German horse brands, microchipping
This message is from: Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beth, in Germany horse registration papers and inspections are conducted by the organization that deals with certain breeds in a given state. For example, in Hessen Fjords are registered with Ponies aus Hessen, which conducts inspections, brands the foals and issues the Pferdepass (which has the registration papers, pedigree, record of vaccinations and pages for vet exams). What state is your filly from? I had to have my cats microchipped, vaccinated for rabies and have a rabies titer to bring them into the EU from (originally Mexico) and then from Turkey. My Turkish rescue cat had to be quarantined in my house and not let outside for 3 months after the rabies vac and rabies titer to enter Germany. However, when I arrived at Berlin-Tegel airport, there were no customs inspectors checking paperwork and my German friend had to actually go hunt up one to look at the paperwork before we left the airport since I didn't want to have any illegal immigrant cats! Hot tip for those traveling to Germany this summer: in Berlin there are many foreigners, who mostly appear to be from the Balkans or are Gypsies, who approach someone and ask, "Do you speak English?" If you say yes they hand you a card that says they are a refugee from someplace and asking you to give them money for food. If you say no, they go away and leave you alone. So the thing to do is to say emphatically, "Nein." hen they will go away; otherwise, they hound you for money. Some restaurants and coffee shops run them off if they bother customers. Linda in Guben (I don't speak any English, my cat wrote this) _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
more microchipping
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just a note. When our first two were microchipped, the vet shaved area, got one in fine, other took THREE tries (very patient gelding - only just two yrs old, I think). When we had the next group MCed, the other vet said, Hey, I do dogs all day long, she didn't shave the area, got each one in smooth as can be. I guess practice counts. Marsha Bristow, VA Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: microchipping instructions
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:23 AM 6/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe Mike said it all, regarding checking the chip before AND after installation. Sorry someone had a mix-up..but I sure made sure our one little chip WAS the chip numbered OUR particular number. Borrowed the small animal vet's chip readerworked real slick. I would think that anyone with multiple implants would be double checking EVERY step of the way to be sure the horses all matched the chips sent out for them..I know I can't keep simple things straight anymore, let alone anything with multiple numbers in them!!! Yes getting them put in the wrong horse is exactly why I don't record the chip # for a particular horse before I send them out. I only record them when I get the Microchipping Form back that is signed by the Vet with the horses name & chip number on it. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
microchipping instructions
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe Mike said it all, regarding checking the chip before AND after installation. Sorry someone had a mix-up..but I sure made sure our one little chip WAS the chip numbered OUR particular number. Borrowed the small animal vet's chip readerworked real slick. I would think that anyone with multiple implants would be double checking EVERY step of the way to be sure the horses all matched the chips sent out for them..I know I can't keep simple things straight anymore, let alone anything with multiple numbers in them!!! Carole Sweet
Re: microchipping
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:38 AM 6/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Not quite irrefutable. > >I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. > > Ruthie, nw mt > > What kind of "Mixup" was that Ruthie? > Well been some time back-- particulars are fuzzy =)) and as I dimly recall it was eventually straightened out... I would imagine it could occur, hypothetically speaking, if a person had multiple pellets and inadvertently switched a couple? Ruthie That is exactly why you are supposed to scan the chip BEFORE you implant it & make sure the number is the same as on the package & then again AFTER you implant it to make sure it is reading correctly. Like most things if the instructions are followed correctly then everything works just fine. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: microchipping
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Not quite irrefutable. > >I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. > > Ruthie, nw mt > > What kind of "Mixup" was that Ruthie? > Well been some time back-- particulars are fuzzy =)) and as I dimly recall it was eventually straightened out... I would imagine it could occur, hypothetically speaking, if a person had multiple pellets and inadvertently switched a couple? Ruthie
Re: microchipping
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:53 AM 6/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . It is also irrefutable, > numbers are there for everyone to see, the readers are more readily available > than transits to labs, etc, etc. Just my opinion. >Carole Sweet Not quite irrefutable. I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. Ruthie, nw mt What kind of "Mixup" was that Ruthie? === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: microchipping
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . It is also irrefutable, > numbers are there for everyone to see, the readers are more readily available > than transits to labs, etc, etc. Just my opinion. >Carole Sweet Not quite irrefutable. I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. Ruthie, nw mt
microchipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, we had our yearling GELDING evaluated last year..e.g. he received his microchipthe evaluation was pretty cool, too, and we will have him evaluated again in a year or two as he matures. Microchipping is a much quicker way to id a horse than is bloodtyping, etc...you don't have to wait for the results. If anything should happen to my gelding, I would MUCH prefer being able to quickly read the chip, than have to call out the vet for bloodwork (ok, so the vet is my husband, but still have to go gather him between appts), or pull hairs to send off, etc. It is also irrefutable, numbers are there for everyone to see, the readers are more readily available than transits to labs, etc, etc. Just my opinion. Carole Sweet
Re: microchipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of my dogs, cats and even my African Grey bird are microchipped with no problems to date. So if a bird can be microchipped without any problems, I would certainly think that a horse could be as well. Rondi Tyler. Ramona, Ca.
Re: microchipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do believe Arizona had a lifetime horse ID. Like a drivers licensee. Lets all work on our state and that would eventually get Nation wide. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: microchipping
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Arthur Rivoire) > All horses in Europe (European Union countries) are > now microchipped. Also, all E.U. countries have > Passports for all horses > which are used when showing, buying & selling & > crossing borders. The > passports contain the chip numbers, identifying > marks, vaccination info > (all done by vets), & pedigrees. This makes it very > easy to identify > individual horses in case of theft, disputes, etc. My goodness, how organized! Now here is something that makes sense when it comes to identifying our horses. Would that North America could have such a system. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: microchipping
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:36 PM 12/7/00 -0400, you wrote: As to the chip migrating, I had experience with one migrating on a horse we imported in 1998. It migrated from the left side of the neck to who knows where. Never did find it. At the time I checked with the Dutch Studbook and they said it's very rare. I've never heard anything about a migrating chip causing problems. But how do you know that it actually migrated? You are assuming that because it wasn't readable that it migrated out of range. It most likely hasn't moved at all but is merely a defective chip. I have read a lot of chips of various kinds at the different Evaluations, Norwegian, Dutch & our own NFHR system. I have found a few unreadable chips at each of them. In the last one at Blue Earth we found 2 of the Dutch horses that we couldn't read. Yes we had the correct scanner & it read all of the other Dutch horses. Of all of the NFHR registered horses that have been chipped I have only heard of a problem with one of them. The Vet that did the implant refused to implant it the way the instructions said to do it. Rather than implant it in the muscle they lifted some skin and placed it under the skin. This is apparently the way it is done with dogs & cats. I don't know why it happened but the chip caused an abscess on the horses neck and the chip had to be removed (by a different vet) and then a new chip implanted according to the instructions. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: microchipping
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, >From what I have been told, mirochips that stop reading are sometimes implanted when the horse is young. As the horse puts on muscle and fat layers the chip is buried too deep for the scanners to read. Alison Bakken Alberta, Canada
Re: microchipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - We've had a lot of experience both with branded horses and microchipped. All the horses we imported from Holland up to 1997 were branded. I always liked the system because the identification was always readable. No implement needed except your eyesight. I also saw it done in Holland, and honestly, the horses didn't show any discomfort, although I suppose it must have been painful. However, the days of branding are past, and microchipping is for today. The horses we imported in 1998 and 1999 were microchipped, and this is good too as long as you have the proper reader. I have one from Holland, but I don't think my reader would read horses chipped in the U.S. or Canada, and vice versa. As to the chip migrating, I had experience with one migrating on a horse we imported in 1998. It migrated from the left side of the neck to who knows where. Never did find it. At the time I checked with the Dutch Studbook and they said it's very rare. I've never heard anything about a migrating chip causing problems. All horses in Europe (European Union countries) are now microchipped. I believe it's illegle, or at least not accepted, to brand. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that all those countries use the same system, therefore the same reader. Also, all E.U. countries have Passports for all horses which are used when showing, buying & selling & crossing borders. The passports contain the chip numbers, identifying marks, vaccination info (all done by vets), & pedigrees. This makes it very easy to identify individual horses in case of theft, disputes, etc. Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
