breed recognition

2003-11-12 Thread Danielle Campbell
This message is from: Danielle Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you very much for all your help and I do appreciate it. My comment
about the breed recognition wasnt meant as a critism but as a suggestion
and I hope I didnt offend anyone. As someone else said the booth was
always crowded and the volenteers were very helpful. I did see the other
fjords in the breed demo which I thought was wonderful and the kids were
awesome! When I mentioned that I wished the other fjords were housed in c
barn it for my own love of fjords and I just love to see them !! Also
after talking to my trainer who went by the both on saturday, I think she
told me that Rosa was at the booth that day. Rosa is a very flashy girl
and I bet she caused quite a stir!

I know that because of all the critism here lately that some people are a
bit upset and I would be too but please do not be offended on what I said
because that was not my intention at all..

Danielle



Re: Fjord advertising and breed recognition

2003-11-11 Thread jgayle
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Vicky, You may have seen my Howdy on the draft page, or one of them. I was
asked to put a picture of him, I was riding him, in when they first set up
the site.  That was seven or eight years ago! He is dead now after some bad
vetting, but it would be nice to know he had reached someone about the
beauty of the fjord.   Jean G







Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946-49
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Fjord advertising and breed recognition

2003-11-11 Thread Vicki Tony Johnston
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I've followed the discussion on advertising with much interest.  I've 
recently become a Fjord owner after searching for the perfect, versatile 
horse for 2-3 years.  I've been involved with horses through my 
husband's family for twenty years.  I've gone to horse shows with 
friends, and endurance rides with family for years.  I have read Western 
Horseman, Equus, Horse  Rider, Perfect Horse and Horse Journal for many 
years.  My radar did not find the Fjord until relatively recently.  
About 1-2 years ago, I asked my vet to examine an Appendix Quarter Horse 
that had a wonderful disposition.  I was worried about his feet, and my 
vet determined that his feet did, in fact, make this lovely horse 
unsuitable for my needs.  My vet suggested that I should be considering 
a draft horse since I wanted a horse with a calm and steady temperament 
that could physically handle rugged terrain in the event that we are 
able to return to Montana where we lived for 5 years.

I'll admit that I was unsure of his advice, since I am intimidated by 
very large horses.  But, I surfed the draft and driving horse web sites 
and that is where I first noticed the Norwegian Fjord.  A short horse 
that is sturdy enough for me!!  Then, I began checking out every Fjord 
site I could find.  I had trouble finding an older Fjord close to home 
that was for sale.  I was also weary from many long drives over the past 
many months to check out horses of other breeds that were never quite 
what I was expecting to find.  Then, on a trip to Montana last year, I 
noticed a pasture full of Fjords that hadn't been there on my previous 
visit.  After knocking on a few doors and wandering around, I located 
the owner and asked permission to go into the pasture to see his 
horses.  He cheerfully agreed after warning me that I would be 
surrounded by some very big dogs all wanting to be petted.  He was 
right.  What a treat!!!  They all ran up and stopped together right in 
front of me and looked at me expectantly as if to say Well???  You're 
here --- now what???.  I enjoyed petting everybody and they all would 
have stood there all day to be petted I think.

They were BIG, and I was worried about the size.  But, they were draft 
types, and I hadn't yet seen a sporthorse type.  I could go on and on 
(sorry!), but I found my handsome, quiet, level-headed guy.  He's 14 hh 
and is quite sporty!  Yet way more sturdy than my husband's Arab who 
used to be the shortest horse on our place!  And the best and biggest 
feet of anybody here!  And when Arabs and my Bashkir Curly get nervous, 
he just looks at them and says You're not seriously worried about that 
for real are you??!!  And when he does get startled, it's relatively 
brief, and he shakes it off easily.  The rest of this crew just can't 
let things go.  They worry.  So, needless to say, I'm very pleased.  
And, I do think that more advertising would bring these wonderful Fjords 
to the attention of more buyers looking for horses with their special 
and unique qualities.

Vicki Johnston
Mims, Florida



Re: breed recognition

2003-11-11 Thread HapDayBMF
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In a message dated 11/10/03 2:02:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  From: Danielle Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: new member /breed recognition
 
 . As much as I did enjoy seeing
  the mare and baby at the booth I was surprised that the chosen fjord wasnt
  flashier such as a stallion or one of the less known colors like the
  gray. dont get me wrong, I thought Rosita is a beautiful mare but showing
  a flashier type would have helped to show off the breed . . .
 

Hello Danielle, 
First let me say, you were not alone on this thought.  Then let me say 
having 8 fjords of my own, that I'm just glad SOMEONE was willing to take the 
time to do this. It is sometimes hard to get people to help out at these 
events, 
and though I don't know why this horse was chosen to represent the breed, 
when they have other fjords to choose from, I do APPRECIATE them doing what 
they 
did do. Thank you Sue and Richard, and everyone else involved.
It is hard this time of year, with winter coming quickly to New England, to 
have any fjord looking sleek and flashy - IMHO :)  
I did notice other breeds did represent, in the show barn, the diversity in 
sizes and colors, and did think it would have been nice to see some of that 
with our fjords.  Againit takes volunteers and if I'm not willing to take 
the 
time to do itI guess I shouldn't criticize those that did.

I did have another reply to something Carol Rivoire wrote last week about the 
Gypsy horses.  I saw lots of those there at the Equine Affair, and would like 
to comment that I saw many being riddenand ridden well :)   Though I do 
agree with most of what she said about that breed. :)

Aimee Day
Garland Me.



Re: Breed Recognition - Promotion

2003-11-09 Thread Arthur Rivoire
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Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -

 From: Danielle Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: new member /breed recognition

. As much as I did enjoy seeing
 the mare and baby at the booth I was surprised that the chosen fjord wasnt
 flashier such as a stallion or one of the less known colors like the
 gray. dont get me wrong, I thought Rosita is a beautiful mare but showing
 a flashier type would have helped to show off the breed . . .
~
Danielle's post  was interesting, and I suggest the
Promotion Committee, or PEP committee think about it.  (what does PEP mean
anyway? - Promotion, Education  . . . ? )

As Danielle  said, Rosita is a beautiful mare, but she's  23 years old, and
she's
had a huge number of foals -- 

If we want to promote Fjords as competition horses, then we
should be showcasing competition horses. ---  Young Fjords of the highest
quality, and in the peak of condition.  -  The Knock Your Socks Off kind
of Fjord.

Perhaps the PEP committee could have guidlines for Fjord groups doing the
bigger equine events  -- 
These expos are  Trade Fairs.  The purpose is to introduce and sell
equine products.  And when trying to sell a product, your samples have to be
eye-catching, and represent the best you have to offer.

This is all part and parcel of BREED PROMOTION.  We need more of it, but
there has to be a focus on what we want to promote.  --  That question could
be open to a lot of discussion, but for now, in order to get moving, perhaps
everyone would agree that the Fjord should be presented and promoted as a
QUALITY HORSE.  --  And if there's any question about what that is and what
it looks like, just thumb through any of the well-known magazines.  Study
what other breeds are doing.  --  They're showing  gleaming, trained, fit
horses with a lot of presence! -  These are the images and the breeds we're
competing against.  Can we compete?

Kind Regards,  Carol Rivoire





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Re: new member /breed recognition

2003-11-09 Thread Warren Stockwell
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HERE HERE !!! Should have the judges card pulled!!! Children should be
educated not persecuted.

Roberta
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From: Skeels, Mark A (MED) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: new member /breed recognition


 This message is from: Skeels, Mark A (MED) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm sorry,I don't usually talk up much, but as far as I'm concerned any
 Judge that made a remark like that should be immediately, automatically,
 disqualified from the event and a new non-biased Judge should be found,
 ASAP, hold the show, even if they are a novice judge, better than a
 biased one. I don't have much tolerance for bigots or bigotry.
 Especially when they belittle young children.

 Or bigoted instructors either, get another one. That's why Parelli is
 good, get your work book and go through the training yourself step by
 step and don't have to deal with anyone until show time, then show your
 horse to the best of your ability and have fun.

 Just my 2 cents.
 Mark Skeels

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danielle
 Campbell
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:07 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: new member /breed recognition


 This message is from: Danielle Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 One a different  vent has anyone else have to deal with ignorant people
 or
 worse judges asking if its true that fjords are lazy and stubborn. at a
 show one of the kids was asked this by a judge and the poor girl tried
 to
 defend her pony while the judge laughed! When asked this question by a
 snobby instructor I replied laughing! Lazy!!

 Danielle
 mother to

 Emma (5 months, daughter)
 Gwen (2 year old fjord)
 Rosie(mini shetland,sweet old girl who's gwen's best friend)
 Sebastain and Rexi(the cats)



RE: new member /breed recognition

2003-11-09 Thread Skeels, Mark A (MED)
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A (MED) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm sorry,I don't usually talk up much, but as far as I'm concerned any
Judge that made a remark like that should be immediately, automatically,
disqualified from the event and a new non-biased Judge should be found,
ASAP, hold the show, even if they are a novice judge, better than a
biased one. I don't have much tolerance for bigots or bigotry.
Especially when they belittle young children.
 
Or bigoted instructors either, get another one. That's why Parelli is
good, get your work book and go through the training yourself step by
step and don't have to deal with anyone until show time, then show your
horse to the best of your ability and have fun.

Just my 2 cents.
Mark Skeels

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danielle
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: new member /breed recognition


This message is from: Danielle Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]


One a different  vent has anyone else have to deal with ignorant people
or
worse judges asking if its true that fjords are lazy and stubborn. at a
show one of the kids was asked this by a judge and the poor girl tried
to
defend her pony while the judge laughed! When asked this question by a
snobby instructor I replied laughing! Lazy!!

Danielle
mother to

Emma (5 months, daughter)
Gwen (2 year old fjord)
Rosie(mini shetland,sweet old girl who's gwen's best friend)
Sebastain and Rexi(the cats)