. I have also used it on my arab which makes it nice for me. Hi Rondi- Yeah, it's funny how it can fit such different horses. When my Arab-riding friend was shopping for a saddle, she laughed when I suggested she try mine. She couldn't believe it would fit my big boys and her trim critter. It did, and she ordered one for herself! The custom-ordering really helped her because she is pint-sized and previously always felt like she was wearing someone else's clothes riding in standard size saddles. She got a 14 seat and youth-cut seat jockeys (I think is the word?). Brigid The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
treeless saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am still checking into the various treeless saddles. Anyone have any experience or knowledge of the treeless saddle made by Sydney Saddle works? They are located in Jasper, MO. Onna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: treeless saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am still checking into the various treeless saddles. Anyone have any experience or knowledge of the treeless saddle made by Sydney Saddle works? If you're talking about the western one, my friend on the Icehorses list just ordered one, she's an engineer and very anal, so once she analyzes it, I can let you know what she thinks! I have a fjord, so I can try it on mine. If you're talking about the one that looks like a Barefoot saddle, she said that one was pretty well-made for the money but too long for an Icelandic's back (may fit a Fjord though)! Cherie The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: treeless saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Onna- Someone may have already commented about the Bob Marshall. I've had mine for years and done all sorts of riding in it them, with great results. They are comfortable, fit Fjords (and most other horses with the exception of really bony/high withered ones), and stay put. They look normal so can be used in show, etc., without too much notice. I have a western and an endurance model. Brigid The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: trail riding brag alert/treeless saddle report
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, now time for my brag alert! Tommes I enjoyed a ride with the local group called Los Viajeros. I was very excited to go, as it's invitation-only and someone has to sponsor you. Membership is limited and you your horse must prove yourself to be very trail safe, as groups can number up to 70!! Got up early Sunday morning, made coffee, off to the ranch. Loaded up Tommes and gear. Drove to the Skyline Ridge Open Space Preserve. Not a long drive, but very narrow windy roads. I arrived just in time to grab two donuts, listen to the pre-ride briefing, and saddle up! There were over 40 riders with all kinds of breeds, including Tenessee Walkers, Appaloosas and a Peruvian Paso. At first we had a hard time keeping up. Tommes, as a seasoned trail horse, knows how to pace himself. He knows we'll be out for a while, and goes into a steady walk. So many of the others were dancing around tossing their heads that the pace quickened considerably. So we had to walk-trot-walk-trot to catch up : / In any case I was proud of him for being so steady. After two hours of riding over beautiful terrain, we stopped for lunch at a member's house. We got many complements and questions. Several folks thought he was an Icelandic, and do I dye the mane? LOL. Thank God by the time we resumed riding the other horses had tired, and most walked as they should so we were more towards the front of the line! It was about an hour back to the trailers, where Tommes enjoyed a rubdown. As some of you know I have been saddle shopping, and decided on a Bob Marshall Treeless Sport Saddle. Well, I've used it a number of times at home, but this was the ultimate test. I have to say it passed with flying colors. Even after hours of riding over rough terrain, I don't feel as if I've ridden at all. The lack of tree puts me right on the horse's back, just like bareback, but the pommel, cantle stirrups keep me firmly in place. I love the lowered center of gravity, and resulting better balance. When I remove the saddle after a ride, the sweat marks tell the story. Nice even sweat over the whole saddle area, no dry spots or ruffled fur, and a nice dry line right over the spine so no pressure there. Hurray! After two years I've found something that works for both of us. Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords /A
Re: Treeless Saddle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone also posted about an Icelandic Saddle. Is this along the same lines? I think I would have to try it first...though the idea of a treeless saddle is appealing. Kate
Treeless Saddle
This message is from: Paula Steinmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:28:17 -0800 From: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Treeless saddles This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, Great discussion lately. Last weekend Paula talked about a treeless saddle called ansur. Did you get to try one? If you did how was it? Has anyone out there had any experience with treeless saddles? Alison- Yep - got to try the Ansur saddle. I liked it, but I wasn't wowed by it - I don't think I'll be trading in my dressage saddle anytime soon! I think it would be great for someone schooling several horses with different conformations - for instance a trainer or a catch rider. The feel was something like a traditional saddle, but not quite. More like a structured bareback pad, but not quite. I thought the bars - actually these are rings (that's why a safety stirrup is necessary!) for the stirrups were a little far back - maybe an inch - I think for most Fjords this would be true (on a short back your leg would not feel in the right position, mine didn't). Nice feel and contact with the horse - very similar to a built up bareback pad and similar stability. If you are looking for a saddle to hold you, this is NOT the one! I'd want something a little more substantial for rough terrain in any event. At $1800, I expected the workmanship to be really fine - it wasn't. I'd give this one a B. Maybe I should've called this post not quite ;o)
