Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #100

1999-07-05 Thread Carolyn Dumong
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> In a message dated 7/5/99 2:57:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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>  We are looking for ideas and input.  We are thinking of starting up a
>  boarding facility because there is a need for this in our area.  What we
>  would like to hear are any ideas or opinions regarding horse boarding
>  facilities.  If you board, what do you like or dislike about where you
>  board?  Do you have a contract with your facility?  What does your board
>  include?
>   >>
> I have boarded and trained outside horses for quite a few years.  I have
> learned a lot - mostly the hard way!  Here are some suggestions:
> 
> Only offer full care.  Partial care gets to be a real ROYAL PAIN!  I have
> tried to offer partial care in the past and it is more trouble than it's
> worth.  I like to have the stalls cleaned in my barn early in the morning
> everyday so that if someone 'stops by', the barn is clean and tidy.  With
> partial care, invariably someone has a reason why they couldn't come to clean
> their stall.  That means that sometime during the day, you have to interrupt
> your schedule to clean that stall.  I charged $2 extra each time I had to do
> their stall, but it was irritating.
> 
> Also with partial care, one needs a lot of extra room to store their hay and
> grain to keep it separate.  Then invariably, they run out of feed, even
> though they have been reminded.  You end up feeding yours and having to keep
> track of that.  When they finally do bring feed, it often is not of the same
> quality.
> 
> By offering only full care, I also have control of the quality and amount
> each horse is fed and know that their nutritional needs are being properly
> met.  Also, the horses are all fed at the same time.  It is quite upsetting
> for the horses to have someone coming to feed one or two horses at different
> times.
> 
> A written contract is a MUST.  You can lay all of the requirements in front
> of the folks, up front and in black and white.  I require each horse to
> comply with our schedule for innoculations so that we don't get a barnfull of
> sick horses.  We have horses that travel to shows, poker rides, etc., where
> they are exposed to large numbers of horses so I need to make sure everyone
> has current shots.  In our area we give 4-way, rhino, Potomac Fever, and
> nasal strangles.  The horses that travel get flu/rhino every 90 days.  The
> other shots are annual.  We also worm every 2 months.  I do all of the shots
> and worming myself and charge the boarders only the cost of the drugs.  It
> saves them money and I KNOW it has been done when it should be.
> 
> Another clause in my contract states that dogs are not welcome to come poop
> in my yard instead of yours!  There is nothing more irritating to have dogs
> jumping on people's cars, scratching the paint, or fighting with each other.
> 
> Another clause states that there will be NO UNATTENDED CHILDREN.  This is not
> a day care center where Mommy can come and play whilst "Johnny" is allowed to
> wander around and get himself into trouble.
> 
> You also must be very specific about when board is due!  I took my contracts
> to a lawyer to have him look them over and make recommendations.  I have a
> clause that says boarding bills are due on the first of the month.  If it is
> not paid by then, they will be charged 2% per day on the unpaid balance.  He
> raised his eyebrows at that!  I said, "Do I make myself clear that it had
> better be paid on time?!"  He added a blank space beside that paragraph for
> them to initial in case it should ever go to court.  That way they couldn't
> say they didn't read the contract carefully before signing.
> 
> Insurance is another issue that must be considered carefully.  One can go
> insurance broke when it comes to horses!  Our state has an 'inherant risk'
> law which says that if you are on this property you are considered a
> participant and must assume your own liability.  A sign stating such must be
> visibly displayed.  It has been tested in court and has stood up so far.
> 
> Hope this helps you in making your decisions.  These are some of the key
> issues that have been of importance in my business.
> 
> Gayle Ware
> Field of Dreams
> Eugene, OR
Altho I do not have my own boarding facility, I board my horse and my
daughter's horse at my best friend's barn (for the past 4 yrs.).  All I
can say is AMEN to Gayle's comments.  My friend has been thru the same
things...partial boarding, babysitting service for kids, dogs, late
payments.  Disaster!!!  We have a full board deal for everyone...horses
fed and stalls done a on set schedule EVERY day!  I also have the
confidence that if my horses are sick or get a boo-boo, she will take
care of it for me until I can get on the scene, and that is only if it
is something major!!!  That means alot to me, since I work full-t

Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #100

1999-07-05 Thread FofDFJORDS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 7/5/99 2:57:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< 
 We are looking for ideas and input.  We are thinking of starting up a
 boarding facility because there is a need for this in our area.  What we
 would like to hear are any ideas or opinions regarding horse boarding
 facilities.  If you board, what do you like or dislike about where you
 board?  Do you have a contract with your facility?  What does your board
 include?
  >>
I have boarded and trained outside horses for quite a few years.  I have 
learned a lot - mostly the hard way!  Here are some suggestions:

Only offer full care.  Partial care gets to be a real ROYAL PAIN!  I have 
tried to offer partial care in the past and it is more trouble than it's 
worth.  I like to have the stalls cleaned in my barn early in the morning 
everyday so that if someone 'stops by', the barn is clean and tidy.  With 
partial care, invariably someone has a reason why they couldn't come to clean 
their stall.  That means that sometime during the day, you have to interrupt 
your schedule to clean that stall.  I charged $2 extra each time I had to do 
their stall, but it was irritating.

Also with partial care, one needs a lot of extra room to store their hay and 
grain to keep it separate.  Then invariably, they run out of feed, even 
though they have been reminded.  You end up feeding yours and having to keep 
track of that.  When they finally do bring feed, it often is not of the same 
quality.  

By offering only full care, I also have control of the quality and amount 
each horse is fed and know that their nutritional needs are being properly 
met.  Also, the horses are all fed at the same time.  It is quite upsetting 
for the horses to have someone coming to feed one or two horses at different 
times.

A written contract is a MUST.  You can lay all of the requirements in front 
of the folks, up front and in black and white.  I require each horse to 
comply with our schedule for innoculations so that we don't get a barnfull of 
sick horses.  We have horses that travel to shows, poker rides, etc., where 
they are exposed to large numbers of horses so I need to make sure everyone 
has current shots.  In our area we give 4-way, rhino, Potomac Fever, and 
nasal strangles.  The horses that travel get flu/rhino every 90 days.  The 
other shots are annual.  We also worm every 2 months.  I do all of the shots 
and worming myself and charge the boarders only the cost of the drugs.  It 
saves them money and I KNOW it has been done when it should be.

Another clause in my contract states that dogs are not welcome to come poop 
in my yard instead of yours!  There is nothing more irritating to have dogs 
jumping on people's cars, scratching the paint, or fighting with each other.

Another clause states that there will be NO UNATTENDED CHILDREN.  This is not 
a day care center where Mommy can come and play whilst "Johnny" is allowed to 
wander around and get himself into trouble.

You also must be very specific about when board is due!  I took my contracts 
to a lawyer to have him look them over and make recommendations.  I have a 
clause that says boarding bills are due on the first of the month.  If it is 
not paid by then, they will be charged 2% per day on the unpaid balance.  He 
raised his eyebrows at that!  I said, "Do I make myself clear that it had 
better be paid on time?!"  He added a blank space beside that paragraph for 
them to initial in case it should ever go to court.  That way they couldn't 
say they didn't read the contract carefully before signing.

Insurance is another issue that must be considered carefully.  One can go 
insurance broke when it comes to horses!  Our state has an 'inherant risk' 
law which says that if you are on this property you are considered a 
participant and must assume your own liability.  A sign stating such must be 
visibly displayed.  It has been tested in court and has stood up so far.

Hope this helps you in making your decisions.  These are some of the key 
issues that have been of importance in my business.

Gayle Ware
Field of Dreams
Eugene, OR