Re: electric fence help

2001-02-12 Thread Jon & Mary Ofjord
This message is from: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>
>What do you do when the electric fence is buried under the snow.  I haven't
>tested mine yet but I can't believe that there is much "zap" left.  >Mark
>
Mark,
First you need to move to the less snow side of the Big Lake. If that won't
work then you might find that your fence is putting out more than you
thought. That depends on the kind of charger you have and the moisture
content of the snow. I have one area that is completely buried (4 feet
plus) and the current is still fine. Just powering the top wire in winter
also helps.

Jon





Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Remi2442
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 02/11/2001 11:36:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We raised the bottom wire after the "big snow" in December so the fence 
wouldn't loose it's "zap"and raised the top wire in the process to 
increase the height of the fence.   The little rotter does attempt to crawl 
under the bottom wire!!  Jonthanks for that grounding tip but we have 
already run that ground wire under the top wire.  Did that we put the new 
fencer in in December right from the get goand he respected - until this 
week.  

Spend the entire morning rewiring, grounding and testing.  I have good power 
in the wires.  When I took a close look at the fence line, on both sides of 
the fence, it appeared as though alot of "playing" or "picking" between 
Duster and the older Arab gelding next door might be the reason the fence 
gets knocked enough to loose power.  After the rewire job put the two boys 
together to see if the company for Duster might keep him out of mischief.  I 
know he's bored to deathcombine my bad case of bronchitis with the bitter 
cold, snowy, icy weather and he was pretty much left standing for the month 
of January.  At this point it's almost impossible to venture out of the barn 
to do anything however, would simple attention help to alleviate the boys 
boredom??? i.e. grooming etc.?? or do they really require more work to keep 
them happy and out of trouble!   
Thanks for the tips

Carol & Duster, who's "on probation" with his friend Brains babysitting






Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread BaldursMom
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When he walks through the fence does he have a blanket on?  These guys are 
really smart and will test the fence regularly to see if it's on.  So it 
could be that someone left it off by accident or that there was a weakness 
somewhere.  How many chargers does she have running the wire?  The more wire 
you have the more chargers you need.  Also, is it single strand or double?  
Is it the tape or the wire?  My horse will respect the actual wire, but will 
use his mane to insulate himself from the tape.  And from experience (getting 
shocked) the tape isn't always consistent.  I can touch one place one day and 
get zapped...touch the same place the next day and I can wrap my hands around 
the tape.

Good Luck!

Kate in CT
owned by Baldur the wonder fjord
graduate B pony clubber
MysticPonyClub egroups moderator
ARIA certified riding instructor






Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread truman matz
This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



>
>Againhe respected the fence and stayed put until this week.
.HELP I need suggestions fast!!! >
>8
Carol, I've heard that if you get the fence high enough that the horse can't
get his head over it, he can't push on it.  Of course, I guess if Duster is
determined enough, he could BACK through.  Might be worth a try, anyway.
Good luck.  Judy





Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Mariposa Farm
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Our electric fence is 5 wires -- the bottom wire was wired so we can turn it
> off once burried in snow - the others stay hot.

That's a great idea.

Mark






Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread HorseLotti
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Our electric fence is 5 wires -- the bottom wire was wired so we can turn it 
off once burried in snow - the others stay hot.




Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Alison Bakken
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Carol,

Your problem with the fence is that Duster is not getting shocked
because the ground is so insulated from the snow.  How far down is the
ground rod for the fence?  I have had to add two additional ground rods,
idea they should be driven so the bottom of the rod is below the frost
line.  The other thing you can do is run a ground wire below he hot wire
on your fence, that way when he touches both wire he will get bite. 
Hope this helps.

Alison 
in cold snowy Alberta




Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Carol a fence works a lot better if the horse is wearing shoes.  Believe me
that iron shoe really "grounds" them and you do not have to rebuild
anything.  Jean





Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores






Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Mariposa Farm
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Jon Ofjord wrote:

>
> If your horse is standing in snow he is probably not well grounded. His
> thick winter coat also helps insulate him.
>

Hi Jon,

What do you do when the electric fence is buried under the snow.  I haven't
tested mine yet but I can't believe that there is much "zap" left.  I'm
hoping that all the animals have good memories and think it's still hot.

Mark





Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Laurie Pittman
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Carol,

In addition to the added ground wire that Jon suggested, I'd also raise
the height of the fence to about 5 feet. My Tor was next to impossible to
keep in his paddock (read diet pen) in the spring. When he could no longer
pace the fence line with his head over the top, he quit breaking out. Hope
this helps.

Laurie





Re: electric fence help

2001-02-11 Thread Jon & Mary Ofjord
This message is from: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>know the current is strong.HELP I need suggestions fast!!! I'm
>in Michigan where the ground is frozen and we still have a lot of snow
>on the ground. 
>
>Caroland Duster on the s**t list in very cold Michigan
>
Carol
If your horse is standing in snow he is probably not well grounded. His
thick winter coat also helps insulate him. 
One way to help this situation is to run a grounded strand below (6"-12")
the top hot wire. If he touches both he will understand the fence again. 
>
Jon
>





electric fence help

2001-02-10 Thread owner-fjordhorse
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Listers,

I board my 2 1/2 year old fjord gelding, Prairie Duster, at a friends
barn. I have had Duster there since May. Her barn is surrounded by
paddocks fenced with electric wire fencing. Each horse has his own
stall and paddock and go in and out of the barn at free will. For the
first 6 months Duster respected the fence there was not one problem
with him breaking down fencinguntil December...when everyday he
was through the fence and visiting his neighbor.usually to eat her
hay, of course, leaving his untouched. We determined we needed a new
fencer so I replaced the old with one that sent a stronger current.
Againhe respected the fence and stayed put until this week. He has
walked through, torn down posts and generally been hell bent on
leaving his paddock for the one next door. We've tested the fence and
know the current is strong.HELP I need suggestions fast!!! I'm
in Michigan where the ground is frozen and we still have a lot of snow
on the ground. You active listers seemed to have experienced
everythingany suggestions??

Caroland Duster on the s**t list in very cold Michigan