Re: carts and bits

1999-10-19 Thread Lori Albrough
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Carl and Sarah Nagel wrote:
 ...   She has a problem with putting her tongue over the
 bit and then getting very upset about that.   

I would try her in a Glory Butterfly bit - the mullen mouthpiece curves
slightly up away from the tongue. She maybe getting her tongue over the bit
in trying to evade too much tongue pressure. The Glory may solve this. I
ordered mine from Ray Johnson, Glory Metal Works, 603-726-3766

Lori



Re: carts and bits

1999-10-18 Thread Jean Ernest
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At 09:46 PM 10/18/1999 -0700, you wrote:
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To the gal who said she is using a high port, that surprises me as fjords
classically have shallow pallets.

Jean, altho she said it has a high port, the Glory bit doesn't have a high
port but has a curved mullen mouth angled at a certain way to give some
tongue relief..Maybe this is what she meant.  All of the Glory bits have
the same curved mullen mouth, developd by Ray Johnson for his morgans with
shallow pallets also. 

Jean in Fairbanks, where we're expecting more snow..Hope we get a foot
before it stops, we need the insulation to keep the frost from goin too
deep! 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: carts and bits

1999-10-18 Thread Jean Gayle
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Sarah by the time I got on line you probably have your answer to your horse
putting her tongue over the bit.  One, is the bit in tight enough to see at
least two wrinkles at the corner of the mouth.  Two there is what is called
a tongue lollering bit that has a flat blade about three to four inches
across and five inches long that swings on the mouth piece.  They can not
get their tongues over it..

To the gal who said she is using a high port, that surprises me as fjords
classically have shallow pallets.


Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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re: carts and bits

1999-10-18 Thread Carl and Sarah Nagel
This message is from: Carl and Sarah Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
from: Tish Pasqual [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We purchased an easy entry cart, cost $495 plus $100 for shipping.   We
also got sleigh runners for it, I'll let you know how those work out this
winter!  We bought it from Waggoners, they are on-line and very nice to deal
with.

The driving bit I am using is a Glory bit, which is raved about by lots of
folks on the Carriage Driving list.  It has a mullen (curved) mouth and a
high port, which some folks say suits the Fjords (and others) very well for
driving.

Tish,

We were wondering about the website for Waggoners ... please post it if you
have it handy.   Also, approximately what is the cost for a Glory bit (and
where do you get one?) and what is working so well about it?

I have a 4 year old that has JUST begun her ground driving and riding
training -- we purchased her about 1 month ago and she has been at a
trainers for this time.   She has a problem with putting her tongue over the
bit and then getting very upset about that.   If we stop driving or dismount
from riding and help her, she allows us to lift the bit and she puts her
tongue back underneath and then we go along until the next episode.

We have tried a large ring snaffle, a full cheek snaffle,  a training
snaffle bit with shanks, a military style straight bit and a rubber driving
bit and so far we are still experiencing the tongue problem.  Any
suggestions from you or others on the list would be greatly appreciated!
I'm going to look for a hackamore tommorrow and try that out next.  But I
still need to know how to proceed and with what bits after we try the
hackamore.

Other than this problem, she is doing really well and shows lots of
potential (of course, she's a Fjord!!!)

Thanks very much!!

Sarah Nagel in Idaho with Ori, Lara and Sonny